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Obama's Brilliant First Year?
« on: November 29, 2009, 11:55:32 AM »
Agree or disagree with his actions - you have to admit Obama did make a ton of changes in his first year. 



By January, he will have accomplished more than any first-year president since Franklin Roosevelt...

...This conventional wisdom about Obama's first year isn't just premature—it's sure to be flipped on its head by the anniversary of his inauguration on Jan. 20. If, as seems increasingly likely, Obama wins passage of a health care reform bill by that date, he will deliver his first State of the Union address having accomplished more than any other postwar American president at a comparable point in his presidency. This isn't an ideological point or one that depends on agreement with his policies. It's a neutral assessment of his emerging record—how many big, transformational things Obama is likely to have made happen in his first 12 months in office...

...We are so submerged in the details of this debate—whether the bill will include a "public option," limit coverage for abortion, or tax Botox—that it's easy to lose sight of the magnitude of the impending change. For the federal government to take responsibility for health coverage will be a transformation of the American social contract and the single biggest change in government's role since the New Deal. If Obama governs for four or eight years and accomplishes nothing else, he may be judged the most consequential domestic president since LBJ. He will also undermine the view that Ronald Reagan permanently reversed a 50-year tide of American liberalism...

...Obama's claim to a fertile first year doesn't rest on health care alone. There's mounting evidence that the $787 billion economic stimulus he signed in February—combined with the bank bailout package—prevented an economic depression. Should the stimulus have been larger? Should it have been more weighted to short-term spending, as opposed to long-term tax cuts? Would a second round be a good idea? Pundits and policymakers will argue these questions for years to come. But few mainstream economists seriously dispute that Obama's decisive action prevented a much deeper downturn and restored economic growth in the third quarter. The New York Times recently quoted Mark Zandi, who was one of candidate John McCain's economic advisers, on this point: "The stimulus is doing what it was supposed to do—it is contributing to ending the recession," he said. "In my view, without the stimulus, G.D.P would still be negative and unemployment would be firmly over 11 percent."

When it comes to foreign policy, Obama's accomplishment has been less tangible but hardly less significant: He has put America on a new footing with the rest of the world. In a series of foreign trips and speeches, which critics deride as trips and speeches, he replaced George W. Bush's unilateral, moralistic militarism with an approach that is multilateral, pragmatic, and conciliatory. Obama has already significantly reoriented policy toward Iran, China, Russia, Iraq, Israel, and the Islamic world. Next week, after a much-disparaged period of review, he will announce a new strategy in Afghanistan. No, the results do not yet merit his Nobel Peace Prize. But not since Reagan has a new president so swiftly and determinedly remodeled America's global role. 

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Re: Obama's Brilliant First Year?
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2009, 12:26:37 PM »

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Agree or disagree with his actions - you have to admit Obama did make a ton of changes in his first year. 



By January, he will have accomplished more than any first-year president since Franklin Roosevelt...

well he has to change this country according to HIS point of view as MUCH as he can before 2010...cause he's not coming back
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Re: Obama's Brilliant First Year?
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2009, 12:52:58 PM »
Yep, he sure changed things..hahahahahaha, he's almost worse than Carter. His whopping 40% approval ratings show his "change". I'm not one to say I told ya so but.......

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Re: Obama's Brilliant First Year?
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2009, 12:54:36 PM »
link to the 40% rating?

I recall he was at 48% on Gallup this week.



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Re: Obama's Brilliant First Year?
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2009, 01:44:42 PM »
Agree or disagree with his actions - you have to admit Obama did make a ton of changes in his first year. 
typical lib reasoning  ::)

lets change for the sake of change...lets not worry whether the change is good or bad but lets just change something... ::)

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Re: Obama's Brilliant First Year?
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2009, 01:49:20 PM »
I think the jury is still out on Obama. He's made some big moves, only time will tell; in some cases sooner than later.


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Re: Obama's Brilliant First Year?
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2009, 02:08:18 PM »
link to the 40% rating?

I recall he was at 48% on Gallup this week.



plus or minus 10%, no biggie.

plus for bush.

menos for Obama  ;)
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Re: Obama's Brilliant First Year?
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2009, 02:26:56 PM »
LETS GO LINE BY LINE FOR THIS NONSENSE.

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Agree or disagree with his actions - you have to admit Obama did make a ton of changes in his first year. 

YES.  WE WENT FROM ONE BIG GOVT DISGRACE TO ANOTHER.  INSTEAD OF HAVING A PRESIDENT BOUGHT OFF BY KBR AND HALIBURTON, WE WENT TO ONE OWNED BY WALL STREET AND THE UNIONS.

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By January, he will have accomplished more than any first-year president since Franklin Roosevelt...

AGREED.  HE HAS SPENT MORE IN HIS FIRST YEAR THAN ANY PRESIDENT TO DATE. 

...This conventional wisdom about Obama's first year isn't just premature—it's sure to be flipped on its head by the anniversary of his inauguration on Jan. 20. If, as seems increasingly likely, Obama wins passage of a health care reform bill by that date, he will deliver his first State of the Union address having accomplished more than any other postwar American president at a comparable point in his presidency. This isn't an ideological point or one that depends on agreement with his policies. It's a neutral assessment of his emerging record—how many big, transformational things Obama is likely to have made happen in his first 12 months in office...

HE ALREADY HAS THE RECORD OF SPENDING MORE THAN ANY PREVIOUS PRESIDENT IN HISTORY.   HOWEVER, HEALTH CARE REFORM IS STUCK IN THE MUDD AS 4 SENATORS ARE ALREADY SAYING NO TO ANY PUBLIC OPTION WHATSOEVER.  HE MAY GET SOMETHING, BUT IT WILL STINK ROPYALLY, AS ALL OF THE PROPOSALS SO FAR ARE NOTHING MORE THAN JOB KILLING TAX BILLS.
 

...We are so submerged in the details of this debate—whether the bill will include a "public option," limit coverage for abortion, or tax Botox—that it's easy to lose sight of the magnitude of the impending change. For the federal government to take responsibility for health coverage will be a transformation of the American social contract and the single biggest change in government's role since the New Deal. If Obama governs for four or eight years and accomplishes nothing else, he may be judged the most consequential domestic president since LBJ. He will also undermine the view that Ronald Reagan permanently reversed a 50-year tide of American liberalism...

AND THAT IS A GOOD THING?  MEDICARE IS BROKE ALREADY AND HAS UNFUNDED LIABILITIES OF 34 TRILLION DOLLARS WITH NO WAY TO PAY FOR IT.  IF OBAMA WANTS TO GO DOWN IN HISTORY AS BAD AS LBJ, THATS FREAKING PATHETIC AND SAD SINCE HIS LEGACY WILL BE ONE OF BANKRUPTING THE COUNTRY.  ALSO, THE FED GOV SCREWED UP IRAQ AND KATRINA AND THE SWINE FLUE VACCINE, YET DOES ANY RATIONAL THINKING PERSON THIS WILL END ANY DIFFERENT?

...Obama's claim to a fertile first year doesn't rest on health care alone. There's mounting evidence that the $787 billion economic stimulus he signed in February—combined with the bank bailout package—prevented an economic depression. Should the stimulus have been larger? Should it have been more weighted to short-term spending, as opposed to long-term tax cuts? Would a second round be a good idea? Pundits and policymakers will argue these questions for years to come. But few mainstream economists seriously dispute that Obama's decisive action prevented a much deeper downturn and restored economic growth in the third quarter. The New York Times recently quoted Mark Zandi, who was one of candidate John McCain's economic advisers, on this point: "The stimulus is doing what it was supposed to do—it is contributing to ending the recession," he said. "In my view, without the stimulus, G.D.P would still be negative and unemployment would be firmly over 11 percent."

WROTE THIS GARBAGE?  UE IS IS AT 17.5% AS IT IS, AND RISING WITH NO END IN SIGHT.  BY THE WAY, THIS AUTHOR IS TOO STUPID TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE POLICY HE IS CREDITING IS TARP UNDER BUSH, NOT OBAMA.  THIS LIBERAL IDIOT ALSO OBVISIOULSY DOES NOT WATCH OR READ THE NEWS IN TERMS OF THE VALUE OF THE DOLLAR AND PANIC TO GOLD AS THE SO CALLED STIM BILL AND OTHER SPENDING IS CAUSING WORLDWIDE FEARS AS TO WHERE THIS IS ALL HEADING.  THE ONLY THING OBAMA DID IS DELAY THE INEVITABLE A LITTLE WHILE LONGER.  ANYONE WITH A CLUE UNDERSTANDS THAT.  V\

When it comes to foreign policy, Obama's accomplishment has been less tangible but hardly less significant: He has put America on a new footing with the rest of the world. In a series of foreign trips and speeches, which critics deride as trips and speeches, he replaced George W. Bush's unilateral, moralistic militarism with an approach that is multilateral, pragmatic, and conciliatory. Obama has already significantly reoriented policy toward Iran, China, Russia, Iraq, Israel, and the Islamic world. Next week, after a much-disparaged period of review, he will announce a new strategy in Afghanistan. No, the results do not yet merit his Nobel Peace Prize. But not since Reagan has a new president so swiftly and determinedly remodeled America's global role. 

HYSTERICAL.  IRAN ANNOUNCED TODAY IT IS STARTING 10 NEW NUKE PLANTS.  WE ARE INCREASING OUR COMMITTMENT IN AFGHANISTAN WITH NO END IN SIGHT.  HIS TRIP TO ASIA WAS UNIVERSALLY REGARDED AS A MAJOR FAILURE AND AN EMBARASSMENT.  RUSSIA OIS GETTING EVERYTHING IT WANTS FROM US IN THE NUKE TREATY SITUATION WHILE NOT BACKING US ON IRAN.  ISRAEL AND THE PALS ARE STILL AT THE SAME SPOT.  I DO AGREE WITH THIS CLOWN IN THAT OBAMA REMODELED OUR FOREIGN POLICY.  IT IS NOW GIVE AWAY THE STORE, BOW TO EVERYONE YOU CAN FIND, AND APOLOGIZE TO ANYONE WHO HAS A PERCEIVED GRIEVANCE AGAINST THE USA.   

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Re: Obama's Brilliant First Year?
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2009, 12:14:11 PM »
link to the 40% rating?

I recall he was at 48% on Gallup this week.




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Re: Obama's Brilliant First Year?
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2009, 12:29:37 PM »
Change is what the majority wanted and it's what we have got.  All the sourpuss Repubs want to do is discredit as much as possible because really they have no platform, no base, no majority at all.  They are a minority view and they can't handle that America has swept them aside like yesterdays trash.  Heck their biggest thing is a washed up quitter from Alaska.  No wonder they spam this board with their drivel.
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Re: Obama's Brilliant First Year?
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2009, 05:14:23 PM »
This administration and congress is an economic disaster.
The pendulum swung too far left with Pelosi and the liberal congress.

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Re: Obama's Brilliant First Year?
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2009, 07:33:58 PM »
Change for the sake of change is idiotic.

Going from the status quo to total and unmitigated disaster is a failure.

Be careful what you wish for America.

I would take 4 more years of Bush right now in a nano second.

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Re: Obama's Brilliant First Year?
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2009, 07:51:25 PM »
^ To him you listen.
Jan. Jobs: 36,000!!

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Re: Obama's Brilliant First Year?
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2010, 11:09:52 AM »
Agree or disagree with his actions - you have to admit Obama did make a ton of changes in his first year. 



By January, he will have accomplished more than any first-year president since Franklin Roosevelt...

...This conventional wisdom about Obama's first year isn't just premature—it's sure to be flipped on its head by the anniversary of his inauguration on Jan. 20. If, as seems increasingly likely, Obama wins passage of a health care reform bill by that date, he will deliver his first State of the Union address having accomplished more than any other postwar American president at a comparable point in his presidency. This isn't an ideological point or one that depends on agreement with his policies. It's a neutral assessment of his emerging record—how many big, transformational things Obama is likely to have made happen in his first 12 months in office...

...We are so submerged in the details of this debate—whether the bill will include a "public option," limit coverage for abortion, or tax Botox—that it's easy to lose sight of the magnitude of the impending change. For the federal government to take responsibility for health coverage will be a transformation of the American social contract and the single biggest change in government's role since the New Deal. If Obama governs for four or eight years and accomplishes nothing else, he may be judged the most consequential domestic president since LBJ. He will also undermine the view that Ronald Reagan permanently reversed a 50-year tide of American liberalism...

...Obama's claim to a fertile first year doesn't rest on health care alone. There's mounting evidence that the $787 billion economic stimulus he signed in February—combined with the bank bailout package—prevented an economic depression. Should the stimulus have been larger? Should it have been more weighted to short-term spending, as opposed to long-term tax cuts? Would a second round be a good idea? Pundits and policymakers will argue these questions for years to come. But few mainstream economists seriously dispute that Obama's decisive action prevented a much deeper downturn and restored economic growth in the third quarter. The New York Times recently quoted Mark Zandi, who was one of candidate John McCain's economic advisers, on this point: "The stimulus is doing what it was supposed to do—it is contributing to ending the recession," he said. "In my view, without the stimulus, G.D.P would still be negative and unemployment would be firmly over 11 percent."

When it comes to foreign policy, Obama's accomplishment has been less tangible but hardly less significant: He has put America on a new footing with the rest of the world. In a series of foreign trips and speeches, which critics deride as trips and speeches, he replaced George W. Bush's unilateral, moralistic militarism with an approach that is multilateral, pragmatic, and conciliatory. Obama has already significantly reoriented policy toward Iran, China, Russia, Iraq, Israel, and the Islamic world. Next week, after a much-disparaged period of review, he will announce a new strategy in Afghanistan. No, the results do not yet merit his Nobel Peace Prize. But not since Reagan has a new president so swiftly and determinedly remodeled America's global role. 



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