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Analysis: Obama takes possession of economy
« on: July 15, 2009, 01:14:23 AM »
Analysis: Obama takes possession of economy
By Jim Kuhnhenn, Associated Press Writer – 12 mins ago

WASHINGTON – With four simple words — "Give it to me!" — President Barack Obama took possession of the economy.

For months, the White House and Obama's economic team have laid the economic crisis at the feet of President George W. Bush. But there comes a point in a presidency when inheritance becomes ownership. Obama made that pivot Tuesday in Michigan, the state suffering the worst unemployment in the nation.

"I love these folks who helped get us in this mess and then suddenly say, 'Well, this is Obama's economy,'" the president said in a pointed deviation from his prepared text. "That's fine. Give it to me!"

It was a defiant moment, reminiscent of Bush's own "Bring 'em on!" taunt in 2003 to militants in Iraq.

Like Bush's brash challenge, Obama's could haunt him, too. It's a calculated risk that confronts his critics head-on and casts him as an activist, on-the-job president.

"My job is to solve problems, not to stand on the sidelines and harp and gripe," he said Tuesday, his sleeves rolled up, barely disguising his targets as congressional Republicans.

Still, most economists and Obama's own advisers foresee a slow economic recovery. The president himself conceded Tuesday that unemployment, already at a 26-year high, will likely "tick up for several months." Republicans see the economy as Obama's Achilles' heel come next year's elections, and they have found a political vulnerability in the continued rise in unemployment despite a $787 billion economic stimulus that Obama pushed through Congress in February.

In choosing Michigan to attach his name to the economy, Obama picked a state whose 14.1 percent unemployment rate could linger as evidence of policy failure. As home to the U.S. auto industry, it could also stand as a symbol of one of his first economic successes. Both General Motors and Chrysler have emerged in surprisingly swift fashion from bankruptcy protection proceedings that were imposed by the Obama administration.

"Remember, folks said there was no way they could do it?" Obama told his audience in hard-hit Warren, Mich. "They've gotten it done already, in record time, far faster than anybody thought possible."

After a week spent overseas, the feisty, confrontational approach aims to regain the agenda from his critics. In one bold step this week, the Obama administration singled out Sen. Jon Kyl, a member of the Senate Republican leadership, for calling for an end to economic stimulus spending. Using Obama's Cabinet members as muscle, the White House on Tuesday made public letters from four department secretaries listing transportation, housing, Indian education and other projects in Kyl's home state that they said would be eliminated if the senator had his way. The letter was addressed to Arizona's Republican governor, Jan Brewer.

At the same time, Obama is appealing for patience. In his weekly radio and Internet address Saturday and in a newspaper opinion piece, Obama argued that the stimulus program was designed as a two-year plan and that it had already halted the economic free fall. It hasn't helped Obama, however, that the jobless rate now stands at 9.5 percent, even though his economic team initially predicted that the stimulus would prevent unemployment from going higher than 8 percent.

Obama and his advisers say the recession turned out to be worse than anticipated when they made that forecast in January. Still, 2 million jobs have been lost since Congress passed the stimulus package.

"I want the president's economic stimulus to work, but guess what? It's not happening right now," Rep. Candice Miller, R-Mich., said Tuesday, voicing a common GOP refrain. "I don't even think we have Wendy's jobs anymore. Where's the beef? Where's the jobs?"

Obama's unflinching embrace of his economic policies means he now is responsible for their consequences. If the free fall is now in check, as he claims, then the economy can no longer be Bush's legacy alone.

What's more, even amid indicators that show the economic plunge is slowing, unemployment in recent recessions has been slow to recover as quickly as the rest of the economy. And jobs are the clearest yardstick by which the public measures success. For Obama and his fellow Democrats, the danger lies in unemployment rates that remain high in time for next year's congressional elections, or in a slow recovery that peters out and leads back into a recession.

Obama has already taken ownership of the nation's foreign policy. In March, he announced a new approach in Afghanistan that included sending an additional 17,000 combat troops. Marines have just kicked off an offensive in Taliban strongholds in the south of the country. And two weeks ago, American troops in Iraq handed over security urban areas to Iraqi security forces, the first step toward meeting Obama's pledge to end an unpopular war.

Now, just days shy of the symbolic six-month anniversary of his presidency, Obama has laid claim to the full measure of the job. When it comes to the economy, no one — certainly not his Republican critics — is going to keep him from taking it.

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EDITOR'S NOTE — Jim Kuhnhenn covers economics and politics for The Associated Press.




Guess What?  Goldmann Sachs just posted a hefty profit. Seems they've repaid all the stimulus money they got, and are back in the black.  And they're not the only ones. Others are starting to rebound and show profits as well

I don't think 33386 is gonna like this one bit, ...especially now that Obama owns the economy.  :P
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Re: Analysis: Obama takes possession of economy
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2009, 04:07:51 AM »
Yeah..ok Jag...things are booming ahhahahaahhahaahhahaahha hahahhahahahahahhahahaha hahahaahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahhaha ::)
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Re: Analysis: Obama takes possession of economy
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2009, 04:28:58 AM »
Yeah..ok Jag...things are booming ahhahahaahhahaahhahaahha hahahhahahahahahhahahaha hahahaahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahhaha ::)

Jag:  I dont like it because this ship is sinking extremely fast.  YesObama inhereited a mess, but there is simply no excuse for the reckless actions and course he is pursuing. 

Also, GMAFB about Goldman Sachs.  no wonder they are making money, the govt snuffed out all their competition and they funded his campaign. 


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Re: Analysis: Obama takes possession of economy
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2009, 06:30:55 AM »
Man, at least Chris Dodd isn't president, boy, it would be undeniably WW18 right now!

Count your blessing!

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Re: Analysis: Obama takes possession of economy
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2009, 07:07:19 AM »
Yeah..ok Jag...things are booming ahhahahaahhahaahhahaahha hahahhahahahahahhahahaha hahahaahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahhaha ::)

HH6, you're a very smart guy.

Can you refute jag's point:


Guess What?  Goldmann Sachs just posted a hefty profit. Seems they've repaid all the stimulus money they got, and are back in the black.  And they're not the only ones. Others are starting to rebound and show profits as well

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Re: Analysis: Obama takes possession of economy
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2009, 07:10:59 AM »
HH6, you're a very smart guy.

Can you refute jag's point:


Guess What?  Goldmann Sachs just posted a hefty profit. Seems they've repaid all the stimulus money they got, and are back in the black.  And they're not the only ones. Others are starting to rebound and show profits as well

240 - you are getting worse by the day. 

Go read how GS made a profit.  GS and Obama are tied at the hip and behind the cap & trade scam. 

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Re: Analysis: Obama takes possession of economy
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2009, 07:16:39 AM »
240 - you are getting worse by the day. 

Go read how GS made a profit.  GS and Obama are tied at the hip and behind the cap & trade scam. 

Interesting, I did not know this.

jag, how do you respond to this?

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Re: Analysis: Obama takes possession of economy
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2009, 07:19:34 AM »
Interesting, I did not know this.

jag, how do you respond to this?

240 - go look at the O-Reilly vid I posted as well as the video I posted with Schiff.  He discussed the GS profits. 

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Re: Analysis: Obama takes possession of economy
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2009, 07:35:01 AM »
240 - go look at the O-Reilly vid I posted as well as the video I posted with Schiff.  He discussed the GS profits. 

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WSJ Trashes Goldman: Subsidized "Goldie Mac" Making Billions At Taxpayer Expense
John Carney|Jul. 15, 2009, 9:08 AM|5
PrintTags: Wall Street, Goldman Sachs, Bonus, The Rich, Earnings, Mortgages, Mergers And Acquisitions, Finance, Economy, Bank of America, Banks, Financial Crisis, Bailout


The Wall Street Journal's editorial page this morning reminds us that Goldman Sachs is still operating under an implicit government guarantee that puts taxpayers on the line for any losses while its partners enrich themselves from profits.

It's ugly.

From the WSJ:

Of course, if the feds do let CIT fail, this will only confirm that the only certain survivors in the current market are banks big enough that the government figures it must bail them out. Just ask the many small banks that have been rolled up by the FDIC at a rate of two a week since the beginning of the year, with eight so far in July alone. That can only strengthen the likes of Goldman, which apparently needs no help printing money anyway.

Goldman's traders profited in the second quarter from taking advantage of spreads left wide by the disappearance of some competitors (Lehman, Bear Stearns) and the risk aversion of others (Morgan Stanley). Meantime, Goldman's own credit spreads over Treasurys have narrowed as the market has priced in the likelihood that the government stands behind the risks it is taking in its proprietary trading books.

Goldman will surely deny that its risk-taking is subsidized by the taxpayer -- but then so did Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, right up to the bitter end. An implicit government guarantee is only free until it's not, and when the bill comes due it tends to be huge. So for the moment, Goldman Sachs -- or should we say Goldie Mac? -- enjoys the best of both worlds: outsize profits for its traders and shareholders and a taxpayer backstop should anything go wrong.

What's worse, letting CIT fail might not help this situation at all. Rather than clearing the way for market discipline to reassert itself, CIT's failure might only reify the policy of Too Big To Fail.

Financial firms that are deemed too small to be rescued will find credit hard to come by and expensive, which will incent them to grow or sell themselves to a systemically important firm. In short, we're increasing the concentration of financial power and hence systemic risk in the largest Wall Street firms that led us into this mess.

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Re: Analysis: Obama takes possession of economy
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2009, 07:42:26 AM »
HH6, you're a very smart guy.

Can you refute jag's point:


Guess What?  Goldmann Sachs just posted a hefty profit. Seems they've repaid all the stimulus money they got, and are back in the black.  And they're not the only ones. Others are starting to rebound and show profits as well

GS received no stimulus money. They received TARP money that helped them shore up their balance sheets and made them look healthier than they were. This is what many banks did.

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Re: Analysis: Obama takes possession of economy
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2009, 07:44:24 AM »
GS received no stimulus money. They received TARP money that helped them shore up their balance sheets and made them look healthier than they were. This is what many banks did.

What month/year did Obama introduce TARP?

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Re: Analysis: Obama takes possession of economy
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2009, 07:50:51 AM »
What month/year did Obama introduce TARP?

He flew in to Washington DC to support this thing.  Dont play dumb 240.  He was as behind this thing as was McCain and you know it. 

Gethner was Paulsons' right hand man was the 4th one in the meeting with Bush, Bernake and Paulson.

Give me a break 240, acting this dumb is a new low.   

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Re: Analysis: Obama takes possession of economy
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2009, 07:52:02 AM »
What month/year did Obama introduce TARP?

When did I ever say Obama authored/introduced TARP? Why must you keep running interference?

He didn't it was the Treasuries deal. I never said Obama introduced or what not, he certainly backed it, but did not sign it.

GS received no Stimulus money, they received TARP money. If you can prove that they recieved a portion of the of the 5-10% that has been released so far, please post a link.

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Re: Analysis: Obama takes possession of economy
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2009, 07:52:23 AM »
What month/year did Obama introduce TARP?

Well lets see congress passed TARP did it not? Was Obama in congress at the time?
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Re: Analysis: Obama takes possession of economy
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2009, 08:27:35 AM »
haha i agree the whole situation is screwed.

But it is promising to see some of the firms repaying $ they received, either on bush's or obama's watch.