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ObamaFail: The healthcare news conference
« on: July 23, 2009, 06:48:47 AM »
During his news conference Wednesday night, Barack Obama failed to make a compelling case for the implementation of his much-touted government takeover of healthcare.  Several reasons are readily apparent:

1. He refused to deal with the issue of denial of care, or rationing, athough he was asked about the matter several times by at least 2 different reporters.

As we have stated repeatedly right here in this column, the ONLY way a generalized government takeover of healthcare can control the inflationary costs of medical coverage is to implement a system of limitations on what, and more importantly, who gets covered.  The elderly and severely chronically ill will bear most of the brunt.  My previous columns on this matter can be found here, here, and here.

2. Obama set up an entirely false premise that states Americans have only 2 choices--do nothing at all, or buy into his healthcare plan.

No one, and I repeat, NO ONE has ever advocated doing nothing.  I sure haven't.  In fact, most of the forward-looking, innovative programs for improving America's healthcare system have come from free-market conservatives.  We recognize that improvements need to be made, and we have provided concrete solutions.  Some of these solutions are noted at the end of my article entitled, 'Government Takeover of Healthcare Won't Solve Problem.'

Obama would love for Americans to think that the only 2 choices we have are his, and doing nothing.  This sets up a scare-tactic scenario, similar to the one he used to falsely persuade the country into following his highly flawed 24 trillion dollar bailout of Wall Street and the mortgage giants.

The 'do it my way or we will fall off the precipice' chicken-little ultimatum is not working anymore, simply because once you fool the American people with false claims of disaster around every corner, they yawn and laugh at you when you attempt the same thing again.

3. Blaming George Bush for everything has long since gotten old.  It has become putrid rotten, and its stench emanates from every pore of Obama's body.  This has definitely become a joke, and Obama is the butt-end of it.

In the news conference he continued to persistently blame 'the previous Administration' for all of his woes.  That may still work with the kool-aid drinkers who blindly follow him like a Messiah, but to the rest of the country it is clear that this man has trouble accepting responsibility for any of his actions.

When Obama took office we had a deficit of a little less than 2 trillion.  Within 6 months, Obama has tripled it.  He also quadrupled the national debt.  George W. Bush did not do these things.  This is entirely Obama's doing, and it is time he took responsibility for his reckless actions.

4. The true cost of this healthcare proposal was ignored and glazed over by Obama's insistence that it can be paid for by savings in other areas alone and that it won't increase the size of the deficit.  The CBO and other sources have already totally debunked that notion, estimating the costs of the plan to be roughly 9 trillion dollars over the next several years.  In addition, heavy tax increases will be necessary to fund it.  Some of this WILL come from the middle class, no matter what Obama says.  We must remember he has already broken his promises before that there be 'no tax increases for the middle class.'

And we must remember he wishes to cut 500 billion from Medicare--taking care from the elderly--to pay for this monstrosity.

5. Obama obviously still has an immature, thin skin for someone in public office.  He simply can't get over the fact that Republicans are telling the truth about this proposed disaster for our nation and its finances, and he seems to think S.C. Senator Jim DeMint wants the healthcare proposal to fail 'just so Obama can meet his Waterloo.'

What a joke.  That response is not one of an adult but of an adolescent who never grew up.  Obama claims 'this is not about me,' yet when anyone criticizes it, it suddenly becomes 'all about him.'

The Senator was clearly referring to the fact that Obama's proposal is very unpopular in the country, even among his fellow Democrats, thus leading one to the conclusion that this ill-conceived plan WILL be his Waterloo unless he backs off.  The Obama Presidency may well be destroyed by this one issue alone.  Obama's failure to grasp this simple fact causes one pause to reflect on his reasoning ability under pressure.  The problem isn't Jim DeMint.  It's the President's failure to grasp basic political wisdom.

6. Obama seemed mad, agitated, distracted.  Gone was the relaxed give-and-take to which we have become accustomed to seeing in his interactions with reporters.  It was only at the end of the news conference that smiles and laughter returned when Obama joked about what would happen if he attempted to break into a window at the White House.

With that one exception, the press conference appeared to be that of a dictatorial tyrant demanding that an unpopular piece of legislation be approved by the end of this year, or else.

And he would not even commit himself to urge Congress to place itself on whatever 'public' option for healthcare they pass for the unwashed, unsophisticated masses who are not good enough for the medical plan the President and Congress get.

The best thing Congress can do, if it knows what's good for it, is to table the entire thing and get the heck out of town on their summer recess.  This little monster of a bill has ruffled the feathers of so many citizens throughout the heartland that if Congress doesn't listen, there will be dire consequences for their careers and reputations.

And rightly so.

http://www.examiner.com/x-3704-Columbia-Conservative-Examiner~y2009m7d23-ObamaFail-The-healthcare-news-conference

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Re: ObamaFail: The healthcare news conference
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2009, 06:49:31 AM »
Look Here to See What’s in the Health Care Bill: CHILLING!
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Take a look at what actually is in the Health Care bill. Obama makes disingenuous comments like "You'll still keep your doctor" or "You'll keep your existing health care." He is either lying to us or he has no idea what is in it. Take a peek at the full report, or look at some of the highlights here:
 
Pg 22 of the HC Bill mandates the Government will audit books of all employers that self insure. Can you imagine what that will do to small businesses? Every one will abandon “self insurance” and go on Government insurance. So when Obama says that there will still be private health care, it’s simply a lie: this mandate will force employers to abandon their private plans.
 
Pg 30 Sec 123 of HC bill – a Government committee (good luck with that!) will decide what treatments/benefits a person may receive.
 
Pg 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill - YOUR HEALTHCARE WILL BE RATIONED! (We all knew this, because health care is rationed in Canada and Britain, but Obama kept saying it would not be).
 
Pg 42 of HC Bill – The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC Benefits for you. You will have no choice!
 
PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill - HC will be provided to ALL non US citizens, illegal or otherwise.
 
Pg 58 HC Bill – Government will have real-time access to individual’s finances and a National ID Healthcard will be issued!
 
Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Government will have direct access to your bank accts for election funds transfer
 
PG 65 Sec 164 is a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their families in Unions & community organizations (read: ACORN).
 
Pg 72 Lines 8-14 Government will create an HC Exchange to bring private HC plans under Government control.
 
PG 84 Sec 203 HC bill - Government mandates ALL benefit packages for private HC plans in the Exchange.
 
PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specifics of Benefit Levels for Plans = The Government will ration your Healthcare!
 
PG 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill - Government mandates linguistic appropriate services. Example - Translation for illegal aliens.
 
Pg 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18 The Government will use groups, i.e. ACORN & Americorps, to sign up individuals for Government HC plan.
 
PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specifics of Benefit Levels for Plans. AARP members - your Health care WILL be rationed.
 
-PG 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill - Medicaid Eligible Individuals will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid. No choice.
 
pg 124 lines 24-25 HC No company can sue Government on price fixing. No "judicial review" against Government Monopoly.
 
pg 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill - Doctors/ AMA - The Government will tell YOU what you can earn.
 
Pg 145 Line 15-17 An Employer MUST auto enroll employees into public option plan. NO CHOICE.
 
Pg 126 Lines 22-25 Employers MUST pay for HC for part time employees AND their families.
 
Pg 149 Lines 16-24 ANY Employer with payroll $400k & above who does not provide public option pays 8% tax on all payroll.
 
pg 150 Lines 9-13 Businesses with payroll between $251k & $400k who don’t provide public option pay 2-6% tax on all payroll.
 
Pg 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesn’t have acceptable HC according to Government will be taxed 2.5% of income.
 
Pg 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes. (Americans will pay.)
 
Pg 195 HC Bill -officers & employees of HC Admin (the GOVERNMENT) will have access to ALL Americans’ finances and personal records.
 
PG 203 Line 14-15 HC - "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax" Yes, it says that.
 
Pg 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill Government will reduce physician services for Medicaid. Seniors, low income, poor affected.
 
Pg 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill – Doctors – doesn’t matter what specialty – will all be paid the same.
 
PG 253 Line 10-18 Government sets value of Doctor’s time, professional judgment, etc. Literally, value of humans.
 
PG 265 Sec 1131Government mandates & controls productivity for private HC industries.
 
PG 268 Sec 1141 Federal Government regulates rental & purchase of power driven wheelchairs.
 
PG 272 SEC. 1145. TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS - Cancer patients - welcome to rationing!
 
Page 280 Sec 1151 The Government will penalize hospitals for what Government deems preventable readmissions.
 
Pg 298 Lines 9-11 Doctors who treat a patient during initial admission that results in a readmission - Government will penalize you.
 
Pg 317 L 13-20 OMG!! PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Government tells Doctors what/how much they can own.
 
Pg 317-318 lines 21-25,1-3 PROHIBITION on expansion - Government will mandate hospitals cannot expand.
 
pg 321 2-13 Hospitals have opportunity to apply for exception BUT community input required. Can u say ACORN?!
 
Pg335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339 - Government mandates establishment of outcome-based measures which of course forces health care rationing.
 
Pg 341 Lines 3-9 Government has authority to disqualify Medicare Adv Plans, HMOs, etc., forcing people into Government plan.
 
Pg 354 Sec 1177 - Government will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs people!
 
Pg 379 Sec 1191 Government creates more bureaucracy - Telehealth Advisory Committee. HC by phone.
 
PG 425 Lines 4-12 Government mandates Advance Care Planning Consultations. Think Senior Citizens end of life prodding.
 
Pg 425 Lines 17-19 Government will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney. Mandatory!
 
PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Government provides approved list of end of life resources, guiding you in how to die.
 
PG 427 Lines 15-24 Government mandates program for orders for end of life. The Government has a say in how your life ends.
 
Pg 429 Lines 1-9 An "advanced care planning consultant" will be used frequently as patients’ health deteriorates.
 
PG 429 Lines 10-12 "advanced care consultation" may include an ORDER for end of life plans. AN ORDER from the Government to end a life!
 
Pg 429 Lines 13-25 - The Government will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order.
 
PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Government will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life.
 
Pg 469 - Community Based Home Medical Services/Non profit orgs. (ACORN Medical Services here?)
 
Page 472 Lines 14-17 PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATION. 1 monthly payment to a community-based organization. (Like ACORN?)
 
PG 489 Sec 1308 The Government will cover Marriage & Family therapy. Which means they will insert Government into our marriages.
 
Pg 494-498 Government will cover Mental Health Services including defining, creating, rationing those services. You’d better speak up now before you are on the "advanced care consultation" list.
 
Recently I had a talk with a colleague (one on my side of the aisle) about the increasingly dire threat posed to this country by the unholy trinity of Obama/Reid-Pelosi/ and the media. The upshot of this person's question to me was, "What can you say that will give me some hope? Some optimism? Is there a way we can reach the kids, the students, and the younger people?"
 
We aren't quite "done" yet, but the old thermometer is edging up by the day, and I don't mean global warming. Cap and Trade (i.e., "cap and tax") has passed the House and our hopes of avoiding federal enviro-nazis swooping into our homes and clamping down "do not sell" restrictions on our houses until we comply with their inane regulations hangs on the votes of a few left-wing Democrat senators who in the past have shown no inclination to challenge Harry Reid. (You see, the Democrat Party has this habit of actually punishing so-called "mavericks" who criticize Dem leadership.) Real-life Gong-Show refugees such as Al Franken now will vote on your right to drive what you want and eat what you want. But that's only the tip of the iceberg.
 
There is new twitter about the C02 pollution of computers. Once the computer becomes the next SUV, what sites, exactly, do you think will be deemed the most "polluting?" You got it: Drudge, FreeRepublic; Redstate; and a host of conservative sites. Guess which ones will be ok? Huffington Post, MSNBC, and Daily Kos.
 
But it gets worse: the National Socialist (that would be Nazi, if you were in Germany) Health Care system that is now about to come up for a vote will absolutely eliminate private health care options. Do not kid yourself: They are going to say that they aren't going to interfere with your right to go to your "own doctor" or have your own "private health insurance." But there won't be non-government doctors or private health insurance if the government mandates them out of existence.
 
Do not forget that this was a major goal of Hillarycare just 15 years ago. Once people found out, it caused a firestorm – but times have changed. The media was atrocious then, but it's a 100 percent propaganda machine for the Left today. A few holdouts, such as Fox and Rush, remind me of the brave Dutch shouting at the storm troopers before they were gunned down. If Health Care or Cap and Tax fail, the media will see it as the failure of their guy, and in their view, Obama must not be allowed to fail.
 
Even still, I hear people who want to "get past all this partisanship." Sorry, but GROW UP.
 
Our system from the beginning has pitted one group against another out of fear of the very giant government that is metastasizing before our eyes. James Madison didn't like "parties" or "factions," but he finally admitted that they were absolutely necessary to fragment power. In Washington today, however, we nearly have one political party: the Democrats, who march in lock step with Obama while the cowardly Republicans who, aside from a few heroes (John Kyl, Jeff Sessions, Jim DeMint come to mind in the Senate, and most of those remaining in the House), are merely "me-too Democrats."
 
For our system to work there has to be a clear choice, not a mushy middle, because the mushy middle always, always, always gravitates left. There is a "presumption of power" on the left –conservatives, by nature, do not like government, don't trust it, and do not want to use it to advance their ends, which they see as advanced through liberty, individual achievement, and entrepreneurship.
 
If Republicans do not unite 100 percent –and soon – behind the idea that the unholy trinity must be stopped dead or we will not have the American Republic that we have all known all our lives, it may soon be too late. Maybe it's time all of you got just a little mad.
 
FamilySecurityMatters.or g Contributing Editor Larry Schweikart is the author o  48 Liberal Lies About American History: (That You Probably Learned in School) and A Patriot’s History of the United States: From Columbus’s Great Discovery to the War on Terror.   He blogs at patriotshistoryusa.blogs pot.com.
 

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Re: ObamaFail: The healthcare news conference
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2009, 07:05:08 AM »
The federal government thinks that the general population is so stupid that they will only pay attention to what the POTUS says and not actually take a look at the bill. Then when they think that we the people are getting wind of the bullshit they are trying to sell, they try to push it through congress ASAP.

Looks like it didn't work this time, we the people are paying attention, we the people have investigated the health care plan as well as cap and trade and see them what they are for.

And finally we the people are letting out representative know that this bullshit will not stand.
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Re: ObamaFail: The healthcare news conference
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2009, 07:06:55 AM »
The federal government thinks that the general population is so stupid that they will only pay attention to what the POTUS says and not actually take a look at the bill. Then when they think that we the people are getting wind of the bullshit they are trying to sell, they try to push it through congress ASAP.

Looks like it didn't work this time, we the people are paying attention, we the people have investigated the health care plan as well as cap and trade and see them what they are for.

And finally we the people are letting out representative know that this bullshit will not stand.

Notice how the Obamabots never wantt o discuss details? 

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Re: ObamaFail: The healthcare news conference
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2009, 07:09:36 AM »
Notice how the Obamabots never wantt o discuss details? 

There will always be a segment of the population who is vigilant and watches the what the government is up to, if for no other reason than we don't trust them. That segment will spread the word and others will wake up and pay atttention.
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Re: ObamaFail: The healthcare news conference
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2009, 08:58:17 AM »
CRICKETS MOTHERFUCKING CHIRPING

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Re: ObamaFail: The healthcare news conference
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2009, 09:04:08 AM »
CRICKETS MOTHERFUCKING CHIRPING

Like I said, the Obamabots never discuss details. 



 

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Re: ObamaFail: The healthcare news conference
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2009, 10:32:30 AM »
U guys all posted facts...libs don't deal in facts....case in point that wackjob slickglide or whatever his name is. TA tries to produce facts but since he has no idea what he's posting, he can't defend them unless he uses more cut and paste BS. Hugo and several others, straw etc try and debate...but I don' think anybody can defend this garbage.
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Re: ObamaFail: The healthcare news conference
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2009, 10:42:38 AM »
I watched a portion of the press conference and was not impressed.  Without his teleprompter helping him make a speech, he's really pretty ordinary IMO. 

I was actually thinking while listening to him yesterday that I miss Bush.   :o :-\

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Re: ObamaFail: The healthcare news conference
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2009, 10:51:58 AM »
James and 333386 (you ever think of changing your screen name bro?), great posts.  Those need to be circulated in emails.
The more details that start to come out, the worse this sounds...just like the stimulus.  Obama and the dems that wrote the healthcare bill are trying to get this passed ASAP so people won't analyze the details.  Screw that.

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Re: ObamaFail: The healthcare news conference
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2009, 10:53:46 AM »
Yes 3 change ur damm name....
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Re: ObamaFail: The healthcare news conference
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2009, 10:54:03 AM »
James and 333386 (you ever think of changing your screen name bro?), great posts.  Those need to be circulated in emails.
The more details that start to come out, the worse this sounds...just like the stimulus.  Obama and the dems that wrote the healthcare bill are trying to get this passed ASAP so people won't analyze the details.  Screw that.

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