whats Long R3 IGF-1??

[SaltShaker]

what is it? anyone use it?would it benefit a natty?dosage?

[makaveli25]

I wouldn't mess with it the chance of you getting the real stuff is problalby really rare.

[dexterJ]

dont buy it..better get hgh ..all igf is scamm....talk with some pros and ask!

[local hero]

totaly agree with dex..... igf is complete shite, weve all tried it, total waste of money.... just spend your extra money on gh everytime, its proven and works wonders..

[SaltShaker]

totaly agree with dex..... igf is complete shite, weve all tried it, total waste of money.... just spend your extra money on gh everytime, its proven and works wonders..

i have no source of gh, feel free to PM...

but still, is "Long R3" the same as regular IGF-1?

[local hero]

real igf-1 is too unstable, even if u ever came across some( which u wont ) even shaking the bottle would fuck it up, so all the posting and changing hands would totaly destroy whatever it was,.... the long chain is more durable and supposably easier for your body to use, but from my experience its bunk... gives u a little pump, apart from that nowt...

im sure your local gyms will have plenty of lads selling allsorts, dont be too quik to order on line

[Van_Bilderass]

but still, is "Long R3" the same as regular IGF-1?

real igf-1 is too unstable, even if u ever came across some( which u wont ) even shaking the bottle would fuck it up, so all the posting and changing hands would totaly destroy whatever it was,.... the long chain is more durable and supposably easier for your body to use, but from my experience its bunk... gives u a little pump, apart from that nowt...

im sure your local gyms will have plenty of lads selling allsorts, dont be too quik to order on line

It's not that it's unstable like that. LR3 doesn't get bound by proteins (get inactive) as easily so it's better in cell culture research (at least that's what I gather is the reason for its use).

There's regular IGF-1 for human use but haven't heard of anyone using it, although some must have been diverted to the black market. Increlex is the trade name.

There's really no human research on LR3 so there's no telling what the potential sides are, especially long term.

[local hero]

the long chain lr igf was developed with transportation in mind... not just transportation into your body...

[Van_Bilderass]

the long chain lr igf was developed with transportation in mind... not just transportation into your body...

Really? Do you have some data or link to support that?

There's nothing here about regular IGF-1 being unstable and not being transportable. Used as a substitute for insulin in studies.

http://www.novozymes.com/en/MainStructure/Biopharma/Products/Growth+factors/LONG%C2%AER3IGF-I/

Increlex (straight IGF-1) doesn't seem unstable. Not even warning against shaking like with GH.

STABILITY AND STORAGE
Before Opening - Vials of INCRELEX® are stable when refrigerated [2º to 8ºC (35º
to 46ºF)]. Avoid freezing the vials of INCRELEX®. Protect from direct light.
Expiration dates are stated on the labels.
After Opening - Vials of INCRELEX® are stable for 30 days after initial vial entry
when stored at 2º to 8ºC (35º to 46ºF). Avoid freezing the vials of INCRELEX®.
Protect from direct light.
Vial contents should be clear without particulate matter. If the solution is cloudy
or contains particulate matter, the contents must not be injected. INCRELEX®
should not be used after its expiration date. Keep refrigerated and use within 30
days of initial vial entry. Remaining unused material should be discarded.

http://www.increlex.com/increlex_pi.pdf

[tbombz]

what is it? anyone use it?would it benefit a natty?dosage?

you cant use igf and still be considered self natural

[SaltShaker]

you cant use igf and still be considered self natural

i know, that wasnt the question though. from the responses, it seems that i shouldnt fuck around with IGF