Colin Powell On Larry King Admits He "Was Not Entirely Colorblind" When Voting

[Dos Equis]

During this election, ...there was much talk about "The Bradley Factor" as well as "wasting your vote",
...therefore IT being A factor can be interpreted in many ways, not just as an automatic plus in Obama's favour.

I thought the Bradley effect would keep Obama from getting elected, but that has nothing to do with the fact Powell voted for Obama based in part on race. 

[George Whorewell]

Bullsh*t.  You know for a fact that if bush was black he wouldn't have been president.

Yes, because GW Bush is not a democrat. Is any of this sinking in? BLACKS DO NOT VOTE REPUBLICAN EVER. Hope this helps.

[IFBBwannaB]

what kind of dick are you???...it is not racist to want to see someone of your race do well.....black people have voted for and are still voting for whites all over the country....yet we vote for a black and now we are racists?.....and you are saying Colin TARNISHED HIS IMAGE?.....why?..because he didn't make you happy due to who he voted for?....Colin has achieved more than 99.99% of the people on the planet..what have you done?

You are a moron, he can vote black or white, but he shouldn't make his decisions based on that !
I guess this answers your question, this is what I achieved , apparently a much higher mental capabilities than you as we can see here.

[andreisdaman]

Yes, because GW Bush is not a democrat. Is any of this sinking in? BLACKS DO NOT VOTE REPUBLICAN EVER. Hope this helps.

George..you have to understand....blacks don't vote republican because REPUBLICANS NEVER EVER CAMPAIGN IN BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS..therefore, blacks have no idea what the Republicans stand for or where they are on the issues...

this is a deliberate strategy by the Republicans because they automatically and cynically assume that blacks are hostile to their politics and so they don't want blacks to hear their opinions because they fear it would generate more opposition and that blacks would actually increase their vote numbers and vote against the Republicans...

by not going into black neighborhoods the republicans actually want to suppress the black vote....this is why they can't win black supporrt....it is not that blacks won't vote for them....it's that blacks don't know where a particular republican candidate stands on issues so they vote against what they know about Republicans....that they don't want to help anyone and are anti-minority and anti -poor

[andreisdaman]

YOU of all people talk about mental ability???..you goddamn stupid-ass moron....you probably don't even vote you dumbass......he voted for Obama mainly due to his disillusionment with the Republicans....and due to Obama being black....nothing wrong with that......you are the stupidest goddamn dummy I have ever seen on GetBig.....the Irish, Italians, even Catholics have voted for their own in elections past,.....especially when it was the first time that someone of their ethnicity was getting into office....why can't blacks do the same???..

[24KT]

No, its not all race based in some way. Its race based when blacks vote because they only vote democrat. Powell was a potential republican president candidate for years and still voted for Obama because he was black. As demonstrated by this past election, whites will vote for who they think is the best candidate.

That is just soooo damned ridiculous! you claim it to be race based because Blacks only vote democrat?
So what's your problem with Black people voting for the democratic candidate?

Now you claim Powell, who clearly articulated all the reasons he was endorsing & voting for Obama,
only voted for him because he was Black? Is that what you believe? How do you explain Susan Eisenhower? Oh ya, you implied, no you flat out state that only white people vote for who they think is the best candidate? So Susan Eisenhower voted for Obama because he was the best qualified, ...but Powell voted for him because he was Black. Do you think Powell voted for Keyes, McCain or Bush in the primaries leading up to the 2000 election?

[24KT]

I thought the Bradley effect would keep Obama from getting elected,

Yes, ...that's why for Powell to say it was a factor to consider when casting his vote, means, Obama's race may not have been in his favour. If you recall, when Obama first announced his candidacy, alot of people said I like Obama, but there's no way America will ever elect a Black man to be president and I wouldn't want to waste my vote. On these very boards, I recall someone predicting America will probably have a Republican female president before it has a Black president. Therefore... voting for Obama could have been wasting a vote on an unelectable man.

[240 is Back]

If Obama were white, Hillary would have won the primary. 

I dunno. 

Without obama, edwards would have cleaned hilary's clock IMO.

Hilary was TIED with Edwards in Iowa primary.  Even with obama stealing all the 'dove' votes, with hilary as the 'hawk', Edwards still tied.

I think edwards would have beaten the very polarizing hilary.

[24KT]

I dunno. 

Without obama, edwards would have cleaned hilary's clock IMO.

Hilary was TIED with Edwards in Iowa primary.  Even with obama stealing all the 'dove' votes, with hilary as the 'hawk', Edwards still tied.

I think edwards would have beaten the very polarizing hilary.

I agree. Then we would have had the affair fiasco break wide open on the eve of the election,
...possibly resulting in a Mccain/Palin win. Man, I just got a chill up my spine just thinking about that little scenario.

[Dos Equis]

Yes, ...that's why for Powell to say it was a factor to consider when casting his vote, means, Obama's race may not have been in his favour. If you recall, when Obama first announced his candidacy, alot of people said I like Obama, but there's no way America will ever elect a Black man to be president and I wouldn't want to waste my vote. On these very boards, I recall someone predicting America will probably have a Republican female president before it has a Black president. Therefore... voting for Obama could have been wasting a vote on an unelectable man.

Huh?  How in the world could Powell have voted for Obama in part because Obama's race, while also holding Obama's race against him?  Impossible.  That really makes no sense.  Powell cried after Obama was elected because America elected a half black man.  Obama's race was clearly a positive factor for Powell.   

[24KT]

Huh?  How in the world could Powell have voted for Obama in part because Obama's race, while also holding Obama's race against him?  Impossible.  That really makes no sense.  Powell cried after Obama was elected because America elected a half black man.  Obama's race was clearly a positive factor for Powell.   

It could have been a positive factor for Powell, ...but a negative factor in winning his vote.
This is a General remember? ... a military man who thinks strategically. Something being a factor is just that... a factor. That factor could be positive, negative or neutral. We don't know which it was, or if it even made any identifiable difference considering all the plusses an Obama presidency brings. 'sides... look who he was up against.

[andreisdaman]

I dunno. 

Without obama, edwards would have cleaned hilary's clock IMO.

Hilary was TIED with Edwards in Iowa primary.  Even with obama stealing all the 'dove' votes, with hilary as the 'hawk', Edwards still tied.

I think edwards would have beaten the very polarizing hilary.

Hillary lost due to the monumental stupidity and incompetence of her staff and because Obama ran a very disciplined effective campaign..Bill clinton's outbursts didn't help either

[240 is Back]

I agree. Then we would have had the affair fiasco break wide open on the eve of the election,
...possibly resulting in a Mccain/Palin win. Man, I just got a chill up my spine just thinking about that little scenario.

Truning point of the campaign (almost)

I think it was october.  You posted a fake CNN clip, saying Palin had resigned from the ticket. 

I thought for sure Romney woudl step in, Palin would remain as "secretary of energy", and Mccain would promptly stomp Obama on election day.

Turned out to be a hoax, of course, but mccain would have won if he had dumped her from VP slot but kept her on board to keep the women/Milf voters.  Then he got romney to save the economic day.

mccain could have won.

[andreisdaman]

Truning point of the campaign (almost)

I think it was october.  You posted a fake CNN clip, saying Palin had resigned from the ticket. 

I thought for sure Romney woudl step in, Palin would remain as "secretary of energy", and Mccain would promptly stomp Obama on election day.

Turned out to be a hoax, of course, but mccain would have won if he had dumped her from VP slot but kept her on board to keep the women/Milf voters.  Then he got romney to save the economic day.

mccain could have won.

maybe.........but Romney is boring as hell.......Palin did bring some excitement...but I kinda  agree with you......McCain hurt his own best argument for beating Obama when he picked someone as inexperienced as Palin.....before that he was making points with the "inexperienced, not ready" argument

[240 is Back]

maybe.........but Romney is boring as hell.......Palin did bring some excitement...but I kinda  agree with you......McCain hurt his own best argument for beating Obama when he picked someone as inexperienced as Palin.....before that he was making points with the "inexperienced, not ready" argument

it was most funny hearing repubs suddenly proclaiming 18 months of being Governor of 600k people was plenty of experience to be president.

In 2012, Obama will have experience behind him, and the ability to manipulate situations to make himself look as good as possible in 2011, 2012.  if anyone thinks he'll be pushing liberal policy in spring 2012, you're nuts.  He'll be declaring win in afghanistan with Bin laden's head on a stick.  How is a governor with a snarl gonna say he/she is better on Foreign Policy at that point?

The only way a repub can win in 2012 is on the economy.  If DOW is up to 10,000 or 11,000 by then and people are happy... gonna be hard to say "I can do it better!"

[Dos Equis]

We have no idea what the primary issues will be in 2012.  In 2006 it was the war in Iraq.  In 2008 it was the economy.  There could be a terrorist attack that changes everything.  There could be a natural disaster that changes everything.  Could be a scandal.  No telling what will happen. 

[andreisdaman]

it was most funny hearing repubs suddenly proclaiming 18 months of being Governor of 600k people was plenty of experience to be president.

In 2012, Obama will have experience behind him, and the ability to manipulate situations to make himself look as good as possible in 2011, 2012.  if anyone thinks he'll be pushing liberal policy in spring 2012, you're nuts.  He'll be declaring win in afghanistan with Bin laden's head on a stick.  How is a governor with a snarl gonna say he/she is better on Foreign Policy at that point?

The only way a repub can win in 2012 is on the economy.  If DOW is up to 10,000 or 11,000 by then and people are happy... gonna be hard to say "I can do it better!"

Good point...well taken

[George Whorewell]

Good point...well taken

240 as usual is totally clueless on everything. The economy is not going to get better. But lets say for argument sake it does, a terrorist attack will make people forget the economy faster than you can cram your tiny head up Obama's ass. Suppose there is no terrorist attack, but the massive and unprecedented expansion of government coupled with the absurdly high tax rate pisses off all the independents that voted for Obama last time around. Lets say that doesn't happen, and instead the country wakes up and realizes that Obama is a radical, racist, socialist, whackjob that wants to throw a monkey wrench into the capitalist system ( which will 110% happen if his insane healthcare and cap+trade bullshit ever gets passed). Obama will lose in a landslide. Also, despite Obama being bulletproof on his sickening personal associations thus far ( which is not particularly surprising being that the entire media bends over backwards to kiss his ass) , another scandal coupled with slipping popularity may eventually be his undoing. As the overwhelmingly leftist media outlets continue to lose viewers, readers and listeners, another Obama catstrophe may be just what the doctor ordered to make its appearance ( and god willing its substance) relevant again. Jumping ship would certainly be smart business wise.

See, there are several potential variables at work here. For Obama to be a two term president, he has to pitch a no hitter the rest of the way. Just like no policy he has ever suggested has ever worked anywhere ever, none of these nightmarish possibilities or inept policies have ever worked anywhere either. The only way he leads this country again is if everything works. Forget the corruption and inexperience and incompetence and the fact that he is so off the reservation with your average American its scary-- Something ( and most likely everything) will go wrong. When it does, America will swing back toward the right just as fast as it swung toward the left in this past presidential election. History has shown this trend time and time again.

When everything hits the fan and America realizes the error in its ways, the republicans can trot out a blind, deaf and dumb elephant with a nude Sarah Palin riding it toward capitol hill drinking whiskey straight from the bottle--> Nobody will care or pay attention and the republicans will take over once again. Just as this time around, McCain barely lost the election-- People voted Obama just because it WASNT GW BUSH. In 2012 people will be voting for anyone and everyone just because they are not OBAMA.

[24KT]

Well, ...it looks like somebody has put a lot of thought into this little daydream. 

Well who am I to bust your bubble? I'm gonna let you have your little wet dream for the next 3 years.

Your awakeing will come rudely enough the day after the 2012 election. In the meantime... jerk away. 

[George Whorewell]

I didn't put much thought into this at all. It's common sense. It's human nature and it's fairly obvious. Obama has backed himself into a corner in terms of popularity and ACCOUNTIBILITY. I for one, am very happy to watch this drama unfold. Now standing in front of a teleprompter and giving speeches wont cut the mustard. He actually has to deliver. If he doesn't he's done and so are the democratic majorities in both houses of Congress.

I'm not saying he wont deliver-- stranger things have happened and to be honest, despite by complete disdain for Obama, I want him to deliver because if he does, America becomes better and so does my life. However, for him to do so, he's going to have to be perfect from here on out. The chances of that are slim to none.

[24KT]

I didn't put much thought into this at all. It's common sense. It's human nature and it's fairly obvious. Obama has backed himself into a corner in terms of popularity and ACCOUNTIBILITY. I for one, am very happy to watch this drama unfold. Now standing in front of a teleprompter and giving speeches wont cut the mustard. He actually has to deliver. If he doesn't he's done and so are the democratic majorities in both houses of Congress.

I'm not saying he wont deliver-- stranger things have happened and to be honest, despite by complete disdain for Obama, I want him to deliver because if he does, America becomes better and so does my life. However, for him to do so, he's going to have to be perfect from here on out. The chances of that are slim to none.

You know what they say... Always bet on Black. 
Obama will get America's economy back in the Black in no time. 

[240 is Back]

240 as usual is totally clueless on everything. The economy is not going to get better.

Ever?  in the next 4 years?  Give us an idea of the timeline here.

How many years until the economy recovers?