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makaveli25

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when did you decide to stay on year round
« on: August 09, 2009, 08:38:58 AM »
Im 25 been running cycles since I was 21. I always tend to run real long cycles but always take pretty long breaks inbetween. Im just sick of loosing my size sex drive and all of the other great things that go with being on. Im thinking about cruising in between and doing the blast and cruise method. I know what a big decision this is im not competing but have been serious about lifting weights since I was 15.

What are some of the pros and cons about blasting and cruising?

Are you still able to have kids down the road?

Is 25 too early to start?

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Re: when did you decide to stay on year round
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2009, 09:03:47 AM »
In the end its your decision...in my opinion training naturally is very important as well, to keep building your foundation more and more...youve never kept any of your gains while coming off of a cycle? how long were your cycles? and what kind of post cycle protocol did you use?

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Re: when did you decide to stay on year round
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2009, 12:27:03 PM »
Ive always been a pretty lean guy with a good stuture. Had abs a good chest and arms. Was my senoir year when I started. First cycle went from 180-200 pounds. Completely crashed after my first cycle I stopped half way thru the football season didn;t know what i was doing. I lost all my size my sex drive I was soo stressed out. I ran the  standard hcg clomid nolva. I think I didn't do the hcg protocol right at that shut me down harder. Finally got some tribulus and loaded up on that sex drive went crazy again and gained a bit of size back. Next cycle was my best got to 210 came off with clomid kept all my size and leaned out. Cycles after that were like 16 weeks. I always keep my size but loose hardness and some sex drive. Ive tried just about everything for pct. After this cycle im gonna try this pct.

Aromasin
clomid
pp testrone recovery stack
hcg

Im gonna take some time off. If things dont work out after awhile i might start my blast and cruise.

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Re: when did you decide to stay on year round
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2009, 05:49:05 PM »
Im 25 been running cycles since I was 21. I always tend to run real long cycles but always take pretty long breaks inbetween. Im just sick of loosing my size sex drive and all of the other great things that go with being on. Im thinking about cruising in between and doing the blast and cruise method. I know what a big decision this is im not competing but have been serious about lifting weights since I was 15.

What are some of the pros and cons about blasting and cruising?

Are you still able to have kids down the road?

Is 25 too early to start?


you are perfectly fine for now......stay on a long as you want...............but be reasonable.............. ...........if one day you wake up and you are 40, and havent been clean in 15 years................... .that might be a problem................i always like to five myself at least 2 or 3  months off a year personally

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Re: when did you decide to stay on year round
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2009, 06:00:48 PM »
Methodgna, how are your natural levels from cycling this way?

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Re: when did you decide to stay on year round
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2009, 06:44:47 PM »
i can only provide circumstantial data for you because i dont go and get my test levels analyzed................ .....first of all, let me preface this by saying that before this april...............i was off for pretty much a year and a half before that due to personal issues, i was not bodybuilding at all......which in some ways was probably good for my bodybuilding because it allowed me to go back near baseline and restore my natural test levels.

.  but between the ages of 20-25 i was on far more then i was off.,,,,,,and  i never had a problem..........the human body is much more resilient then we are led to believe...........women go on birth control, 17aa hormones, for 15 years, come off of it, and have a baby,.......the body will usually return to homeostasis.

now this is not a liscense to go out and abuse the hell out of your body, and never come off gear................but right now..............you are at an age, where you can go on for the next year, and not really have to worry about any longterm consequences.

also........most of that PCT stuff, is bullshit............cook ed up by internet steroids dealers to make you part wiht more of your money/.............thinkn of it this way............the longer you are on stuff like clomid, ect.............is the longer it will take you body to be able to start returning to homeostasis.

good luck.,....


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Re: when did you decide to stay on year round
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2009, 08:05:41 PM »
i usually go on for 5 or 6 months and then i come off for 6 or 7 months...the one thing that worries me is coming off and not being able to produce natural test thats why i was asking...so far i havent had an issue

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Re: when did you decide to stay on year round
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2009, 07:53:44 AM »
Good replies thank you

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Re: when did you decide to stay on year round
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2009, 04:54:52 AM »
If you think the only thing you need to be concerned about regarding staying "on" all year is fertility than you are wrong. 

Extended exposure to supraphysiological levels of testosterone and/or combined with other anabolics WILL negativley impact your lipids, liver values (so some extent), kidney function (not in all cases, but you will see that your kidney need to work harder) RBC for sure, High RBC is probably the # 1 over looked side-effect of extended use of Anabolics.  To be frank, it is not healthy to have significantly elevated RBC's and hemoglobin, hematocrit year round.  This is causing your heart to work harder and harder to pump that sludge through your body.  If your going on hrt, or cycling year round, i highly suggest you give blood as often as you can.  If your gonna stay "on".  I would advise moderate dosed blasts followed by 8-10 weeks on an hrt dose around 200-250/week. 

Fertility should be the least of your concerns. At 25 your setting yourself up for a HUGE commitment.