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Bankers Face Sweeping Curbs on Pay at 5,000 firms - WSJ
« on: September 18, 2009, 06:02:41 AM »
Bankers Face Sweeping Curbs on Pay
Fed Plans to Limit How Lenders Can Structure Compensation for Executives, Traders, Loan Officers; 5,000 Firms Affected
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By DAMIAN PALETTA and JON HILSENRATH

Policies that set the pay for tens of thousands of bank employees nationwide would require approval from the Federal Reserve as part of a far-reaching proposal to rein in risk-taking at financial institutions.

The Fed's plan would, for the first time, inject government regulators deep into compensation decisions traditionally reserved for the banks' corporate boards and executives.

 Under the proposal, the Fed could reject any compensation policies it believes encourage bank employees -- from chief executives, to traders, to loan officers -- to take too much risk. Bureaucrats wouldn't set the pay of individuals, but would review and, if necessary, amend each bank's salary and bonus policies to make sure they don't create harmful incentives.

A final proposal is still a few weeks from completion and could be revised along the way, according to people familiar with the matter. It requires a vote by the central bank's board, but no congressional approval.

The U.S.'s largest banks, about 25 in number, would get especially close scrutiny. The central bank intends to compare these banks as a group to see if any practices stand out as unusually dangerous to their firms.

The Fed's latest move marks another striking exertion of power by the nation's central bank since the financial crisis struck with ferocity two years ago. It has bailed out firms such as American International Group Inc. and has flooded the financial system with money.

Some congressional critics, especially Republicans, argue the Fed is exerting itself too aggressively, a complaint that will surely be amplified by its move to oversee bank pay practices.

The proposal will likely please congressional Democrats, for whom corporate compensation has become a rallying cry, at a time when the Fed is defending itself from moves by Congress to restrain its independence.

The Fed itself believes it has the legal authority to take such action through its existing supervisory powers, which are designed to oversee a bank's soundness.

Its strategy appears to go further than what some in the industry were expecting, given that it would apply to many employees, not just top earners. It would go beyond a more generic list of "best practices" that many thought the central bank would craft.

The proposal will likely push banks to use "clawbacks" -- provisions to reclaim the pay of staffers who take risks that hurt their firms -- in certain pay packages, among other tools, to punish employees for taking excessive risks with their firms' money. The central bank could also demand that more pay be offered through restricted stock or other forms of long-term compensation designed not to reward short-term performance.

The Fed's likely move is a response to a growing critique of pay practices that began building even before the onset of the financial crisis. Previously, regulators generally viewed pay as a matter for firms to determine themselves as they tried to attract top banking talent. Fed officials have since shifted their view.

Pay is now seen as a factor that could make a firm, and more broadly the financial system as a whole, vulnerable to collapse. The financial crisis turned up many examples of how pay can give employees incentives to take risks. One example: loan officers who churned out thousands of low-quality loans in order to claim annual bonuses for themselves.

In a Wednesday speech, Former Fed Chairman Paul A. Volcker noted that one of the causes of the financial crisis "was the ultimately explosive combination of compensation practices that provided enormous incentives to take risks" just as new financial innovations "seemed to offer assurance -- falsely, as it has turned out -- that those risks had been diffused."

Early February: White House, Treasury announce rules capping cash executive compensation at $500,000 for firms receiving "extraordinary help" from the U.S., Additional compensation to be paid in restricted stock that can't be paid until the government is repaid.

The Fed's planning comes amid an intensifying global debate about the way bank employees are paid ahead of the Group of 20 meeting of world leaders in Pittsburgh next week. U.S. and foreign officials worry that if they don't coordinate their rules, some countries could draw talent away from others.

On Thursday, European Union governments issued a communiqué urging the G-20 to adopt strict rules to restrict bonus payments. Speaking after the meeting of EU leaders in Brussels, French President Nicolas Sarkozy said he would support the idea of linking the size of bonuses at each bank to their level of capital.

The Fed's thinking is the latest in a series of moves by Washington to clamp down on bank compensation. The Treasury earlier this year appointed Kenneth Feinberg to set and review pay for top executives at the largest recipients of federal bailout cash. In July, the House Financial Services Committee approved a bill to give bank regulators the ability to ban "imprudently risky compensation practices" at banks with more than $1 billion of assets, which means it would apply to roughly 700 banks, a piece of legislation in line with the Fed's likely proposal.

President Barack Obama, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and Fed Chief Ben Bernanke have all criticized executive compensation for having pushed employees to take short-term risks with little regard for the long-term effect on their companies and clients.

Republicans will likely strongly oppose the move and will be joined by industry leaders.

"Given the changes the industry has already done, if the restrictions on income-producers or salespeople are too draconian, it will actually undermine the strength of the institution," said Scott Talbott of the Financial Services Roundtable, a trade group of financial companies.

The Fed regulates more than 5,000 bank holding companies, which include the nation's largest banks, as well as hundreds of smaller, state-chartered institutions.

Since the financial crisis hit, banks have been tinkering with their compensation systems to make them more palatable to investors and regulators. Citigroup Inc., for example, is shifting pay packages to include more stock and less cash.

At the same time, banks have been boosting the salaries of traders and investment bankers to prevent the recipients' overall compensation from shrinking. Some top banks have been poaching traders, bankers and brokers from rivals by doling out multimillion-dollar signing awards and guaranteeing hefty first-year bonuses, regardless of performance.

The Fed effort is being driven by its newest governor, Daniel Tarullo, who was named to the central bank's board by Mr. Obama. Mr. Bernanke has also been involved in crafting the proposals.

The Fed board will consider the proposal in the coming weeks. If approved, it will be proposed for public comment. Officials expect to move forward with the plan quickly, said people familiar with their planning.

The policies would apply to banks regulated by the Fed, not savings-and-loans or state banks that are overseen by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. The proposal would let regulators determine whether the type of pay -- such as bonuses based on the volume of business -- creates incentives for behavior that risk the safety and soundness of the bank.

—David Enrich and David Gauthier-Villars contributed to this article.
Write to Damian Paletta at damian.paletta@wsj.com and Jon Hilsenrath at jon.hilsenrath@wsj.com

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This is totally nuts.  Lets these freaking banks fail if they fuck up. 

What next?  Sports stars compenation?  Movie stars.

Where does this end?   

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Re: Bankers Face Sweeping Curbs on Pay at 5,000 firms - WSJ
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2009, 04:34:05 AM »
I work in the banking industry, for a foreign company that actually got US and Swiss bailout money to be fair and square, and last year we got a bonus. Same this year. I mean, they don't call it "bonus" per se, but if you're getting a 5% salary increase per year, for 10 years straight, and all of a sudden your salary shoots up 20% then you pretty much know what's going on (which is what happened to many people at my firm). Ya know what I mean?  ;) ;) ;)

People are essentially in the dark when it comes to executive compensation. There is NOTHING anyone can do. The system is corrupt to begin with. Just because they don't call it "bonus" anymore doesn't mean they're not paying themselves huge amounts of dollars. They've got a million ways to beat the IRS and the system as a whole and there's nothing anyone can do. If you want to look into the subject all you've got to do is look out for strange movements in the industry. Like this one.

This is just a big publicity stunt. They know the dust will eventually settle and it will be back to business as usual mode.

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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2009, 04:41:00 AM »
I work in the banking industry, for a foreign company that actually got US and Swiss bailout money to be fair and square, and last year we got a bonus. Same this year. I mean, they don't call it "bonus" per se, but if you're getting a 5% salary increase per year, for 10 years straight, and all of a sudden your salary shoots up 20% then you pretty much know what's going on (which is what happened to many people at my firm). Ya know what I mean?  ;) ;) ;)

People are essentially in the dark when it comes to executive compensation. There is NOTHING anyone can do. The system is corrupt to begin with. Just because they don't call it "bonus" anymore doesn't mean they're not paying themselves huge amounts of dollars. They've got a million ways to beat the IRS and the system as a whole and there's nothing anyone can do. If you want to look into the subject all you've got to do is look out for strange movements in the industry. Like this one.

This is just a big publicity stunt. They know the dust will eventually settle and it will be back to business as usual mode.


Thas right slapper - but many companies will now have the govt in their offices poking around all over and looking for all sorts of stuff. 

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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2009, 04:52:20 AM »
Thas right slapper - but many companies will now have the govt in their offices poking around all over and looking for all sorts of stuff.  

In all my years in this industry, be it under a republican or democrat president, I have yet to see one IRS or government employee sniffing around. Not one. And I work for a company that is notorious for advising its clients to commit legalized tax fraud. Yet little old me got audited (well, after I got about 2 letters and I decided to not respond to them), for a second time in less than 5 years, by the IRS because of a car I gave to charity (Outreach) three years ago, which they deemed overvalued because someone had written down VW 80 instead of VW 00. So these knuckleheads decided to come down to my house over seven thousand dollars. Can you believe that?

The second time was because they wanted to know more about some property I own overseas that I actually made the mistake of including in my returns. Guy showed up, handed him the property specs, told him how much I was paying in taxes over there, looked at the paperwork and said to me, in a straight face: "sir, you will not get audited again for many years". In the end I decided to include part of the taxes I pay overseas in the foreign source taxes section of the returns and I got a nice $ 500.00 for it. Thanks to the US taxpayer and the guys at the IRS trying to intimidate middle America.

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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2009, 05:22:23 AM »
Yet these same bums could not catch Madoff?

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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2009, 05:35:12 AM »
Nope. They could not. And that is because the system itself is corrupt.

I've given it lots of thought for some years now... and I do not think there is a solution to this. More regulation is certain to fail to solve the problem, as these people are astute and will find loopholes.

The day Richard Grasso walked away with 188 million dollars for ringing a friggin bell! was the day my suspicion that the game was rigged became reality.

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« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2009, 06:44:25 AM »
Thas right slapper - but many companies will now have the govt in their offices poking around all over and looking for all sorts of stuff.  

"If they have nothing to hide,...why should they object?"...We have been scrutinized for years,...why not they?...

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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2009, 06:58:55 AM »
"If they have nothing to hide,...why should they object?"...We have been scrutinized for years,...why not they?...

Your kidding right?

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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2009, 07:02:23 AM »
Largely, yes,... but whenever a neocon talks about car searches, traffic stops and the like, they use that platitude.