Weight Lifting---Anxiety Attacks

[Mr Nobody]

when you're compeltely whooped form a workout, waterlogged from loading creatine and 2 gal water a day, and sore in thighs, back and chest from the week's workouts...

i can't see having enough energy to do anything but vegg out and relax/heal. 

I've been doing everything 100% right for 2 weeks now, and I can barely moved.  Bloated, sore, and just plain beat.

Hey 240 was you the one that posted you could use baking soda = works like Creatine or did someone else here post that? Baking Soda has alot of uses damn good for alot of stuff.

[Van_Bilderass]

What are the opinions that weight lifting can cause anxiety attacks for people with underlying anxiety issues?   That tearing the muscle down triggers a release of adrenalin which in turn leads to anxiety issues?

I used to have them in the gym a long time ago. It was usually after very taxing sets. I was usually dry heaving in the bathroom and thinking, "oh please God make this go away and I'll never come back here again (the gym)". It was like the sky was falling down and my world was ending. But I always came back and it resolved itself eventually. A panic attack is nothing like the anxiety and nervousness felt before heavy workouts. That's nothing.

[Van_Bilderass]

Hey 240 was you the one that posted you could use baking soda = works like Creatine or did someone else here post that? Baking Soda has alot of uses damn good for alot of stuff.

I know I posted about it a while ago. It's not really like creatine. It helps with endurance.

I wish I could get powdered potassium citrate. Supposedly much better than baking soda.

[240 is Back]

nope, wasn't me on b aking soda.  that's interesting though.

I'm loading the old fashioned 5g teaspoon creatine 3x per day.  It's working very well.  I know I sound like a BBing.com newb.

[Van_Bilderass]

you need to check your adrenals with a 4-point cortisol saliva test,anxiety is caused by weak adrenals and hypoglycemia is weak adrenals also,you can have hypoglycemia but still NOT show up in blood sugar tests,my brother is living this now,try to get a 3-4 days of saliva-testing 4 times a day done...frequent-does-chelation.yahoo.com

That's pseudo science IMHO. I mean what's "weak adrenals"? Things like hypoglycemia can trigger panic attacks but the etiology is more complex than something you can't define in scientific terms, like "weak adrenals".

[Mr Nobody]

nope, wasn't me on b aking soda.  that's interesting though.

I'm loading the old fashioned 5g teaspoon creatine 3x per day.  It's working very well.  I know I sound like a BBing.com newb.

Someone here said baking soda would work like creatine ...yes creatine works for sure baking soda is cheap as hell though

[Rami]

What are the opinions that weight lifting can cause anxiety attacks for people with underlying anxiety issues?   That tearing the muscle down triggers a release of adrenalin which in turn leads to anxiety issues?

I never have it while I'm working out. Even thought I'm breathing heavy and heart flutters doing sprint or all out squats. Usually then I just close my eyes and continue and try to block it out.

Your adrenal glands can become exhausted from over training or stress. Not sure if that would result in panic attacks though, but maybe lethargy. 

Sometimes just before a workout I feel damn in a few minutes I'm going to put my body through that!?

[Van_Bilderass]

Your adrenal glands can become exhausted from over training or stress.

'Adrenal fatigue' is not a recognized 'disease' from what I've seen. No ways to test for it. Lots of quackery related to this term.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrenal_fatigue

[Deadpool]

run to your doctor and get Ativans....mmmmmm

[Van_Bilderass]

run to your doctor and get Ativans....mmmmmm

In the long term these will only make panic attacks worse and more frequent. For acute and infrequent use only.

[benchmstr]

What are the opinions that weight lifting can cause anxiety attacks for people with underlying anxiety issues?   That tearing the muscle down triggers a release of adrenalin which in turn leads to anxiety issues?

it happens if i work out by my self for too long (2-3 months). if i have a workout partner, or just someone to talk to while i workout i am alright. when i workout by myself i usually do a 45 minute workout in 20 minutes, i really stress the shit out of myself. i usually have to go home and walk through the woods for a few hours.

bench

[CalvinH]

the deal is im fine when i lift, but I always get anxiety attacks a few hours later or around there. Neverfails. Probably psychological at this point

My friend it might not be a good idea to boost up your test levels.

[disturbia]

My friend it might not be a good idea to boost up your test levels.

from lots of experimenting, if I bring my test levels up just a bit to more normal levels, I feel like a million bucks. But once I start training with weights seriously, I get this delayed effect of anxiety after I lift. Like some form of my body saying, "hey, we have torn muscles, emergency".  I dont know  how else to explain it.  Or maybe its similar to an insulin drop but with adrenalin,...when I am lifting levels are high, and then later they bottom out and I get an anxiety effect.  I  really dont know.

[CalvinH]

from lots of experimenting, if I bring my test levels up just a bit to more normal levels, I feel like a million bucks. But once I start training with weights seriously, I get this delayed effect of anxiety after I lift. Like some form of my body saying, "hey, we have torn muscles, emergency".  I dont know  how else to explain it.  Or maybe its similar to an insulin drop but with adrenalin,...when I am lifting levels are high, and then later they bottom out and I get an anxiety effect.  I  really dont know.

I don't mean normal levels.I thought you were going to bring them higher ...would that extra affect your agression and anxiety

[disturbia]

I don't mean normal levels.I thought you were going to bring them higher ...would that extra affect your agression and anxiety

I thought about it but Im not bringing them higher--why play with fire?  I'm just sticking to the program of making them normal. And bringing them normal has only been positive in the past

[CalvinH]

I thought about it but Im not bringing them higher--why play with fire?  I'm just sticking to the program of making them normal. And bringing them normal has only been positive in the past

Sounds good I'm lucky the only time I deal with anxiety is when I'm stupid enough to take a fat burning or energy pill.then I need to go to the gym and work it off!

[Rami]

from lots of experimenting, if I bring my test levels up just a bit to more normal levels, I feel like a million bucks. But once I start training with weights seriously, I get this delayed effect of anxiety after I lift. Like some form of my body saying, "hey, we have torn muscles, emergency".  I dont know  how else to explain it.  Or maybe its similar to an insulin drop but with adrenalin,...when I am lifting levels are high, and then later they bottom out and I get an anxiety effect.  I  really dont know.

If something is torn, your mind would receive clear signal of this as it happens. What exercises do you do that makes you worry about torn muscles? Do you flat bench a lot and/or really heavy?

[disturbia]

If something is torn, your mind would receive clear signal of this as it happens. What exercises do you do that makes you worry about torn muscles? Do you flat bench a lot and/or really heavy?

sorry I should be clearer---not torn in injured sense, I just mean torn as in normal wear and tear from training and then the muscle repairs and builds itself up. 

[Samourai Pizzacat]

you need to check your adrenals with a 4-point cortisol saliva test,anxiety is caused by weak adrenals and hypoglycemia is weak adrenals also,you can have hypoglycemia but still NOT show up in blood sugar tests,my brother is living this now,try to get a 3-4 days of saliva-testing 4 times a day done...frequent-does-chelation.yahoo.com

nonsense, anxiety is caused by a lot of things, in Disturbia's case I think it's likely due to misinterpretation of normal stressors, or a hypervigilance/hypersensitivity to these normal stressors. Have you considered cognitive behavioral therapy? Re-appraisal of sensory information coupled with a improving your grip on the resulting cognitive processes: basically preventing your thoughts from spiralling into an anxiety attack.

I would seriously step away from self-administering test. With your history of depression and anxiety, your neuro-transmitters are likely out of balance. Test may be a temporary fix, but may do more harm then good.

[lesaucer]

take anavar

[outby43]

nonsense, anxiety is caused by a lot of things, in Disturbia's case I think it's likely due to misinterpretation of normal stressors, or a hypervigilance/hypersensitivity to these normal stressors. Have you considered cognitive behavioral therapy? Re-appraisal of sensory information coupled with a improving your grip on the resulting cognitive processes: basically preventing your thoughts from spiralling into an anxiety attack.

I would seriously step away from self-administering test. With your history of depression and anxiety, your neuro-transmitters are likely out of balance. Test may be a temporary fix, but may do more harm then good.

spot on

[disturbia]

nonsense, anxiety is caused by a lot of things, in Disturbia's case I think it's likely due to misinterpretation of normal stressors, or a hypervigilance/hypersensitivity to these normal stressors. Have you considered cognitive behavioral therapy? Re-appraisal of sensory information coupled with a improving your grip on the resulting cognitive processes: basically preventing your thoughts from spiralling into an anxiety attack.

I would seriously step away from self-administering test. With your history of depression and anxiety, your neuro-transmitters are likely out of balance. Test may be a temporary fix, but may do more harm then good.

regarding this. I have years of self cognitive and cognitive therapy with me. Also, when I do 200 mg test/week in the past, I had no anxiety, was level, no highs or lows and was in a decent mood.  Fore years, as illustrated on here, with no test, I was a miserable, violent  out of hand retard.  I firmly beleive the test brings me to a more normal level.  The anxiety issues only arise when I start lifting hard again. Maybe I just need to do cardio and only lift lightly a couple times a week.

[Samourai Pizzacat]

Did you have CBT for anxiety? If so some basic principles should give you a handle on the anxiety from lifting. The other option is to lift lighter. Problem with the last option is that you're not treating the underlying issue, the next time you might get anxiety over something more mundane, something you will not be able to simply avoid.