U.S. sees homegrown Muslim extremism as rising threat

[Soul Crusher]

Show me where i have brought up crusaders.  If you can't then at least admit you are full of shit and lying.

I didnt mean you personally, but overall as part of the debate that canard is always brought up.  

[OzmO]

I didnt mean you personally, but overall as part of the debate that canard is always brought up.  

Where in this thread has it been brought up?

[OzmO]

well?

[Kazan]

Com on bitches,

answer the questions:

So, what do you suggest?  Outlaw Islam?  Round them all up, good and bad, and put them in prison camps for what they might do?

Should we restrict religious freedoms in this country because some have used it to justify violence?

I really don't know what you do other than stay vigilent and well armed. I don't trust muslims because of  Al-Taqiyya, so anything they say it basically bullshit IMHO. And as far as the religion clause of the constitution, it has been bastrdized to mean a bunch of shit that was never intended by the framers.

[Fury]

well?

I'm curious to hear your opinion. What should be done? Do you think these homegrown jihadists should be allowed to preach violence and hatred in this country?

[OzmO]

I really don't know what you do other than stay vigilent and well armed. I don't trust muslims because of  Al-Taqiyya, so anything they say it basically bullshit IMHO. And as far as the religion clause of the constitution, it has been bastrdized to mean a bunch of shit that was never intended by the framers.

Thanks,

So you think there should be restrictions on religious freedom in the USA?

It's too bad.  I have good friends who are muslims.  I deal with them every day.   Maybe i should carry a gun so i pop a cap in their heads if they go all AQ on me.  

[Kazan]

Thanks,

So you think there should be restrictions on religious freedom in the USA?

It's too bad.  I have good friends who are muslims.  I deal with them every day.   Maybe i should carry a gun so i pop a cap in their heads if they go all AQ on me.  

What the freedom of religion clause was designed to do is prevent a Church of the United States, as the founders were from a country that was basically run by the Church of England. So yes you are free to practice whatever religion you want, but there is a point where the line is crossed.

[OzmO]

I'm curious to hear your opinion. What should be done? Do you think these homegrown jihadists should be allowed to preach violence and hatred in this country?

No.  Preaching religious violence, i think is against the law, if not it should be.  Isn't inciting to violence against the law?  

Other than that, freedom to criticize this country as a citizen should be maintained.  

What do you think?

So, what do you suggest?  Outlaw Islam?  Round them all up, good and bad, and put them in prison camps for what they might do?

Should we restrict religious freedoms in this country because some have used it to justify violence?


Because you and i may completely disagree on this thing, but i do agree Islam in very much a part of this.  

[Fury]

I don't think religious freedom should be restricted. My problem is that a large number of these mosques preach "peace" on the top floor while holding jihadist reading sessions in the basement. They're all nice and fluff on outside while preaching their real message of death to the USA and the killing of civilians on the inside. It bothers me that this is allowed to go on because of the apologist attitude most people have with regard to Muslims. Can't upset the Muslims because we don't to risk pissing off more of them. 

[OzmO]

I don't think religious freedom should be restricted. My problem is that a large number of these mosques preach "peace" on the top floor while holding jihadist reading sessions in the basement. They're all nice and fluff on outside while preaching their real message of death to the USA and the killing of civilians on the inside. It bothers me that this is allowed to go on because of the apologist attitude most people have with regard to Muslims. Can't upset the Muslims because we don't to risk pissing off more of them. 

I don't know about that going on in Mosques.   I'm sure somewhere that happens. I'm also pretty sure the FBI or someone keeps tabs on the ones that do.  I would hope.

[shootfighter1]

That's how I feel Berzerk. 
The question is how do you separate out muslims who are extremists or prone to extremist influence.  I think we should also be prevent anyone immigrating to the country who believes shaira law is more important than the law of the land, those seem to be the muslims who refuse to assimilate and want to change our laws and customs.
Agreed, the majority of the muslims I have met seem fine...but I'm probably not meeting the fundamentalists.

[OzmO]

That's how I feel Berzerk. 
The question is how do you separate out muslims who are extremists or prone to extremist influence.  I think we should also be prevent anyone immigrating to the country who believes shaira law is more important than the law of the land, those seem to be the muslims who refuse to assimilate and want to change our laws and customs.
Agreed, the majority of the muslims I have met seem fine...but I'm probably not meeting the fundamentalists.

that's what is scary about Britain, they seems to pander to it.

[shootfighter1]

Exactly Oz and I wondered why.  Someone from the UK (on here I think) thought it was a pull attracting more voters for the labour party.  That's where I hate politics, some put party before the best interests of their country.
It's a shame what Brittan has allowed with unchecked immigration, such a beautiful country that needs to be preserved.  Immigrants can be fantastic and make a country greater but not when they come in without pride and with the idea they want to change the country and don't want to be an active part of it.