Global Governance - EU President Admits One-World Government is Here NWO

[SAMSON123]

For those who doubt the reason for the Copenhagen Meeting and why Obama will sign the treaty. and YES sovereignty will be CEASED AND DESIST

[SAMSON123]

we could be a decade into global government, years of having elements of our lives decided by a government outside our own government and BF and Ozmo would still be in denial.  LOL, they don't even see a problem with this climate treaty.  They don't see a problem with releasing governmental control in this area over to a global body?  Things THAT WILL effect all Americans and countless American businesses...  and they don't think any sovereignty is lost by handing decisions affecting us, which would have been made by our representatives, over to a global overseer...  wow, just wow...  I think they're blinded by their deep seeded contempt for anyone who they consider a conspiracy theorist.  So it doesn't matter how many videos like this they see, they won't know it until history is examining the transition to global government decades after it happened and I'm sure they'll conveniently forget they ever mocked people who warned others at the time.

I am seriously starting to believe that Ozmo, BF etc are secretly US agents or soldiers or something along those lines and their whole agenda is to discredit anyone who shines a light on these types of things or anyone who offers opinions that draw attention to those persons, government entities, organizations who have NWO as their agenda. Sad part is Ozmo, BF etc denial is either through gross ignorance or the belief that they are a part of the elite who will be uneffected by the regulations. Truth of the matter is many who are operating in that capacity or in that mindset will be shocked when that time comes and their elite "bosses" essentially cast them aside with the rest of who they have designated as "bottom feeders, low lives, non-essentials' etc. Waking up then to what is really going on and what is about to happen to them won't matter, because it will be TOO LATE TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT AT THAT POINT.

Nonetheless I post and/or repost the vids for those who may have forgotten, those who may be new to the board and those who are in denial, but are beginning to see the light.

[Purge_WTF]

http://www.prophecynewsheadlines.com/2009/10/18/wnd-report-copenhagen-goal-is-one-world-government/

[Hedgehog]

we could be a decade into global government, years of having elements of our lives decided by a government outside our own government and BF and Ozmo would still be in denial.  LOL, they don't even see a problem with this climate treaty.  They don't see a problem with releasing governmental control in this area over to a global body?  Things THAT WILL effect all Americans and countless American businesses...  and they don't think any sovereignty is lost by handing decisions affecting us, which would have been made by our representatives, over to a global overseer...  wow, just wow...  I think they're blinded by their deep seeded contempt for anyone who they consider a conspiracy theorist.  So it doesn't matter how many videos like this they see, they won't know it until history is examining the transition to global government decades after it happened and I'm sure they'll conveniently forget they ever mocked people who warned others at the time.

Explain to me this Hugo.

Lets say hypothetically that there is such a thing as leeching of the third world.

Ie, that many countries in Africa are corrupt, and not able to keep their natural riches.

How are we ever going to stop that leeching unless we somehow agree on a global level to restrict how corporations are allowed to go there?


That's the same kind of "Global governance" that you're opposed to.

Let me give you another example.

Tanzania - they have 50 percent taxes.

They don't get anything for it though.

Tanzania could have 10 or 80 percent taxes.

It would not matter.

The problem is that their system is corrupt and that their resources are plundered and leaving for other countries.

My point is this Hugo. And don't get hotheaded or anything. I'm not trying to piss you off, no, really I'm not.

Promise.

Some kind of agreement has to be made on a global level.

Otherwise you're never gonna be able to change how some are being taken advantage of.

Because if eg USA bans their companies from going to Africa and robbing - Chinese companies will seize the opportunity.

Or worst case scenario - the companies who these days are transnational - will just move their headquarters and operate from another country.

So whether you like it or not - some kind of global agreement is necessary.

You're actually making the mistake of equalling all global agreements with globalism.

But Globalism means less regulation - an open market for big TransNationalCompanies.

So what is really wrong when our elected officials are actually getting back a piece of the power from the TNC's?

Look, I don't agree with all that's been done in Europe, USA, Asia, or Africa the last year.

But one thing I think is for the better.

And that is a general trend that perhaps the political power of the TNC's has at least temporarily stopped.

[Hedgehog]

I think you have some things crosswired.  transnational corporations are predominately pro-global government.  They have often put forth open statements toward that agenda.  They themselves often proclaiming to be larger than borders or any one nation.  Isn't that priceless considering what you just asked/told me....  Where do you get that this global government will reign in TNCs from robbing helpless third world countries?  It's not secret that they love to use a crisis for change.  The worst shit has always been piggybacked on good intentions.  As so with this, it starts out a noble goal.  Save the world, lol...  Are you actually suggesting that America should be willing to give up part of it's sovereignty with the possible result eventually being most of it's sovereignty for a global government to save third world countries from being raped?  hahaha... This is so absurd it's funny.  Hell no... and you know I have a strong dislike for what corporations have done in that area.  Sack America for the greater good, is that what you really think is the best option to control the corporations?  wow...  A lot of these guys have pushed for this shit, now you're going to tell me what they've pushed for is going to be their watchdog....  haha....  You should have been clued in to something being off when the world bank popped up in the middle of this.

LOL

I think you are right in some instances.

And perhaps I'm reading you wrong.

But you seem to be anti global, period.

I see it differently.

I think that sometimes you need to come together globally in order to agree on limits on eg nuclear weapons.

A peace movement can be global btw.

Many would argue that Fair Trading is a global movement.

But a good natured one.

But I guess that your main problem is the whole political aristochracy, the big guns meeting at super meets, defining our futures with little or no insight.

That is a very valid point, and I think something that needs to be discussed.

But why not do it without conspiracy theory talk (not saying you're guilty of it though!).

[Soul Crusher]

Good clip Samson! 

Of course there are those who deny this. 

No NWO! 

And Hedge - who the heck are you kidding?  The major corps love a global govt and are its biggest proponents. 

[Eyeball Chambers]

Explain to me this Hugo.

Lets say hypothetically that there is such a thing as leeching of the third world.

Ie, that many countries in Africa are corrupt, and not able to keep their natural riches.

How are we ever going to stop that leeching unless we somehow agree on a global level to restrict how corporations are allowed to go there?

I have a question for you.  Why is that any of our business as non Africans?  

What I mean to say is, if they can't act to protect their own interests why should we? 

[Soul Crusher]

there's actually no conspiracy talk here.  several years back and before, discussion of this was strickly associated with conspriacy theorists.  That is to say if you started talking about the NWO or Global Gov, you were considered a conspiracy theorist and pushed into that category wether you liked it or not.  But today it's well beyond conspiracy theory.  The EU pres above in the video is one among many powerful men openly talking about it now.  It's no longer conspiritorial discussion.  We're now in an open transistion where the men who have worked for this openly talk about it without fear.  Nothing in this thread is really CTer.  Everything we've said is now based on what men in power are openly stating.  The CT era is gone on global government.  It's in the open and being talked about from the most elite down to you and me.  

Yes, absolutely free trade is and has been a big tool for those ulimately seeking a one world under a one world government.  And again, you can find several examples where powerful men have openly talked about this.

I have no problem with a global peace movement by individuals of various nations.  That's the people of nations voicing themselves, not a control elite working toward a global goal.  Also the elite and intellectuals working for a one world government goes back a long long way.  If you go back and look at the writings concerning a one united world back in the 1800's, you'll see that one of the primary reasons/motivations is "global peace"

I am anti global.

Hugo - exactly right. 

Its no longer a CT.  ITS RIGHT IN YOUR DAMN FACE!

[Hedgehog]

I have a question for you.  Why is that any of our business as non Africans?  

What I mean to say is, if they can't act to protect their own interests why should we? 

First of all, it's just about being decent I guess.

I'm not comfortable with people being in misery.


But if that argument is too "sissy" - then look at it from a completely rational point of view.

If those countries are able to sustain themselves and build up democracies, get rid of corruption, we won't have negro immigrants trying to get into Europe and USA illegally, bringing lots of trouble with them.

You will also have less war in the world, less terrorism, less resources spent on sending food TO the richest continent in the world.

It's just sound economics.

You honestly think that pandemias would spread as fast as they currently do if the whole worlds population would be living a good life?

Would AIDS even be an issue anymore except for in the gay community?

Africa is a fcuking rough place. And it's easy to just shy away from any kind of responsibility.

But the Western World are the civilization. that doesn't just mean goodies. It also mean some responsibilities IMO.

[Eyeball Chambers]

First of all, it's just about being decent I guess.

I'm not comfortable with people being in misery.


But if that argument is too "sissy" - then look at it from a completely rational point of view.

If those countries are able to sustain themselves and build up democracies, get rid of corruption, we won't have negro immigrants trying to get into Europe and USA illegally, bringing lots of trouble with them.

You will also have less war in the world, less terrorism, less resources spent on sending food TO the richest continent in the world.

It's just sound economics.

You honestly think that pandemias would spread as fast as they currently do if the whole worlds population would be living a good life?

Would AIDS even be an issue anymore except for in the gay community?

Africa is a fcuking rough place. And it's easy to just shy away from any kind of responsibility.

But the Western World are the civilization. that doesn't just mean goodies. It also mean some responsibilities IMO.

I understand what you're saying, and I hate human suffering anywhere. 

Signing away our sovereignty isn't the solution though. 

[Soul Crusher]

I understand what you're saying, and I hate human suffering anywhere. 

Signing away our sovereignty isn't the solution though. 

10000% Truth.  The road to hell is paved with good intentions. 

[Hedgehog]

I understand what you're saying, and I hate human suffering anywhere. 

Signing away our sovereignty isn't the solution though. 

both you and 386, and Hugo are 100% right of course.


I think it was 386 who made a post about supporting local producers, not necessarily going with the big corps who bring in low paid Mexicans and kills the local business.

That's the kind of Fair Trade I support as well.

I have no problem with buying cheap shit.

But when possible, I like to go stuff that also is fair to small scale business.

[Soul Crusher]

both you and 386, and Hugo are 100% right of course.


I think it was 386 who made a post about supporting local producers, not necessarily going with the big corps who bring in low paid Mexicans and kills the local business.

That's the kind of Fair Trade I support as well.

I have no problem with buying cheap shit.

But when possible, I like to go stuff that also is fair to small scale business.

I never go to Walmart and try to support local businesses. 

I switched from Corona/Bud/Coors to Sam Adams.

I am buying a new car in February and am looking at Ford. 

Just doing what I can.