what top amateur bodybuilders should look like

[Van_Bilderass]

That's what a pro should look like.. I've always said all pro's looked the best right when they turned pro (meaning won pro card) they always got shittier looking after with that extra 20-40lbs.

But if you were a judge at a show would you place this guy above Jay Cutler? Would you really? How would you justify it, by saying Cutler is too big and that this guy looks "better"? If bb was judged by this type of subjective standard then it would remove the competitive aspect from it even more because more mass and more cuts wouldn't improve your chances. And what if another judge thought even this guy is too big and that a guy closer to Zane's size was more "ideal"? Lots of people would say Steve Reeves was the ultimate in size and cuts and proportions and any bigger and more cut is ugly. Maybe it should've stopped there.

[nolotil]

It's likely he's done some, but not the huge doses that most at the national level do.  Its the insulin with the gh that causes the blocky and bloated look.
if americans could just get a good source of dbol...

yes in combination with too fast growth in general and not building a foundation..very very important to grow yourself in stages

[nolotil]

myself did a very similar type of cycle ... heaviest i ever did 250mg enanthate every 8-9 days and at the front end no more than 2-4 ananbol a day for the first three weeks. Grew like a weed and after finishing the 10-12 wks (can't remember exactly how long) kept virtually all of it while I kept training (after about 14 months went overseas for four years and didn't train at all so lost it then). Why people take shitloads if gear I'll never know. No side effects except heaps of muscle growth, strength and felt great. Bloodwork pretty much perfect during and after.

truth in what you write but same as growth respons is different so is variabtility of side effects

[nolotil]

That's what a pro should look like.. I've always said all pro's looked the best right when they turned pro (meaning won pro card) they always got shittier looking after with that extra 20-40lbs.

yes in many cases physique getrs worse aftre turning pro..just look at kamali for example (his max comp weight should never be more than 230)..many cases they try to out grow their frame. dennis james also ruined his physique ..was very very good when he won his pro card..then should slowly just added alittle mass on his weak points.

[nolotil]

But if you were a judge at a show would you place this guy above Jay Cutler? Would you really? How would you justify it, by saying Cutler is too big and that this guy looks "better"? If bb was judged by this type of subjective standard then it would remove the competitive aspect from it even more because more mass and more cuts wouldn't improve your chances. And what if another judge thought even this guy is too big and that a guy closer to Zane's size was more "ideal"? Lots of people would say Steve Reeves was the ultimate in size and cuts and proportions and any bigger and more cut is ugly. Maybe it should've stopped there.

i believe that some people can be 260 and be amazing bodybuilders..some guys can also get to 260lbs level but they shouldnt...its also a question of how you get there..how many years do you take in getting their..this is the biggest difference between 90s mass monsters and mass monsters in this day and age...90s had foundation. 00s = no foundation : too big too young

[Captain Equipoise]

But if you were a judge at a show would you place this guy above Jay Cutler? Would you really? How would you justify it, by saying Cutler is too big and that this guy looks "better"? If bb was judged by this type of subjective standard then it would remove the competitive aspect from it even more because more mass and more cuts wouldn't improve your chances. And what if another judge thought even this guy is too big and that a guy closer to Zane's size was more "ideal"? Lots of people would say Steve Reeves was the ultimate in size and cuts and proportions and any bigger and more cut is ugly. Maybe it should've stopped there.

To me (and from what I understand the original concept) bodybuilding is about aesthetics, size should always play second to proper balance, symmetry, proportions..I don't know if I would place him higher then Jay, but I've always considered the 80's physiques to be the height of bodybuilding, it's gotten ridiculous now..those guys had wasp waists..not the bloated distended markus ruhl's we see today.

[ChristopherA]

Hes looks badass. Basically thats my ideal body right there. I wouldnt want to be any bigger. How tall is he and whats he weigh?

[timfogarty]

Hes looks badass. Basically thats my ideal body right there. I wouldnt want to be any bigger. How tall is he and whats he weigh?

for bodybuilding, he competed as a heavyweight.  in the powerlifting video it was the 220 lbs weight class.  in the video he appears a bit below average in height.

[Ex Coelis]

awesome physique but his hair would struggle to make top 10 at the Nationals

[Silverback Gorilla]

Damn, dude is solid.  Props.

[disturbia]

[disturbia]

ummmmm dude has no penis?  (NO HOMO)

[KevinP85]

I would cum on those stars

[gordiano]

yeah, that dude could sell some Muscle Gallery memberships.

Fixed.

[WillGrant]

To me (and from what I understand the original concept) bodybuilding is about aesthetics, size should always play second to proper balance, symmetry, proportions..I don't know if I would place him higher then Jay, but I've always considered the 80's physiques to be the height of bodybuilding, it's gotten ridiculous now..those guys had wasp waists..not the bloated distended markus ruhl's we see today.

Truth , unfortunatly this is lost on to many people..

[LatsMcGee]

Wow! Post more pics!

[crownshep]

I won the NABBA Mr Scotland in early 1980's more than once (Big Al is a nickname, my real initals are AW and I run a gym in Paisley Scotland where Fatpanda gained his certificate although he doesn't know this until now. My Dad AW senior was also Mr Scotland) .

Alex whelan.?Remember Mike Duffy from Scotland,i competed against him in the EFBB British in 1989.

[Determinator]

That's another guy who deserves a pro card more than Peter Putnam.

And Bob Chick.

[Palpatine Q]

Truth , unfortunatly this is lost on to many people..

X3.

[Sir Humphrey]

Joel Thomas, the 2009 NPC All South Championships overall winner.  Proportionality, symmetry.  But to compete at the national level, he'll have to up the dose, become blocky and bloated.

Slurp! 

[local hero]

I spoke to Ed Kawak at the 82 Scottish when he was NABBA Universe and WABBA World champion and he told me he took 6 dbols and a shot of Test even week.  

hahahahahahahahahahahaah a,,, anyone here actualy beleive that???

[jon cole]

will be out of shape in 1 or 2 years after the first slin shot.