Why must people insist on using GH?

[WillGrant]

order it from china.

$100-125 USD a kit in lots of 10.

I would love to mate but customs downunder are tighter than a nun's cu nt 

[pellius]

great post. you and 99.9999% of decent women.

Living at home into your late, or even mid 20s for no other reason than being a soft cock is for complete losers.

to do it so you can afford drugs makes even fellow losers refer to you as a tool.

True about the 99.999% of decent women. Too bad that there's only about 5% of the female population that are decent (speaking of Americans as I don't know how it is else where). That's one of the reasons why it was pretty much a non issue that Spike was so unashamed about starting a thread about whether it was OK to be with a married woman and mentioning what he would do to a guy if the guy did to his wife what he was doing to this married women. The kicker was that this vapid tramp insisted that Spike stay loyal to her and not cheat on her. LOL! It's amazing how far we have fallen in such a short time. Two generations ago a boy of 16 would lie about his age so he can fight for his country. Now they live with their parents as they near thirty, bulk themselves up to absurd proportions so they can feel like a man, and wonder if it's OK to fuk married women.

[bic_staedtler]

"Preferably at 15-16?" Come on, Van! Don't be a moron.

It's one thing of a man to have a parent live with him than he living with his parents. There is, or use to be, a desire for a man to get out there and strike out on his own. It's different for women. And it doesn't surprise me that it's different in Europe. They come from a far more socialist culture than we do (though that's changing here in the US) and are every comfortable being taken care of by others. Whether it's the government or their parents. But there's always a trade off between freedom and security. One of the traditions of Americans and one of the reasons it was founded was for freedom. But as people become lazy and soft they tend to leave it in the hands of others to take care of them even if it means giving up some freedoms.

How old where you Van before you finally cut the umbilical cord? Or do you still live with your parents.

Remember someone posted that video of a Danish bodybuilder who was very massive but emotionally stunted? One of things that made him so pathetic was that he still lived with his mother. He even lied about it when he was out on a date and a girl asked if he had his own place. At least he was ashamed about it. The final nail in the coffin of arrested development was when, after being chewed out by his mother, he comes to her room later and asks if he could slept with her. It was obvious that there wasn't anything sexual about it but that he felt sad and wanted to be with his mommy.

I guess some people think this is touching and endearing.

This is kinda thread hijacking, but it would make an interesting thread itself: How old is too old to stay at home.  Maybe with some criteria such as age, culture, that kinda thing.  Was this a documentary or something about the man sleeping with his mommy?...wtf?

[Van_Bilderass]

"Preferably at 15-16?" Come on, Van! Don't be a moron.

It's one thing of a man to have a parent live with him than he living with his parents. There is, or use to be, a desire for a man to get out there and strike out on his own. It's different for women. And it doesn't surprise me that it's different in Europe. They come from a far more socialist culture than we do (though that's changing here in the US) and are every comfortable being taken care of by others. Whether it's the government or their parents. But there's always a trade off between freedom and security. One of the traditions of Americans and one of the reasons it was founded was for freedom. But as people become lazy and soft they tend to leave it in the hands of others to take care of them even if it means giving up some freedoms.

How old where you Van before you finally cut the umbilical cord? Or do you still live with your parents.

Remember someone posted that video of a Danish bodybuilder who was very massive but emotionally stunted? One of things that made him so pathetic was that he still lived with his mother. He even lied about it when he was out on a date and a girl asked if he had his own place. At least he was ashamed about it. The final nail in the coffin of arrested development was when, after being chewed out by his mother, he comes to her room later and asks if he could slept with her. It was obvious that there wasn't anything sexual about it but that he felt sad and wanted to be with his mommy.

I guess some people think this is touching and endearing.

Listen, I'm in Europe which is why I said my impression was that the ideal was to cut the chord real early in America. I wasn't really making a value judgment for either scenario, it was more an observation of different views in different cultures. I don't know if those who live at home always do it because they want someone else to take care of them financially. Maybe they just feel secure in other ways, I don't know. Like my friend who had the money but still lived at home.

I was a bit over 20 when I moved (over 30 now), pretty normal for Sweden I guess.

[tbombz]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA lot of guys in the thread epicly outraged that they didnt get the chance or didnt take advantage of their chance to live at home and live the good life... spike your like my older brother i never had... you even kinda look like me lol

[pellius]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA lot of guys in the thread epicly outraged that they didnt get the chance or didnt take advantage of their chance to live at home and live the good life... spike your like my older brother i never had... you even kinda look like me lol

So you consider the good life is for a man nearing 30 to still be living with his mommy?
You sound like a perfect example of how men today are no where near the level of men from previous generations.

No wonder you like to let other men fuck you in the ass and then post about it and describe how it feels. I'm sure Spike will be very flattered that you think you have any resemblance to him.

We are in a sorry state indeed.

[Bobby]

"Preferably at 15-16?" Come on, Van! Don't be a moron.

It's one thing of a man to have a parent live with him than he living with his parents. There is, or use to be, a desire for a man to get out there and strike out on his own. It's different for women. And it doesn't surprise me that it's different in Europe. They come from a far more socialist culture than we do (though that's changing here in the US) and are every comfortable being taken care of by others. Whether it's the government or their parents. But there's always a trade off between freedom and security. One of the traditions of Americans and one of the reasons it was founded was for freedom. But as people become lazy and soft they tend to leave it in the hands of others to take care of them even if it means giving up some freedoms.

How old where you Van before you finally cut the umbilical cord? Or do you still live with your parents.

Remember someone posted that video of a Danish bodybuilder who was very massive but emotionally stunted? One of things that made him so pathetic was that he still lived with his mother. He even lied about it when he was out on a date and a girl asked if he had his own place. At least he was ashamed about it. The final nail in the coffin of arrested development was when, after being chewed out by his mother, he comes to her room later and asks if he could slept with her. It was obvious that there wasn't anything sexual about it but that he felt sad and wanted to be with his mommy.

I guess some people think this is touching and endearing.

it was a movie with actors, written script for cripes sake, not real life!

[2Thick]

So you consider the good life is for a man nearing 30 to still be living with his mommy?
You sound like a perfect example of how men today are no where near the level of men from previous generations.

No wonder you like to let other men fuck you in the ass and then post about it and describe how it feels. I'm sure Spike will be very flattered that you think you have any resemblance to him.

We are in a sorry state indeed.

Are you suggesting that perhaps "tbombz" (oh brother) has a male there in the house that he cannot break away from, no matter how "hard" he tries?

[pellius]

it was a movie with actors, written script for cripes sake, not real life!

I know that. A point was being made. The contrast: big muscle man/mommy's boy that never grew up.

It's becoming more and more common for men to opt for the security and safety, not to mention financial responsibility, of living with their parents and never grow up.

[Earl1972]

these guys that live at home live like kings

mom buys and cooks the food, irons and washes the clothes, pays for all expenses etc.

it's not fair

E

[stormshadow]

So you consider the good life is for a man nearing 30 to still be living with his mommy?
You sound like a perfect example of how men today are no where near the level of men from previous generations.

No wonder you like to let other men fuck you in the ass and then post about it and describe how it feels. I'm sure Spike will be very flattered that you think you have any resemblance to him.

We are in a sorry state indeed.

Brutal owning...

[io856]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA lot of guys in the thread epicly outraged that they didnt get the chance or didnt take advantage of their chance to live at home and live the good life... spike your like my older brother i never had... you even kinda look like me lol

x2