Poll: Would you prefer to fly on an airline with Full-Body Security Scans?

[Soul Crusher]

obama did it

If we get hit again in a similar fashion, then it definately is on him.  At a minimum Napolitano should be fired.  

[Hugo Chavez]

you people need to stop and gut check.  forget everything said here and just gut check it.  Know that everything has a direction and ask if you like the direction.

Myself, I'll take my chances against danger over the danger of an over intrusive police state.  Better to die free than live with a scope up my ass for safety or what the fuck ever.  Jesus, more people die each month driving to work than could be killed by one of these assclowns.

panic panic ohhhhhh help us help us...

[Soul Crusher]

you people need to stop and gut check.  forget everything said here and just gut check it.  Know that everything has a direction and ask if you like the direction.

Myself, I'll take my chances against danger over the danger of an over intrusive police state.  Better to die free than live with a scope up my ass for safety or what the fuck ever.  Jesus, more people die each month driving to work than could be killed by one of these assclowns.

panic panic ohhhhhh help us help us...

You are not free now Hugo.  Do you feel free going through the airport now as it is?  Get over it, you already are subjected to a police state at the airport whether you like it or not.  The only issue is how much at this point. 

[Hugo Chavez]

LOL, just a funny side note:  Before 2001 you couldn't go anywhere without seeing that stupid "NO FEAR" bumber sticker or window sticker on someone's car.  After, nope... gone.... It's like people scraped those things off ASAP after 9/11.  I don't think I've ever seen one since.  I guess fear was bigger than they thought...............

[Hugo Chavez]

You are not free now Hugo.  Do you feel free going through the airport now as it is?  Get over it, you already are subjected to a police state at the airport whether you like it or not.  The only issue is how much at this point. 

you don't know me well... I don't get over certain things... ever.... When I'm wrong and see it, as you know, I'll admit it and correct myself, as many here have seen me do, so it's not pure stubbornness.  But there are certain core values one can't sway from--this is one.

Already subject to a police state is not validation of the police state.

Meaningless side note about me:  I don't fly unless I'm behind the controls.....  It's one of my issues, one of my problems.... I'm a control freak, always have been.  I can't sit in the back seat.  I must be in total control of my density.  I freak the fuck out putting my life in the hands of others so I just don't/won't do it.  I had to do it in the military but I signed up for it and barred the hardship, but no fucking way now.  I don't fly or drive or do anything else unless I'm the one doing it.

[Soul Crusher]

LOL, just a funny side note:  Before 2001 you couldn't go anywhere without seeing that stupid "NO FEAR" bumber sticker or window sticker on someone's car.  After, nope... gone.... It's like people scraped those things off ASAP after 9/11.  I don't think I've ever seen one since.  I guess fear was bigger than they thought...............

Hugo - I live about an hour from West Point.  

As a kid my dad used to take me there and we used to be able to walk wherever we wanted other than the barracks.  

Now?  Fuggetaboutit!  

It sucks bro.  I hate this shit as much as anyone, but we really have to choose between very bad options.  

[Hugo Chavez]

Hugo - I live about an hour from West Point.  

As a kid my dad used to take me there and we used to be able to walk wherever we wanted other than the barracks.  

Now?  Fuggetaboutit!  

It sucks bro.  I hate this shit as much as anyone, but we really have to choose between very bad options.  

and what do you choose then?  And what do you choose for the future?  And what do you choose for the direction of what is to come?  Are you sure you've chosen right?  I'm willing to die for my choice.  and yea that's not just internet warrior talk.  I've believed this shit my whole life and the ideas that lead me to this kind of thinking were handed down through generations.  We all die.  I don't fear what will happen one way or another.  Sorry, I'm just not a "Papers Please" kinda sheeple.  I'll die first.

[Soul Crusher]

and what do you choose then?  And what do you choose for the future?  And what do you choose for the direction of what is to come?  Are you sure you've chosen right?  I'm willing to die for my choice.  and yea that's not just internet warrior talk.  I've believed this shit my whole life and the ideas that lead me to this kind of thinking were handed down through generations.  We all die.  I don't fear what will happen one way or another.  Sorry, I'm just not a "Papers Please" kinda sheeple.  I'll die first.

The problem is we have already crossed the rubicon in that regard, now its just a matter of degree and how much of it we can tolerate. 

[muscleforlife]

I would definitely go for a full body scan.

Those who are self conscious about their bodies, get over it.

I am ready to agree to the Israeli airport security protocols.

Sandra

[muscleforlife]

Racial profiling..........
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This would be a double edged sword for me if there weren't elderly people being pulled aside for additonal scrutiny.

one of my clients, petite blonde female says she is always pulled aside for further scrutiny.

I guess paying cash and no luggage is no longer for drug cartels.

Sandra

[muscleforlife]

Huh?  The point I was trying to make was that there is no reason to throw away more rights.  This x-ray bullshit is just more government involvement that is headed to a police state.

Yeah, I honestly wish that American citizens could arm themselves on a plane, considering my rights don't end at an airport or at another state's borders, but I see too many people agreeing with this madness. 

You are under the perception that everyone legally armed is a rational person.
Sandra

[Skip8282]

The problem is we have already crossed the rubicon in that regard, now its just a matter of degree and how much of it we can tolerate.  

Excellent point, 33 - how much can people tolerate.  I think we have to find a balance between keeping the public safe and protecting peoples right to privacy.

And, in a country founded on keeping the government in check (at least in theory, lol), I can see this as being a tough sell.  I think it's a lot for anybody to take when the government starts saying it wants to take naked pics of you for security reasons.

[muscleforlife]

It wouldn't matter, because some of those gun carriers on planes would be morons which would normally be no big deal, but this time they would be armed.  Imagine a gun fight on plane.  lol.


Allowing people to carry guns on a plane would be the stupidest idea in the last 50 years.

I totally agree.
Sandra

[Skip8282]

one of my clients, petite blonde female says she is always pulled aside for further scrutiny.


Sandra

Haha...I can attest to this.  My wife and I were flying shortly after 911 and things were tough.  I think it was in 4 or so of the airports, my wife was patted down each time.  I breezed through like I wasn't even there.  Random my ass, lol.

[Hugo Chavez]

I would definitely go for a full body scan.

Those who are self conscious about their bodies, get over it.

I am ready to agree to the Israeli airport security protocols.

Sandra

wow, just wow...

America, I will miss you

[OzmO]

Just for the record,  I would prefer to fly on planes without any hassles.  But this is not the world we live in anymore.  I don't think the basic stuff we did really  worked anyway.  An Armed Undercover marshall on every flight would be better then x-ray scans i think.  But i really don't now.

[24KT]

At first I was against these scanners. But then I thought about it-- We already have to take off our shoes and belts, go through a metal detector and have our luggage xrayed.

For a time you couldn't bring liquid in your carry on and to this day some airports don't allow it ( they didn't when I was coming back from Las Vegas this year).

There are additional security points for passengers chosen at random, physical pat downs and no fly/ terrorist watch lists.

Is it really going to trample my liberty further to have an electronic full body scan performed that will last a total of 5 seconds when I know for damn sure I'm not trying to smuggle shit onto an airplane to blow it up?

As long as their are some safeguards in place to keep your identity anonymous and the people doing the scanning cannot duplicate the images, who cares?

I'm also sure they can make it so that the machine totally masks the image so as to ensure that nothing embarrassing is revealed about the passenger.

You mean like all those butt plugs and vaginal plugs that people walk around wearing in their daily lives? 

[24KT]

you don't know me well... I don't get over certain things... ever.... When I'm wrong and see it, as you know, I'll admit it and correct myself, as many here have seen me do, so it's not pure stubbornness.  But there are certain core values one can't sway from--this is one.

Already subject to a police state is not validation of the police state.

Meaningless side note about me:  I don't fly unless I'm behind the controls.....  It's one of my issues, one of my problems.... I'm a control freak, always have been. I can't sit in the back seat.  I must be in total control of my density.  I freak the fuck out putting my life in the hands of others so I just don't/won't do it.  I had to do it in the military but I signed up for it and barred the hardship, but no fucking way now.  I don't fly or drive or do anything else unless I'm the one doing it.

       Really?!! YOU... a control freak?!
...I don't think any of us would have ever guessed that at all.  Not in a million years {giggle}

[MRDUMPLING]

You are under the perception that everyone legally armed is a rational person.
Sandra

Again, I'll take my chances with that than a police state.  I'll take my chances with a citizen that has their CCW because like myself they not only had to pass a state background check, but a FBI check too.  That's why I submitted two fingerprint cards to ask for permission from said government to exercise my rights.

We take chances everyday, this feel good shit is worthless.