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Law Abiding Citizen
« on: November 02, 2009, 06:38:50 PM »
Looks pretty good.  Anyone seen it yet?

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Re: Law Abiding Citizen
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2009, 06:47:12 PM »
very entertaining

didn't like the ending though

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Re: Law Abiding Citizen
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2009, 07:58:07 AM »

Loved that movie!!!
But like Big Poppa J, I didn't care for the ending. They could have done something else with it.
But the rest of the movie I was captivated by it the entire time!

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Re: Law Abiding Citizen
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2009, 07:51:47 PM »
Just saw it. Great movie. The ending was OK, could've been better. The rest of the movie was excellent, though.

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Re: Law Abiding Citizen
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2009, 09:52:32 PM »
Looks pretty good.  Anyone seen it yet?



Absolutely loved it!!!

I saw it 4 x's.

Gerard Butler's performance is flawless. I had some issues with the pacing, and I felt there were certain aspects that could have been fleshed out a little further... like revealing more of the process that takes Clyde Shelton from a "Law Abiding Citizen" to a one man wrecking crew, ...but I give it two thumbs up.    

Don't know if those shortfalls were an F. Gary Gray thing, an editorial thing, or what, but it would have been nice to take that journey with Shelton.
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Re: Law Abiding Citizen
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2009, 09:54:40 PM »
LOL... it seems everyone feels the same way about the ending... including me.
It might also be the answer as to why the film makers didn't reveal more of Shelton's process.
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Re: Law Abiding Citizen
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2009, 01:21:34 AM »
Great movie, as someone who works in the Judicial System, it gave a real good perspective of how it works, how high conviction prosecutors work.

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Re: Law Abiding Citizen
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2009, 05:00:00 PM »
Saw it last night.  Very good - GRAPHIC  :o yikes

Not sure why everyone hated the ending   :-\  I guess I was okay with it...
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Re: Law Abiding Citizen
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2009, 04:35:41 AM »
Saw it last night.  Very good - GRAPHIC  :o yikes

Not sure why everyone hated the ending   :-\  I guess I was okay with it...


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They probably hated the ending because they were rooting for Clyde Shelton to outwit authorities and win.
That may also be why the film makers chose not to reveal more of Shelton's process to us.

It's the first rule of acting... call it Acting 101 if you will. You MUST always make your character likeable, even if you are playing a villain, you have to win the hearts & minds of your audience, and that's what Shelton did. We liked him. We wanted him to win. If the film makers had revealed more of Shelton's process, and allowed us to not only witness his pain, but also to feel it with him every step of the way during his transformation from nice family man to outraged killer, we might have reacted even stronger to his eventual demise. It's a Hollywood film where the bad guy NEVER wins in the end, hence the ending we saw, ...but it could have been interesting if Shelton had indeed brought down the entire Philadelphia judicial system, ...or maybe they just ran out of ideas and had to end the film there? {shrug}
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Re: Law Abiding Citizen
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2009, 07:34:51 AM »
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, ...or maybe they just ran out of ideas and had to end the film there? {shrug}

This is exactly why I didn't care for the ending....That is what I felt happened.

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Re: Law Abiding Citizen
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2009, 06:38:56 PM »
This is exactly why I didn't care for the ending....That is what I felt happened.

Because it was the acting 101 scenario taking place, ...or you thought they just ran out of ideas?

I think they could have gotten a better reponse to the ending had we seen more inner turmoil from Shelton, some sense of the man still knowing right from wrong, ...some twinge of conscience. His jump from family man to psycopath was a little too rapid for me. That line "Warden I think I'm going to need a shower" imo should not have been so casual. There should have been more reflection and much more inner conflict apparent. There was imo too much emphasis put on the cat n mouse, and not enough exploring the inner worlds of Shelton and Rice... and Shelton's wife was a bloody under 5. What's up with that? Was she packaged? We should've seen more of her.

It's easy being a Monday morning quarterback, ...but all in all, I'd say it was a darned fine film, definitely worth watching.
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Re: Law Abiding Citizen
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2009, 06:56:39 PM »
trying to catch it this week

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Re: Law Abiding Citizen
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2009, 10:23:37 PM »
Because it was the acting 101 scenario taking place, ...or you thought they just ran out of ideas?

I think they could have gotten a better reponse to the ending had we seen more inner turmoil from Shelton, some sense of the man still knowing right from wrong, ...some twinge of conscience. His jump from family man to psycopath was a little too rapid for me. That line "Warden I think I'm going to need a shower" imo should not have been so casual. There should have been more reflection and much more inner conflict apparent. There was imo too much emphasis put on the cat n mouse, and not enough exploring the inner worlds of Shelton and Rice... and Shelton's wife was a bloody under 5. What's up with that? Was she packaged? We should've seen more of her.

It's easy being a Monday morning quarterback, ...but all in all, I'd say it was a darned fine film, definitely worth watching.

I think they may shoot and have the film to develop all the parts some of the audience wants, but if they include it it can just be too damn long and\or boring to some. In this movie, I was enthralled the entire time, and wouldn't have cared if they dragged it on another hour.
The part about his wife, was how he had to watch her be raped and murdered right in front of him. I think a lot of the stuff is just left on the editing room floor.

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Re: Law Abiding Citizen
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2009, 08:39:14 AM »
great movie.
some good gore.
great plugs for  Del Frisco's and Duxiana.
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Re: Law Abiding Citizen
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2009, 03:25:37 AM »
I think they may shoot and have the film to develop all the parts some of the audience wants, but if they include it it can just be too damn long and\or boring to some. In this movie, I was enthralled the entire time, and wouldn't have cared if they dragged it on another hour.
The part about his wife, was how he had to watch her be raped and murdered right in front of him. I think a lot of the stuff is just left on the editing room floor.

I don't doubt it. There are many versions of a film and how test audiences react in screenings, plays a big part in whether the film is re-edited, scenes chopped, or if entirely new endings are shot. On the John Travolta Samuel L Jackson film 'Basic'... they went back into the studio and re-shot an entirely new ending because of the passionate responses of test audiences. They were adamantly against the ending.

As for the wife and seeing more of her, ...I don't mean seeing more of her brutalization. I was refering to seeing more of her as his wife. They should have established the level of closeness, the happy memories they shared together etc. even if as mere memories or flashbacks. Similar to the way those connectioins were established by M. Night Shamalyan between Bruce Willis' character and his wife in 'The Sixth Sense'. He was able to establish such incredibly deep devotion, love and longing in two characters who essentially never spoke a single word to each other, ...and when they did, those questions remained unanswered. But it's a brilliant technique imo for establishing the closeness that we then get to juxtapose against the stark reality of his newfound solitude. They approached that with his little girl, but we saw nothing of that with his wife. Do we even know the wife's name? We at least remember his little girl's pet name 'Pumpkin'. But would we even remember the wife? It took me a while to figure out those crime scene photos were even of his wife. It's like what was she there for. She could have been the maid, the housekeeper, his mother, the paperboy collecting his bill, a girl scout selling cookies... there was nothing significant enough about her that made her essential to the film, that's why I wonder if she was a package, because she was so insignificant, ...or if her attack scenes were so disturbing to audiences they had to leave them out, ...in which case, all the more reason to establish the state of their marriage prior to the attack..
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Re: Law Abiding Citizen
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2010, 06:51:33 PM »
Just watched this film, excellent.
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Re: Law Abiding Citizen
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2010, 09:11:25 PM »
trying to catch it this week
Did you see it?  Did you like it?
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Re: Law Abiding Citizen
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2010, 09:17:44 PM »
I thought it was o.k.  Not great.  Not bad. 

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Re: Law Abiding Citizen
« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2010, 10:33:53 AM »
Good film - I was hooked all the way through it.