Can you tell us about Sirhan Sirhan Samson?

[Eyeball Chambers]

Just read a little bit about this guy, interesting stuff. 

Know anything about it Samson?

 

[SAMSON123]

Just read a little bit about this guy, interesting stuff. 

Know anything about it Samson?

 

Unfortunately EYE I can not tell you a lot about Sirhan Sirhan as the information about him and the assassination has been made so convoluted and complex, that it is near impossible to get a straight or truthful answer about anything. I will say this however, I do NOT believe he killed Kennedy as  no sound reason for doing so has ever been presented. Claims of him being crazy, disturbed, angry over the jew Arab conflict in the Middle East has been used to justify the assassination. None of that holds water though. Kennedy was a new president who had nothing to do with the conflict in the Middle East and sadly enough killing him was as worthless as if Sirhan had killed any man on the street and blamed him for the Middle East unrest. He (Sirhan) would have probably been more effective if he had boarded a plane and went to Israel and killed whoever was the prime minister there at the time.

Convoluted reasons were and still are being made up to show that Sirhan was "disturbed" he was claimed to be a part of an occult movement, he was supposedly of "diminished capacity", he was retarded, he was even said to be a product of MK ULTRA (I wonder if this is true as the US government has been experimenting with making people into zombie assassins for sometime now...ever watch the movie Manchurian Candidate?) etc etc etc...with most of these claims being made by the government and its hired doctors/ lawyers/psychiatrists etc, the public was swayed into believing this. My question is...in this time there were many assassination in america of various people who stood up against the foreign policies of america, who stood up against the government, who stood up against racial/religious discrimination, who stood up against the bankers/federal reserve...isn't it strange that all of the people who were assassinated were just those very same types of people? Two Kennedy brothers, Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, and many lesser known but equally challenging of the government were all assassinated. The assassins were supposedly never found or a patsy was presented before the public and made to take the blame. We all know of the CIA and FBI constant claims of wanting to kill Martin Luther King, Kennedy was killed in Texas from bullets that came from three different directions and Malcolm X was shot by Black men hired/threatened by the FBI into killing him..as Malcolm like Martin constantly received death threats from the FBI and CIA.

I am not sure if you are reading a book EYE or watching documentaries about Sirhan Sirhan, but the whole matter is complicated due to the clear desire to hide information about what really went on and who was involved. Just like the 911 commission report that left out tons of information pertaining to the WTC disaster, the Warren commission conveniently left out tons of information about the Kennedy assassination that points a finger more at the US government than SIrhan Sirhan or to Lee Harvey Oswald who supposedly assassinated John Kennedy and then Jack Ruby(Rubenstein) who killed him. The whole matter is too smoke and mirrors and slight of hand. As I said...all of the people assassinated were all speaking out against the government, so who would have more of a reason to kill any one of these men? some stranger on the street? or a government assassin?...

I wish I could give more information on this topic EYE, but I have never dug deep into it...and even if I tried I would surely get lost in all of the crap  that has been presented in order to hide the truth...

[Eyeball Chambers]

Unfortunately EYE I can not tell you a lot about Sirhan Sirhan as the information about him and the assassination has been made so convoluted and complex, that it is near impossible to get a straight or truthful answer about anything. I will say this however, I do NOT believe he killed Kennedy as  no sound reason for doing so has ever been presented. Claims of him being crazy, disturbed, angry over the jew Arab conflict in the Middle East has been used to justify the assassination. None of that holds water though. Kennedy was a new president who had nothing to do with the conflict in the Middle East and sadly enough killing him was as worthless as if Sirhan had killed any man on the street and blamed him for the Middle East unrest. He (Sirhan) would have probably been more effective if he had boarded a plane and went to Israel and killed whoever was the prime minister there at the time.

Convoluted reasons were and still are being made up to show that Sirhan was "disturbed" he was claimed to be a part of an occult movement, he was supposedly of "diminished capacity", he was retarded, he was even said to be a product of MK ULTRA (I wonder if this is true as the US government has been experimenting with making people into zombie assassins for sometime now...ever watch the movie Manchurian Candidate?) etc etc etc...with most of these claims being made by the government and its hired doctors/ lawyers/psychiatrists etc, the public was swayed into believing this. My question is...in this time there were many assassination in america of various people who stood up against the foreign policies of america, who stood up against the government, who stood up against racial/religious discrimination, who stood up against the bankers/federal reserve...isn't it strange that all of the people who were assassinated were just those very same types of people? Two Kennedy brothers, Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, and many lesser known but equally challenging of the government were all assassinated. The assassins were supposedly never found or a patsy was presented before the public and made to take the blame. We all know of the CIA and FBI constant claims of wanting to kill Martin Luther King, Kennedy was killed in Texas from bullets that came from three different directions and Malcolm X was shot by Black men hired/threatened by the FBI into killing him..as Malcolm like Martin constantly received death threats from the FBI and CIA.

I am not sure if you are reading a book EYE or watching documentaries about Sirhan Sirhan, but the whole matter is complicated due to the clear desire to hide information about what really went on and who was involved. Just like the 911 commission report that left out tons of information pertaining to the WTC disaster, the Warren commission conveniently left out tons of information about the Kennedy assassination that points a finger more at the US government than SIrhan Sirhan or to Lee Harvey Oswald who supposedly assassinated John Kennedy and then Jack Ruby(Rubenstein) who killed him. The whole matter is too smoke and mirrors and slight of hand. As I said...all of the people assassinated were all speaking out against the government, so who would have more of a reason to kill any one of these men? some stranger on the street? or a government assassin?...

I wish I could give more information on this topic EYE, but I have never dug deep into it...and even if I tried I would surely get lost in all of the crap  that has been presented in order to hide the truth...

Interesting stuff, thank you Samson.

I actually saw a show about MK Ultra on the National Geographic Channel.  I was kind of amazed that something like this was actually shown on American TV.  They claimed that many people believe he was a product of MK Ultra like you said.

[Benny B]

Unfortunately EYE I can not tell you a lot about Sirhan Sirhan as the information about him and the assassination has been made so convoluted and complex, that it is near impossible to get a straight or truthful answer about anything. I will say this however, I do NOT believe he killed Kennedy as  no sound reason for doing so has ever been presented. Claims of him being crazy, disturbed, angry over the jew Arab conflict in the Middle East has been used to justify the assassination. None of that holds water though. Kennedy was a new president who had nothing to do with the conflict in the Middle East and sadly enough killing him was as worthless as if Sirhan had killed any man on the street and blamed him for the Middle East unrest. He (Sirhan) would have probably been more effective if he had boarded a plane and went to Israel and killed whoever was the prime minister there at the time.

Convoluted reasons were and still are being made up to show that Sirhan was "disturbed" he was claimed to be a part of an occult movement, he was supposedly of "diminished capacity", he was retarded, he was even said to be a product of MK ULTRA (I wonder if this is true as the US government has been experimenting with making people into zombie assassins for sometime now...ever watch the movie Manchurian Candidate?) etc etc etc...with most of these claims being made by the government and its hired doctors/ lawyers/psychiatrists etc, the public was swayed into believing this. My question is...in this time there were many assassination in america of various people who stood up against the foreign policies of america, who stood up against the government, who stood up against racial/religious discrimination, who stood up against the bankers/federal reserve...isn't it strange that all of the people who were assassinated were just those very same types of people? Two Kennedy brothers, Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, and many lesser known but equally challenging of the government were all assassinated. The assassins were supposedly never found or a patsy was presented before the public and made to take the blame. We all know of the CIA and FBI constant claims of wanting to kill Martin Luther King, Kennedy was killed in Texas from bullets that came from three different directions and Malcolm X was shot by Black men hired/threatened by the FBI into killing him..as Malcolm like Martin constantly received death threats from the FBI and CIA.

I am not sure if you are reading a book EYE or watching documentaries about Sirhan Sirhan, but the whole matter is complicated due to the clear desire to hide information about what really went on and who was involved. Just like the 911 commission report that left out tons of information pertaining to the WTC disaster, the Warren commission conveniently left out tons of information about the Kennedy assassination that points a finger more at the US government than SIrhan Sirhan or to Lee Harvey Oswald who supposedly assassinated John Kennedy and then Jack Ruby(Rubenstein) who killed him. The whole matter is too smoke and mirrors and slight of hand. As I said...all of the people assassinated were all speaking out against the government, so who would have more of a reason to kill any one of these men? some stranger on the street? or a government assassin?...

I wish I could give more information on this topic EYE, but I have never dug deep into it...and even if I tried I would surely get lost in all of the crap  that has been presented in order to hide the truth...

How can you say Sirhan Sirhan did not kill RFK when the witness there saw it happen. Rosie Greer and others pinned him down while he still had the gun in hand and attempting to fire more shots. Its hard to say there was another gunman there...the place was packed and its all on video tape.
The whole issue about whether he was actually hypnotized, or programmed, to assassinate RFK? Now THAT is the part that gets convoluted and conspiracy angles of all sorts come in. There were one or two other people seen with Sirhan prior to the assassination attempt, one in I think wearing a polka dot dress. She disappears when its time for Sirhan to go kill RFK, so it goes that she may have been the hypnotizer that took off once she made sure Sirhan Sirhan knew what to do. Who knows the motive...Sirhan Sirhan to this day claims he liked RFK and can't understand how he killed him. Strange.

[SAMSON123]

How can you say Sirhan Sirhan did not kill RFK when the witness there saw it happen. Rosie Greer and others pinned him down while he still had the gun in hand and attempting to fire more shots. Its hard to say there was another gunman there...the place was packed and its all on video tape.
The whole issue about whether he was actually hypnotized, or programmed, to assassinate RFK? Now THAT is the part that gets convoluted and conspiracy angles of all sorts come in. There were one or two other people seen with Sirhan prior to the assassination attempt, one in I think wearing a polka dot dress. She disappears when its time for Sirhan to go kill RFK, so it goes that she may have been the hypnotizer that took off once she made sure Sirhan Sirhan knew what to do. Who knows the motive...Sirhan Sirhan to this day claims he liked RFK and can't understand how he killed him. Strange.

The whole matter is not strange when you take into account what I said. MK ULTRA has been around a long time and has been used to create assassins. If Sirhan is saying now that he does not know why he did something...and even goes on to say he like Kennedy, then that should tell you something. So far as Rosie Greeer and strange witnesses in polka dot dresses and what have you...these people are the either willing or unwitting participants in a "crime". How did Sirhan (Who is a nobody) get into the affair with a gun? It harps too much of the recent events with the so called party crashers who got into the Whitehouse and walked right up to Obama. That's like someone walking right into Fort Knox. You mean the Secret Service and all of the security measures failed all at once? Hmmmmm? Didn't we go through this on 911? Absolute failure of all security, military, backup, police etc etc....something stinks!!!

None the less this is why I said I do not believe Sirhan killed Kennedy...for one there was no reason, two there is always plenty of security and security measures to assure no one undesired or with weapons get in to such affairs, three, even Sirhan says he doesn't know why he "supposedly" did this (sounds like he might have been brainwashed after the event to erase his memory). Like I said if he was angry over a jew Aarab conflict, killing Kennedy was stupid. Now had he killed the Israeli leader at the time...it would have made more sense. As it stands now...The Kennedy's who were outspoken about Vietnam and the attempted war with Cuba made themselves ENEMIES with the government, so the government had plenty of reasons to want them out of the way and to hopefully install a president that would go along with their desires....enter Nixon.

[Benny B]

The whole matter is not strange when you take into account what I said. MK ULTRA has been around a long time and has been used to create assassins. If Sirhan is saying now that he does not know why he did something...and even goes on to say he like Kennedy, then that should tell you something. So far as Rosie Greeer and strange witnesses in polka dot dresses and what have you...these people are the either willing or unwitting participants in a "crime". How did Sirhan (Who is a nobody) get into the affair with a gun? It harps too much of the recent events with the so called party crashers who got into the Whitehouse and walked right up to Obama. That's like someone walking right into Fort Knox. You mean the Secret Service and all of the security measures failed all at once? Hmmmmm? Didn't we go through this on 911? Absolute failure of all security, military, backup, police etc etc....something stinks!!!

None the less this is why I said I do not believe Sirhan killed Kennedy...for one there was no reason, two there is always plenty of security and security measures to assure no one undesired or with weapons get in to such affairs, three, even Sirhan says he doesn't know why he "supposedly" did this (sounds like he might have been brainwashed after the event to erase his memory). Like I said if he was angry over a jew Aarab conflict, killing Kennedy was stupid. Now had he killed the Israeli leader at the time...it would have made more sense. As it stands now...The Kennedy's who were outspoken about Vietnam and the attempted war with Cuba made themselves ENEMIES with the government, so the government had plenty of reasons to want them out of the way and to hopefully install a president that would go along with their desires....enter Nixon.

Security for a candidate's campaign victory speech in 1968 is not the same as the expectations we have for the SITTING PRESIDENT of the United States in 2009.

I see some of what you're saying, however, I have to delve into my recollections of the evidence of this story when I am more sober, and not anticipating sex shortly as I am now. Sorry!  

[SAMSON123]

Security for a candidate's campaign victory speech in 1968 is not the same as the expectations we have for the SITTING PRESIDENT of the United States in 2009.

I see some of what you're saying, however, I have to delve into my recollections of the evidence of this story when I am more sober, and not anticipating sex shortly. Sorry! 

Would you cut out already...Security is always the highest it can possibly be regardless of the year or whether the person is the president or the leading candidate. Stop drinking if you are going to post and whether you are going to have sex is of no concern to me or this issue.

[Benny B]

Would you cut out already...Security is always the highest it can possibly be regardless of the year or whether the person is the president or the leading candidate. Stop drinking if you are going to post and whether you are going to have sex is of no concern to me or this issue.

Of course you need me here because you are making factual errors and talking nonsense. There is no law that says Johnny Walker Gold cannot be consumed whilst posting on MY computer, so if you don't like it, LUMP it.  The fact that I am about to pound the poon tang should be of interest to you too, as I will dedicate the first nut to you, brother! The first nut is fairly quick, but the second? Ahhh shit! That's when I put in work, son. 

[SAMSON123]

Of course you need me here because you are making factual errors and talking nonsense. There is no law that says Johnny Walker Gold cannot be consumed whilst posting on MY computer, so if you don't like it, LUMP it.   The fact that I am about to pound the poon tang should be of interest to you too, as I will dedicate the first nut to you, brother! The first nut is fairly quick, but the second? Ahhh shit! That's when I put in work, son.  

All the more reason to NOT drink cheap malt liquor Benny....It makes you MELTDOWN AND FANTASIZE

[Benny B]

All the more reason to NOT drink cheap malt liquor Benny....It makes you MELTDOWN

Johnny Walker isn't "cheap malt liquor," dipshit. Learn your whiskey's and you wont make such a dumb comment in the future, my sexless friend. 

[Benny B]

18 Year Old JW Gold Label goes for $70.00/bottle. 

[SAMSON123]

Johnny Walker isn't "cheap malt liquor," dipshit. Learn your whiskey's and you wont make such a dumb comment in the future, my sexless friend. 

For someone who was supposedly readying for sex (cough cough laugh laugh) you sure seem to be wasting a lot of time with these boards trying to prove to me you drink something other than cheap malt liquor and melting down. 

And since this term has not been used on GB for a while....How GAY is it to post on the boards your fantasies of sex...

The fact that I am about to pound the poon tang should be of interest to you too, as I will dedicate the first nut to you, brother! The first nut is fairly quick, but the second? Ahhh shit! That's when I put in work, son.

with those type of comments at best you are with some GUY (Billy) or your HAND...hahahaahah