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Demon pigs at war with our future
« on: April 03, 2010, 10:55:46 AM »
Its interesting looking back in time to see who was right and who was wrong and why we are still paying any attention to the individuals who mislead the people time and time again.

Al Gore talking out his ass









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Re: Demon pigs at war with our future
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2010, 11:15:02 AM »
Interesting clip.  The sinister music doesn't really add anything.   :)

Is there statistical evidence showing massive job losses directly caused by NAFTA? 

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Re: Demon pigs at war with our future
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2010, 11:27:20 AM »
Dated but still relevant as the trend continues.

Three years into NAFTA, 60 of 67 company-specific promises made by NAFTA advocates have been broken: the promises did not even come close to being fulfilled. That is, 89 percent of the companies that we contacted had not made any significant steps towards fulfilling their promises of U.S. job creation or export expansion. The broken promises pervade American business and cut across regional and industrial sectoral lines.





Three years into NAFTA, 90 percent of the NAFTA advocates promises to increase U.S. jobs (46 of 51) have been broken; 87 percent of the promises to increase U.S. exports (14 of 16) have been broken.





According to data available under one narrow Department of Labor NAFTA re-training program, NAFTA TAA, the NAFTA-related job loss for the collection of companies in this report has increased 276% since our first edition in September 1995; the number of jobs lost due to a "shift in production to Mexico" for this group has increased by 480%. This does not even count more than 600 jobs lost due to a "shift in production to Mexico" from Lucent Technologies (formerly AT&T) and Siemens whose 1993 job creation promises had been found since the previous report, and thus are not included in this comparison.





Allied Signal, General Electric, Johnson and Johnson, Kimberly-Clark (formerly Scott Paper), Lucent Technologies (formerly AT&T), Mattel, Proctor and Gamble, Siemens, Whirlpool, Xerox and Zenith all made specific promises to create or maintain jobs, and all have laid off workers because of NAFTA as certified by the U.S. Department of Labors NAFTA TAA program.





Five companies claim to have kept their specific promises to create new jobs at certain locations through NAFTA. Yet, while Zenith created some new jobs at a plant it had cited, its relocations to Mexico of other plants under NAFTA has resulted in Zenith having a net NAFTA job loss of more than 290 jobs. Net job creation numbers of other firms were not impressive

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Re: Demon pigs at war with our future
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2010, 11:28:32 AM »
Interesting clip.  The sinister music doesn't really add anything.   :)

Is there statistical evidence showing massive job losses directly caused by NAFTA? 

Yeah I know, that's why I added the other one but you have to watch it at youtube, no embedding was allowed.

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Re: Demon pigs at war with our future
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2010, 11:33:17 AM »
Dated but still relevant as the trend continues.

Three years into NAFTA, 60 of 67 company-specific promises made by NAFTA advocates have been broken: the promises did not even come close to being fulfilled. That is, 89 percent of the companies that we contacted had not made any significant steps towards fulfilling their promises of U.S. job creation or export expansion. The broken promises pervade American business and cut across regional and industrial sectoral lines.





Three years into NAFTA, 90 percent of the NAFTA advocates promises to increase U.S. jobs (46 of 51) have been broken; 87 percent of the promises to increase U.S. exports (14 of 16) have been broken.





According to data available under one narrow Department of Labor NAFTA re-training program, NAFTA TAA, the NAFTA-related job loss for the collection of companies in this report has increased 276% since our first edition in September 1995; the number of jobs lost due to a "shift in production to Mexico" for this group has increased by 480%. This does not even count more than 600 jobs lost due to a "shift in production to Mexico" from Lucent Technologies (formerly AT&T) and Siemens whose 1993 job creation promises had been found since the previous report, and thus are not included in this comparison.





Allied Signal, General Electric, Johnson and Johnson, Kimberly-Clark (formerly Scott Paper), Lucent Technologies (formerly AT&T), Mattel, Proctor and Gamble, Siemens, Whirlpool, Xerox and Zenith all made specific promises to create or maintain jobs, and all have laid off workers because of NAFTA as certified by the U.S. Department of Labors NAFTA TAA program.





Five companies claim to have kept their specific promises to create new jobs at certain locations through NAFTA. Yet, while Zenith created some new jobs at a plant it had cited, its relocations to Mexico of other plants under NAFTA has resulted in Zenith having a net NAFTA job loss of more than 290 jobs. Net job creation numbers of other firms were not impressive


Thanks.  This is talking about broken promises and the failure to create jobs, but not job losses (other than the 290 by Zenith). 

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Re: Demon pigs at war with our future
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2010, 11:37:50 AM »
According to data available under one narrow Department of Labor NAFTA re-training program, NAFTA TAA, the NAFTA-related job loss for the collection of companies in this report has increased 276% since our first edition in September 1995; the number of jobs lost due to a "shift in production to Mexico" for this group has increased by 480%. This does not even count more than 600 jobs lost due to a "shift in production to Mexico" from Lucent Technologies (formerly AT&T) and Siemens whose 1993 job creation promises had been found since the previous report, and thus are not included in this comparison.


Theres a ton more information but I'm too busy to list them all, use the info I gave you in the last post to search them out if you want, also listen to the whole video that you have to see on youtube.