"Anti-Semitism" on the rise

[ShipSekki]

Oh I've watched the 'documentaries,' lol.  The fact that you can't even see through the most biased 'reporting' I've ever seen speaks volumes.

Total fact.  And Israel 'aggressively' hunting terrorism is a good thing, not the other way around.

It's not Israelis blowing up buses and markets BECAUSE they are filled with civilians.  Palestinians do and then hide amongst school children and hospitals in their own communities.  Then people like yourself spend no time seeing what's going on and assume Israel is the bad guy.

It's not Israelis hurling indiscriminate rocket fire into neighborhoods.  Palestinians do and then people like you point the finger when Israel gets desperate to end the slaughter of it's own civilians. 

It's not Israelis preaching the death of an entire nation and every Jew the world over, let alone actually TRYING to accomplish this.  The Palestinians are and have been for years. 

Every concession Israel have made has been ignored.  Every agreement breached by the Palestinians.  Every demand the PL's have made has been met and then they commit more murder and demand more.

Educate yourself on the meaning of terrorism and what's really going on over there and get back to me.  You obviously have no clue what you're speaking about.

 Those documentaries are not where I learned about the situation. I read a lot about it and studied it a lot. But the documentaries show what's going on the well enough.

 From the beggining the Jews have been violent colonists in the holy land. Ever since the 50's when they went into Israel, they have been savage.

 The reason why Palestinians shoot rockets at Israel and blow up busses is because they are reacting to the fucked up shit Israel does to them.

 All the deals and concession that Israel offered the Palestinians are totally unfair, that why the Palestinians don't accept. They almost always involved Israel taking over all of Jeruselum for one thing.....

[Brixtonbulldog]

Those documentaries are not where I learned about the situation. I read a lot about it and studied it a lot. But the documentaries show what's going on the well enough.

 From the beggining the Jews have been violent colonists in the holy land. Ever since the 50's when they went into Israel, they have been savage.

 The reason why Palestinians shoot rockets at Israel and blow up busses is because they are reacting to the fucked up shit Israel does to them.

 All the deals and concession that Israel offered the Palestinians are totally unfair, that why the Palestinians don't accept. They almost always involved Israel taking over all of Jeruselum for one thing.....

this last statement is how i know you've spent little time examining both sides of the history

the jews were NEVER violent colonists in the least.  the start of that nation saw small colonies settling in uninhabited and infertile land.  even the few nomadic muslim tribes lived very close with and helped the few initial jews settle and develop the land for use

it is only as time went on that radical islam turned people that initially lived together peacefully against each other.  

israel was never the aggressor.  islamic extremism ruined that nation throughout.  

the deals themselves were more than reasonable, many done on the promise that the terrorism towards israelis would stop.  it never did and instead became the tool PL's learned would force israel into submission.  this is compounded when too many in this world only see what you see and wag your finger when israel doesn't want to allow the PL's to negotiate through terror.  but you turn the other way and say israel should concede.  shame on you

[ShipSekki]

this last statement is how i know you've spent little time examining both sides of the history

the jews were NEVER violent colonists in the least.  the start of that nation saw small colonies settling in uninhabited and infertile land.  even the few nomadic muslim tribes lived very close with and helped the few initial jews settle and develop the land for use

it is only as time went on that radical islam turned people that initially lived together peacefully against each other.  

israel was never the aggressor.  islamic extremism ruined that nation throughout.  

the deals themselves were more than reasonable, many done on the promise that the terrorism towards israelis would stop.  it never did and instead became the tool PL's learned would force israel into submission.  this is compounded when too many in this world only see what you see and wag your finger when israel doesn't want to allow the PL's to negotiate through terror.  but you turn the other way and say israel should concede.  shame on you

 You are crazy and you are trying to rewrite history.

 Sure buddy, when the Jews started flooding into Palestine the natives just welcomed them with open arms...... What you are saying is totally unrealistic and just plain untrue. Aside perhaps from in the very, very beginning of the Jewish settlement there, it's been a conflict all the way.

 Palestine is like a prison now. Most of the people there suffer from mental illness because of how fucked up their lives are. Whenever some random Palestinian fires a rocket into Israel, the Israelis respond by destroying whole communities and usually killing several people.

 You can justify it however you want. But right now, what the Israelis are doing is just plain fucked up.

 And how would you justify he new Israeli settlements on Palestinian land? How do you justify the walls that were built deep in Palestinian land?

 How about the bombings of Lebanon in 2006? How about all the war crimes?

 You just keep digging back in history to find excuses, it doesn't change what's happening right now.

[the_steevo_uk]

Ok dudes chill out...you're both right and you're both wrong.
right now its a classic argument of two people not listening to each other. You both need to read ALOT more books before you start arguing on here because no offence boys your both coming across as the sort of people i have to deal with 24/7...i.e. people that know a little bit but dont know a lot, and have a set opinion about a situation which is frankly so complex and deep set in history that it's virtually impossible to blame either side anymore since theyre both equally at fault.

Israel is being a pain in the arse right now, no duobts there, and it is alienating its friends.

This business about anti-semitism being on the rise....I worked with one of the top dudes on the this subject for a couple of years, even he admits the figures are artificially pushed up every year to make it look like theres an increase...the figures are always timed to be released the day before holocaust memorial day in israel. To anybody involved with studying this sort of thing the figures have basically become a joke because every year we know theres going to be the same result....anti-semitism is on the rise. Actually it does spike after an israeli action, but then goes back down again. So there is a causal link between Israel's actions and anti-semitism unfortunately.

[ricorico]

Why is ""Anti-Semitism" on the rise" being discussed and the only perople being referred to are the Jews?

The following is a list of ancient Semitic peoples.

    * Akkadians — migrated into Mesopotamia in the late 4th millennium BC and amalgamate with non-Semitic Mesopotamian (Sumerian) populations into the Assyrians and Babylonians of the Late Bronze Age.[4][5]
    * Eblaites — 23rd century BC
    * Aramaeans or Chaldea — 16th to 8th century BC[6] / Akhlames (Ahlamu) 14th century BC[7]
    * Ugarites, 14th to 12th centuries BC
    * Canaanite language speaking nations of the early Iron Age:
          o Amorites
          o Ammonites
          o Edomites
          o Hebrews/Israelites — founded the nation of Israel which later split into the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah. The remnants of these people became the Jews and Samaritans.
          o Moabites
          o Phoenicians — founded Mediterranean colonies including Carthage
    * Old South Arabian speaking peoples
          o Sabaeans of Yemen — 9th to 1st c. BC
    * Ethio-Semitic speaking peoples
          o Aksumites — 4th c. BC to 7th c. AD
    * Arabs, Old North Arabian speaking Bedouins
          o Gindibu's Arabs 9th c. BC
          o Lihyanites — 6th to 1st c. BC
          o Thamud people — 2nd to 5th c. AD
          o Ghassanids — 3rd to 7th c. AD
          o Nabataeans — adopted Arabic in the 4th century AD


The term Semite is based around a language that many peoples used, not just jews, so to be Anti-Semitic is to be anti language in it's literal translation.

Fookin' idiots only refer to the term to base their arguement on.

[Parker]

Basically the Palestinians and the Israelis are a effed up perverse version of the Hatfields and McCoys to the nth degree.

[El Diablo Blanco]

The Jews have the second largest lobby group behind the NRA.  If anyone in the gov. tries to do or say anything against Israel they shout ANTI-SEMITISM and immediately the person backs down.  It is the biggest scam against this country.

[bigkid]

I know a Jewish guy.  Everytime I see him he offers to lend me money.  When's the last time a Christian did that for ya?

If he's a Jew, he's probably hoping you'll use your home as collateral, so when you fall behind on the payments he can foreclose on it and quickly sell it for a profit. So he then can send his kids to a better jewish school.

[Eyeball Chambers]

Whenever some random Palestinian fires a rocket into Israel, the Israelis respond by destroying whole communities and usually killing several people.

Sounds like Palestinians shouldn't allow their "neighbors" to shoot rockets into Israel anymore unless they want to be exploded... 

[Eyeball Chambers]

If he's a Jew, he's probably hoping you'll use your home as collateral, so when you fall behind on the payments he can foreclose on it and quickly sell it for a profit. So he then can send his kids to a better jewish school.

Nothing wrong with that...

[El Diablo Blanco]

You are crazy and you are trying to rewrite history.

 Sure buddy, when the Jews started flooding into Palestine the natives just welcomed them with open arms...... What you are saying is totally unrealistic and just plain untrue. Aside perhaps from in the very, very beginning of the Jewish settlement there, it's been a conflict all the way.

 Palestine is like a prison now. Most of the people there suffer from mental illness because of how fucked up their lives are. Whenever some random Palestinian fires a rocket into Israel, the Israelis respond by destroying whole communities and usually killing several people.

 You can justify it however you want. But right now, what the Israelis are doing is just plain fucked up.

 And how would you justify he new Israeli settlements on Palestinian land? How do you justify the walls that were built deep in Palestinian land?

 How about the bombings of Lebanon in 2006? How about all the war crimes?

 You just keep digging back in history to find excuses, it doesn't change what's happening right now.

The worst was the day before Isreal agreed to stop it's offensive against Lebanon it dropped thousands of cluster bombs that don't explode until fucked with, sort of like land mines.  They are disgusting people.  Still love Ron though, too bad about the J........

[Tapeworm]

If he's a Jew, he's probably hoping you'll use your home as collateral, so when you fall behind on the payments he can foreclose on it and quickly sell it for a profit. So he then can send his kids to a better jewish school.

Joke's on him.  I rent this dump.

[Brixtonbulldog]

You are crazy and you are trying to rewrite history.

 Sure buddy, when the Jews started flooding into Palestine the natives just welcomed them with open arms...... What you are saying is totally unrealistic and just plain untrue. Aside perhaps from in the very, very beginning of the Jewish settlement there, it's been a conflict all the way.

 Palestine is like a prison now. Most of the people there suffer from mental illness because of how fucked up their lives are. Whenever some random Palestinian fires a rocket into Israel, the Israelis respond by destroying whole communities and usually killing several people.

 You can justify it however you want. But right now, what the Israelis are doing is just plain fucked up.

 And how would you justify he new Israeli settlements on Palestinian land? How do you justify the walls that were built deep in Palestinian land?

 How about the bombings of Lebanon in 2006? How about all the war crimes?

 You just keep digging back in history to find excuses, it doesn't change what's happening right now.

Your skepticism about the beginnings of Israel isn't helping with your ignorance.  

First off, the Jews actually went out of their way to settle where the natives were not, often taking to less desirable land to avoid interference.  Oh, and by the way, the 'natives' of which you speak weren't much more than some tribes of nomadic goat herders.  

Not only did the initial settlements show Jews and Arabs getting along but the farming methods that turned deserts into fertile land actually drew the few and small bands of Arabs that inhabited the land into the Jewish communities.  If you don't believe me fine.. try reading a book.

So PL's commit heinous acts of terrorism unprovoked, then when Israel responds and civilians die because it was unavoidable they are now the bad guys..  :-/  If you wanna justify something then justify how you defend the animals that commit the crimes against Israel then hide among their own populace so when Israel defends itself people can say 'Oh look at the awful things Israel is doing!!  More land please

It's bullshit and this seems to be the only time in history that terrorism has become an acceptable means of negotiation.  I hope you feel good about being one of those people.

You have a problem with what is going on over there point your finger at terrorists TARGETING (read it again if you have to) civilians.. not a country plagued by murder trying to defend itself to the point of desperation.  The PLs are out of control and now Israel said it's not gonna take it any more.  More power to em.

Did Israel start the 2006 conflict?  Nope:

'The conflict began when Hezbollah militants fired rockets at Israeli border towns as a diversion for an anti-tank missile attack on two armored Humvees patrolling the Israeli side of the border fence.'

Is it Palestinian land or Israeli land?  Last I heard there wasn't such a thing as the country of Palestine and Israel still owns the land.  If they want to try and displace or intermingle Jews in Arab communities for whatever reason so be it.  Jews don't murder innocent civilians in the name of God.

Like I said..

Library..

Hit it.

[Soul Crusher]

Do you know nothing about Asian culture???

 My god dude, you seem like you have such a low IQ.

 Everyone bows to each other in Asia. They bow to me when I walk into a 7-11. They bow to me when I show up to work. You don't know what the fuck you are talking about man. You sound like a local yocal who has never left his home state.

 I've got nothing against your right wing politics. It's just that you say some really ignorant shit.

I dont see a mutual bow in that picture. 

[El Chapo]

as i already said and the article mentions the increase in anti-semitism relates with the growing number of muslims immigrating to western countries. the most incidents occur in the countreis with the biggest muslim numbers. unlike other groups like us latin-americans that adapt better these people cannot and bring their hatred with them

- El Chapo

[powerpack]

as i already said and the article mentions the increase in anti-semitism relates with the growing number of muslims immigrating to western countries. the most incidents occur in the countreis with the biggest muslim numbers. unlike other groups like us latin-americans that adapt better these people cannot and bring their hatred with them

- El Chapo

Somthing i have witnessed on my many travels as well.
Muslims will flee their country and then try and turn it into the very country they fleed from 

[Soul Crusher]

Somthing i have witnessed on my many travels as well.
Muslims will flee their country and then try and turn it into the very country they fleed from 

People who live in NC, SC, OH, FL, say the same thing about liberal Nu Yawka's.      

[the_steevo_uk]

Your skepticism about the beginnings of Israel isn't helping with your ignorance.  

First off, the Jews actually went out of their way to settle where the natives were not, often taking to less desirable land to avoid interference.  Oh, and by the way, the 'natives' of which you speak weren't much more than some tribes of nomadic goat herders.  

Not only did the initial settlements show Jews and Arabs getting along but the farming methods that turned deserts into fertile land actually drew the few and small bands of Arabs that inhabited the land into the Jewish communities.  If you don't believe me fine.. try reading a book.

So PL's commit heinous acts of terrorism unprovoked, then when Israel responds and civilians die because it was unavoidable they are now the bad guys..  :-/  If you wanna justify something then justify how you defend the animals that commit the crimes against Israel then hide among their own populace so when Israel defends itself people can say 'Oh look at the awful things Israel is doing!!  More land please

It's bullshit and this seems to be the only time in history that terrorism has become an acceptable means of negotiation.  I hope you feel good about being one of those people.

You have a problem with what is going on over there point your finger at terrorists TARGETING (read it again if you have to) civilians.. not a country plagued by murder trying to defend itself to the point of desperation.  The PLs are out of control and now Israel said it's not gonna take it any more.  More power to em.

Did Israel start the 2006 conflict?  Nope:

'The conflict began when Hezbollah militants fired rockets at Israeli border towns as a diversion for an anti-tank missile attack on two armored Humvees patrolling the Israeli side of the border fence.'

Is it Palestinian land or Israeli land?  Last I heard there wasn't such a thing as the country of Palestine and Israel still owns the land.  If they want to try and displace or intermingle Jews in Arab communities for whatever reason so be it.  Jews don't murder innocent civilians in the name of God.

Like I said..

Library..

Hit it.

Israel doesnt own anything east of the Green line mate...end of story, no legal claim has been substantiated. The only thing that is in definite ownership in the west bank is area A, under full civil and military control of the PA. Otherwise its all as up in the air as it was in 1967. You're also making no distinction between the situation in gaza and the situation in the west bank, lumping everyone together as terrorists...fact there has been no suicide attack in Israel since eilat in Jan 2007, yes there have been other incidents such as the shooting in the the Yeshiva and the digger attacks, one of which happend on my street. Again that is not the same thing as what is happening in gaza, or suicide bombings...the motivations and political goals were completely different.

murdering innocent civilians in the name of god? errr try baruch goldstein, eden natan zada, Julian Soufir, Shlomi Dvir, the Bat Ayin Cell, the Jewish Underground, yigal amir...so jews do murder in the name of god, and i dont mind saying that since i myself am jewish and fucking knew some of these people's families.

You sound as one sided as Ship Sekki....like i said before you both need to go to a fucking library. Its annoying because you're both right and both totally wrong, but i suppose this is how the majority see the conflict.

[Brixtonbulldog]

Israel doesnt own anything east of the Green line mate...end of story, no legal claim has been substantiated. The only thing that is in definite ownership in the west bank is area A, under full civil and military control of the PA. Otherwise its all as up in the air as it was in 1967. You're also making no distinction between the situation in gaza and the situation in the west bank, lumping everyone together as terrorists...fact there has been no suicide attack in Israel since eilat in Jan 2007, yes there have been other incidents such as the shooting in the the Yeshiva and the digger attacks, one of which happend on my street. Again that is not the same thing as what is happening in gaza, or suicide bombings...the motivations and political goals were completely different.

murdering innocent civilians in the name of god? errr try baruch goldstein, eden natan zada, Julian Soufir, Shlomi Dvir, the Bat Ayin Cell, the Jewish Underground, yigal amir...so jews do murder in the name of god, and i dont mind saying that since i myself am jewish and fucking knew some of these people's families.

You sound as one sided as Ship Sekki....like i said before you both need to go to a fucking library. Its annoying because you're both right and both totally wrong, but i suppose this is how the majority see the conflict.

i said jews dont murder in the name of god and you took me literally.. my mistake.  what i should have said is jews who murder in the name of god are the exception, not the rule.  the same can be found in any culture.  but how many times has islamic terrorism murdered in the name of god???  it's the norm and the main and overwhelming issue.  get the idea?

and disputed territory is open territory.  if israel wants to increase jewish presence wherever they can then so be it.  i have no problem with animals being forced out.

call me one sided if you will.. i too am a jew and have heard nothing but the same from the ignorant masses on here.  but i have definitely done my homework and my conclusion is that the problem is largely one sided therefore my viewpoint will always appear to be so as well. 

israel is not a terrorist nation but at the mercy of one.  mistakes and sloppy, bloody over spill are made on both sides as in any conflict, USA included but the PL's are the bad guys.  the truth hurts when no one wants to blame who is really at fault.

when one guy walks up to another guy on the street and decks him in the teeth they'll start fighting.  only one man is to blame but every elitist know-it-all with no common sense will spout the same BS line 'it takes two to tango, both sides are guilty, both men are responsible, yadda yadda, etc, etc'  horseshit

[drkaje]

Precisely when was the term "Semite" redefined to exclude everyone except Jews?

[powerpack]

Shipsekki the Israelis know what they are hitting when they hit back and it is not just wiping out communities.
The trouble is almost all arm stock piles, mortar or missile launch sites, bomb making facilities are hiden in the communities.
Hamas knows exactly what it is doing, it is a win win situation for them.
You hide behind a school, UN camp or hospital to fire at your enemy if he does not shoot back he is weak, if he shoots back and hits the woman and children you have put in harms way then he is a murderer.
PURE TERRORIST mentality.

And by the way this whole thread is anti Semitic with the usual hate filled, poisend mindless drivel that I have come to expect from some here.