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Video at site: http://hotair.com/archives/2010/04/27/video-orszag-explains-how-obamacare-imposes-rationing/


Video: Orszag explains how ObamaCare imposes rationing
by Ed Morrissey

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Not that any of this comes as a surprise to those who paid attention to the ObamaCare bill, of course. I wrote about the Independent Payment Advisory Board (IPAB) twice in December, first when the CBO scored the bill as a $130 billion deficit reduction, and the second time just before the passage of ObamaCare by the Senate. In both posts, I noted how the IPAB was set up specifically as a rationing system, which ObamaCare advocates denied, but which none other than OMB Director Peter Orszag confirms in this interview from earlier this month, caught by Naked Emperor News for Breitbart TV:

If anything, Orszag might be underestimating the difficulty in changing the IPAB’s decisions on rationing. The bill required a supermajority of 67 votes in the Senate to override the IPAB, which made Jim DeMint irate and prompted a big “I told you so” from Sarah Palin. As I wrote at the time, based on information from a Capitol Hill source:

The bill sets up a supermajority threshold of 67 votes to bring accountability to [IPAB] decisions, and the rule on being in or out of order can get waived at 60 votes. However, as this battle shows, even getting to 60 is almost an impossibility, let alone 67. Clearly [Harry] Reid wants to put accountability out of reach with these radical propositions.

ObamaCare is a rationing system, and the IPAB will be one of the key drivers for that rationing. If you don’t believe me, just listen to Orszag.


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You liberal dirtbags should fucking kill yourselves now before the american people get to you once they realize the treason you obamabots committed by putting these marxists in office. 


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If I ever decide to get a toupee, remiond me not to go where this guy goes.  That thing is horrible. 

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Quick Q... were "death panels", or healthcare rationing, present in Romneycare in Mass as well?

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Quick Q... were "death panels", or healthcare rationing, present in Romneycare in Mass as well?

I have no idea. 

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"I have no idea.  "

Romneycare was the model for Obamacare.  Economists have said the rationing is present in both models.   Ideas in terms of the exchange, just being able to pool and improve the purchasing power of individuals in the insurance market - all from Romneycare.

You voted for Romney in the primary.  You knew about romneycare, as you are more well-versed on politics than anyone else here - myself included.  You knew he liked socialized medicine which rationed care based upon a number of factors - an infant got resources the elderly did not in both systems.


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Oh GMAFB 240 - you know damn well I did not know about romneycare. 

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'Oh GMAFB 240 - you know damn well I did not know about romneycare.  '


You didn't know Romney had enacted free healthcare in MASS?  Dude, we debated that shit for hours.  I dont have time to dig thru old posts.... but is that what you're saying?  You never knew Romney had delivered universal healthcare in his state?

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Please show me one post in my history as tot his. 

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eh, I dont care enough about the topic to dif thry your 25k posts lol...

If you say you had zero knowledge of his healthcare history in MAss, I will believe you.  it was one of the major points Rudy repeatedly used in the debates, so I'll assume you missed those too. 

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I have a hard time being worried about rationing since anyone with private insurance already knows that rationing exists already and purely for the motive of profit

On the other hand, I do have a problem if the screen shot at the end of the clip was correct that the people serving on this board have lifetime appointments.  I don't see the value in that but then I don't know if that is factually accurate either.  Even that video with Orzang is suspect (IMO).   How about showing us a video without editing so we can hear everything the guy said

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Honestly, I was not thrilled with any of the choices and did not pay too much attention.  I just knew I would do whatsever I could to oppose the Obamunist.  

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I have a hard time being worried about rationing since anyone with private insurance already knows that rationing exists already and purely for the motive of profit

On the other hand, I do have a problem if the screen shot at the end of the clip was correct that the people serving on this board have lifetime appointments.  I don't see the value in that but then I don't know if that is factually accurate either.  Even that video with Orzang is suspect (IMO).   How about showing us a video without editing so we can hear everything the guy said

That was all that was att he site.  BTW- the toup is awful.  I want to grab my gun seeing that animal. 

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That was all that was att he site.  BTW- the toup is awful.  I want to grab my gun seeing that animal. 

you spend time looking at the guys hair?

whatever floats your boat dude


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"Honestly, I was not thrilled with any of the choices and did not pay too much attention."


You handed Romney your vote without so much as a simple WIKI check on his largest legislative achievement?

You missed all the threads here about Romney being a major lib due to his policies?

You missed Rudy calling him out during every debate about the failed Romneycare, and never looked it up?

Man... I can understand not vetting baby girl with your vote - the alternative was socialist obama.  But you looked past Ron Paul, and didn't know anything about Romney's record as Gov?  I don't get it... you're very passionate about politics, spending hours a day on it- but don't know anything about the candidates?

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So Palin was right and the lying sack of shit libs who said she was lying are wrong.What a shock!

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$1 says we have 5 RINOs in the Repub Primary, and everyone here does their best to convince themselves they aren't RINOs.

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$1 says we have 5 RINOs in the Repub Primary, and everyone here does their best to convince themselves they aren't RINOs.
$1 dollar says you campaign for obama again... ;)

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'$1 dollar says you campaign for obama again... '

Which RINO did you vote for in the Primaries, tony?

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$1 says we have 5 RINOs in the Repub Primary, and everyone here does their best to convince themselves they aren't RINOs.

1$ says you continue to claim your a libertarian but support Obama in every thread.

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every thread?  LOL... i called him a POS for hiding the healthcare info a few posts ago man.

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every thread?  LOL... i called him a POS for hiding the healthcare info a few posts ago man.

Your the biggest supporter of FAR left wingers on this site BY A MILE.You have championed Caroline Kennedy,Crist,Obama and libs for at least a couple of years.THEN you claim your a libertarian.