WOW!!!...Now that I know How You Feel Toward the Rest Of The World

[SAMSON123]

GREAT POST HUGO

It doesn't take an Einstein to see that the comment made by Begin fits right in with the Israeli mindset and attitude toward Arabs in general and particularly with the Palestinians. Right before the Palestinians were the target of Israhells aggression it was the Egyptians, the Syrians, the Jordanians and pretty much every other nation and people in the Middle East. The vile comments and murderous actions of these Israelis is well documented in books, movies, videos, news etc etc, so it is not a far reach to believe what was quoted in the New Statesman by Menachim Begin was true, even if you did not hear when he made the remark. What we have on this board are those who are zionist-like trying to protect Israhell at all costs. I have hand walked people through so many topics on this board it is not funny, posted movies, free books, vids, documentaries, news articles yadda yadda and after it all that they still refused to accept the truth and even dismissed the research/researchers/institutions/links/articles.

You can find these quotes on various message boards, comment sections of articles from that time period, in archives and various other sites...and as I said to those who wish to argue they can contact the New Statesman and see if they can get a copy of that years and month's issue of the mag (I have a feeling though now with all of the attention it may suddenly NOT BE AVAILABLE). THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE either have the magazine, heard the quote (which was spoken in Yiddish) or remember the fallout and attempted cover up of this matter after the comment was published. Some tried dissecting it to death claiming the translation/translator made a mistake in what Begin said, tried attributing it to another person, claimed it was said in secrecy and was leaked yadda yadda. The point is the Israelis make no bones about the way they feel toward the rest of the worlds people...the self chosen yentas they are would be wise to re-read the Bible, Torah, Books of Moses to see they are NOT the CHOSEN PEOPLE.

[Straw Man]

I never said anything about religion, nor have I read much about it in zionist writings.  Religion didn't seem to be much of a main point whatsoever in their writings.  As I said, I don't know anything about the second quote, I'm not vouching for it so I don't know what you want me to say there..  My post was nothing but an honest recounting of what I've found out, nothing more, nothing less

zionist have nothing to do with the Jewish religion?

my only interest in this thread is whether that quote is authentic and I've seen nothing to support that it is

[SAMSON123]

every religion has it's bat shit fundies but the question I have it whether the 2nd quote is really by Menachem Begin and I can find nothing to support it.  That quote is so over the top nutty that if it were real one would expect to not only find the quote but also plenty of response/reaction at the time

The quote is NOT over the top neither is is nutty and there are plenty of comments on the internet message boards, chat rooms, websites. As I said after Begin made the comment the attempted retractions and clean up started immediately. The scum that he was like the scum Netanyahu continue to make these inflammatory remarks on a daily basis. This has NOTHING to do with religion and certainly do NOT compare any other people's religious belief with these NUT JOBS in Israhell as a way of trying to deflect attention away from the mindset of those calling themselves jews. They foolishly think they are CHOSEN and therefore think they have the right to exterminate the world (if possible) because they are special....They are special alright...special as in SPECIAL EDUCATION!!!

[Straw Man]

GREAT POST HUGO

It doesn't take an Einstein to see that the comment made by Begin fits right in with the Israeli mindset and attitude toward Arabs in general and particularly with the Palestinians. Right before the Palestinians were the target of Israhells aggression it was the Egyptians, the Syrians, the Jordanians and pretty much every other nation and people in the Middle East. The vile comments and murderous actions of these Israelis is well documented in books, movies, videos, news etc etc, so it is not a far reach to believe what was quoted in the New Statesman by Menachim Begin was true, even if you did not hear when he made the remark. What we have on this board are those who are zionist-like trying to protect Israhell at all costs. I have hand walked people through so many topics on this board it is not funny, posted movies, free books, vids, documentaries, news articles yadda yadda and after it all that they still refused to accept the truth and even dismissed the research/researchers/institutions/links/articles.

You can find these quotes on various message boards, comment sections of articles from that time period, in archives and various other sites...and as I said to those who wish to argue they can contact the New Statesman and see if they can get a copy of that years and month's issue of the mag (I have a feeling though now with all of the attention it may suddenly NOT BE AVAILABLE). THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE either have the magazine, heard the quote (which was spoken in Yiddish) or remember the fallout and attempted cover up of this matter after the comment was published. Some tried dissecting it to death claiming the translation/translator made a mistake in what Begin said, tried attributing it to another person, claimed it was said in secrecy and was leaked yadda yadda. The point is the Israelis make no bones about the way they feel toward the rest of the worlds people...the self chosen yentas they are would be wise to re-read the Bible, Torah, Books of Moses to see they are NOT the CHOSEN PEOPLE.

simple request

post the link where you found the  quote

[SAMSON123]

simple request

post the link where you found the  quote

Here... http://www.newstatesman.com/

Now do the research

[Straw Man]

that's just the main page of a website

post the link where you found the quote

[Straw Man]

Samson - here is how you do a link:
http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=7&x_issue=21&x_article=775


Investigation--Example 2: Internet hate sites, as well as Fisk, attribute this derogation of Palestnians as “two-legged beasts” to former Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin. The source generally given is:

Menachem Begin, as quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the Beasts,"New Statesman, June 25, 1982

Indeed, the radical French-Israeli journalist, Amnon Kapeliouk, did attribute such a quote to Begin in his New Statesman article criticizing Israel’s invasion of Lebanon. The author posited:

For this reason the government has gone to extraordinary lengths to dehumanise the Palestinians. Begin described them in a speech in the Knesset as "beasts walking on two legs".

However, further investigation by CAMERA reveals that the actual speech upon which Kapeliouk based his quote, as well as news reports at the time demonstrate that the journalist distorted the quote, giving it a completely different tone and meaning. Begin was talking, not about "the Palestinians" but about terrorists who target children within Israel.

On June 8, 1982, Begin addressed the Knesset in response to a no-confidence motion over Israel's invasion of Lebanon. He talked about defending the children of Israel, and according to a June 9, 1982 AP report, “his voice quaver[ed] with anger and sadness.” According to the minutes of the session, Begin stated:

The children of Israel will happily go to school and joyfully return home, just like the children in Washington, in Moscow, and in Peking, in Paris and in Rome, in Oslo, in Stockholm and in Copenhagen. The fate of... Jewish children has been different from all the children of the world throughout the generations. No more. We will defend our children. If the hand of any two-footed animal is raised against them, that hand will be cut off, and our children will grow up in joy in the homes of their parents.

Kapeliouk neither recanted nor apologized for his deception.
Summary: Distortion by an Israeli critic of a Begin speech discussing terrorism and terrorists

[Brixtonbulldog]

Still mad because you live in that Baltimore ghetto?...Pull yourself up by your boot straps man and improve yourself.

still mad you never learned how to read?

i dont live in baltimore and never have

for the 90th time

try posting a thread with credible links and sources, moron

[Straw Man]

And these are the people who america gives over 30 BILLION per year to

"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."  - Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001
 
 
"Our race is the Master Race. We Jews are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattlce at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves."  - Menachem Begin, Israeli Prime Minister to New Statesman magazine on June 25, 1982

Well …it appears you've been duped by a fake quote

[powerpack]

try posting a thread with credible links and sources, moron

Conspiracy theorists need hysteria, hatred and fear not reliable sources.
Much more powerfull

[Hugo Chavez]

zionist have nothing to do with the Jewish religion?

my only interest in this thread is whether that quote is authentic and I've seen nothing to support that it is

I never said that either, I said exactly what I said, not what you just said.  If your only interest in the thread is to see the quote authentic, why reply to me when I said I don't know about the second quote?  The second post sounds odd using the words "master race" is unlikely.  Not impossible, but I doubt it.  I don't much care about the second quote.

[El Chapo]

lots of clips on youtube showing muslim clerics saying same thing. christians and hindus too so what. go away ur dumb

Nice video of Muslim cleric aims to seize world through nuclear weapon use and how muslims are superior to all. the jizyah all non muslims pay shows how most muslims feel about non muslims

-El Chapo

[SAMSON123]

Samson - here is how you do a link:
http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=7&x_issue=21&x_article=775


Investigation--Example 2: Internet hate sites, as well as Fisk, attribute this derogation of Palestnians as “two-legged beasts” to former Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin. The source generally given is:

Menachem Begin, as quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the Beasts,"New Statesman, June 25, 1982

Indeed, the radical French-Israeli journalist, Amnon Kapeliouk, did attribute such a quote to Begin in his New Statesman article criticizing Israel’s invasion of Lebanon. The author posited:

For this reason the government has gone to extraordinary lengths to dehumanise the Palestinians. Begin described them in a speech in the Knesset as "beasts walking on two legs".

However, further investigation by CAMERA reveals that the actual speech upon which Kapeliouk based his quote, as well as news reports at the time demonstrate that the journalist distorted the quote, giving it a completely different tone and meaning. Begin was talking, not about "the Palestinians" but about terrorists who target children within Israel.

On June 8, 1982, Begin addressed the Knesset in response to a no-confidence motion over Israel's invasion of Lebanon. He talked about defending the children of Israel, and according to a June 9, 1982 AP report, “his voice quaver[ed] with anger and sadness.” According to the minutes of the session, Begin stated:

The children of Israel will happily go to school and joyfully return home, just like the children in Washington, in Moscow, and in Peking, in Paris and in Rome, in Oslo, in Stockholm and in Copenhagen. The fate of... Jewish children has been different from all the children of the world throughout the generations. No more. We will defend our children. If the hand of any two-footed animal is raised against them, that hand will be cut off, and our children will grow up in joy in the homes of their parents.

Kapeliouk neither recanted nor apologized for his deception.
Summary: Distortion by an Israeli critic of a Begin speech discussing terrorism and terrorists

Why on earth would and Israeli: Kapeliouk, distort something being said by another Israeli: Begin?? If this had been a Palestinian distorting something said by an Israeli...I might give it credence, but two Israelis???...Not happening. The reason for Kapeliouk not recanting or apologizing is because he reported EXACTLY what was said and is standing by it. The speech (audio) by Begin was in Yiddish and was on another site until it MYSTERIOUSLY disappeared. The argument about what Begin said was claimed to be an interpreters mistake...yeah right. Funny how the speech my Ahmandinejad where he never said anywhere in it that he wants Isarael blow off the face of the earth...suddenly became just that by ISRAELI INTERPRETERS. Since that translation, neither the american media, European media and certainly not the Israhell media has ever corrected themselves by saying the Israeli interpreter gave a WRONG translation of what Mr. Ahmandinejad said. The LIE that he said blow israel off the map is still being harped on to this day. His speech has been reanalyzed over and over with the true message being to wipe out the ZIONIST from off of the face of the earth, yet no where is that reported. However this character, religious and racial distortion by the Israelis towards the Arabs fits right into their pattern of behavior and games and shows in their comments and actions

[El Chapo]

can samsong prove his quote or is he lyin again. he back pedals like adonis in the mindspin thread

-El Chapo

[SAMSON123]

lots of clips on youtube showing muslim clerics saying same thing. christians and hindus too so what. go away ur dumb

Nice video of Muslim cleric aims to seize world through nuclear weapon use and how muslims are superior to all. the jizyah all non muslims pay shows how most muslims feel about non muslims

-El Chapo

Hello Berzerk

How long are you going to try and hide behind that El Chapo bullshit name? I outed you already

[El Chapo]

less typing more excuses liar

-El Chapo

[SAMSON123]

less typing more excuses liar

-El Chapo

Is your 30 day ban over yet?

[El Chapo]

Is your 30 day ban over yet?

so you wont give the quote and will now lie more

-El Chapo

[SAMSON123]

so you wont give the quote and will now lie more

-El Chapo aka EL BERZERKFURY, EL LOSER, EL I WORSHIP LUKE, EL I AM BANNED FOR 30 DAYS

Fixed for you...hahahahahahahahaha

[chaos]

SAMSON123 is a notorious liar and fraud, nothing more than a troll against America.

[brooklynbruiser]

Samson123, stop reading rense.com. It's bad for your mental health. Neither of those quotes can be directly traced to any accurate primary sources. The second quote you put up there has also been attributed to Jimmy Carter's memoirs, yet could not be found. That alone should say something.

[headhuntersix]

Samson never quotes from a reliable source or its some hack job article with questionable facts. The guy has zero life experience and hates the US...I'm glad straw is calling his ass out.

[24KT]

He makes a decent post here and there but posts a lot of easily debunked things as fact, destroys his credibility.  I wonder if he is actually jaguar?

You can stop wondering. He is not me. As a staunch vegetarian, I would never continually force myself to have look at a slab of raw meat... no matter how much I disliked someone. Everytime I see his new avatar... I want to vomit.