Bodybuilding: Spiritual or superficial?

[ShipSekki]

 I'm wondering if any of you all can relate with me on this.

 For the past year i've really been into bodybuilding and i've been working out consistently and making great progress in my strength and muscle mass. I've been lifting hard, eating hard, gaining strength and growing. Besides that, i've been working a lot, chasing after pussy, and doing other normal, simple things like that.

 Before this year of bodybuilding started. I was focused on travelling, working on art, and living a spiritual life for a few years. I weighed around 130 pounds and I didn't give a damn about getting big, it just didn't matter to me at all. I was more focused on meditating, exploring my depths with psychedelic drugs, and learning about religions, metaphysics, and spiritual paths.

 But then I started working full time last summer, and I just shifted gears back into bodybuilding mode, like I was when I was in my early 20's. I dropped my spiritual path for a while basically, and I was just lifting, eating, fucking and sleeping for the most part. No meditations, no mantras, no attempts to center myself, none of that.

 A few weeks ago I started to get back on my spiritual path. I started doing yoga again, meditating, going to the Buddhist temple, and i'm feeling more at peace, more satisifed, less desire, less impulsiveness, less chaos in my head.

 It started with a Mescaline trip I went on about a month ago. Actually I went on 4 Mesc trips   By the end of them, I had really re-evaluated my life and I said to myself "what the fuck am I doing? I'm living the wrong life. I need to make some changes!"

 I feel like it's effecting my drive to lift weights in a negative way. Bodybuilding is basically a hedonistic and shallow pursuit honestly. Sure there is a spiritual side to it, but compared to other spiritual paths and techniques, it only scratches the surface. And my of the driving forces for lifting weights are shallow, getting pussy, intimidating and impressing guys, egomania, etc.

 I'm still lifting and havn't fallen off the wagon with my regimen at all. But my motivation is dying out. These days i'd rather focus on other things. But i'm gonna keep lifting, because I don't want to waste all my efforts for the past year.

 Sometimes when I look at bodybuilders and really big strong guys on this site, I realize that I don't want to be like them at all. They are not role models to me and they are not anything I would aspire to me myself. But when I look at spiritually enlightened and highly intelligent people I say to myself "That's what I wanna be."

 Lately i've just been wondering "Am I a fool for focusing on this bodybuilding shit? Should I drop this bodybuilding shit and get back on the spiritual path?"

 For now, I will try to work on both at the same time. We shall see how it gos.

[bigdumbbell]

do you still weigh 130?

[ShipSekki]

do you still weigh 130?

 Nope, I weighed in at 166 yesterday. I'm making good progress.

[Smanjh]

Figuring out that life does not revolve around what you look like is a priceless revelation. The only thing that matters is the size of your penis.

[ShipSekki]

Figuring out that life does not revolve around what you look like is a priceless revelation. The only thing that matters is the size of your penis.

 True that.

 Instead of all this weight lifting maybe I should just do tons of penis enlargement excercises.

 I actually did those for a while too and I gained a solid half inch of length, and some width. It works!

 I think i'll keep on lifting, but i'm just not going to focus too much energy on it or be too obsessed or perfectionist about it.

[Smanjh]

True that.

 Instead of all this weight lifting maybe I should just do tons of penis enlargement excercises.

 I actually did those for a while too and I gained a solid half inch of length, and some width. It works!

 I think i'll keep on lifting, but i'm just not going to focus too much energy on it or be too obsessed or perfectionist about it.

The thing is, you don't have to if you are not competing. Chicks and normal guys look at people with their own set perspectives. A leaner fitness model will get laid more than an IFBB pro, well, from girls anyway.

Other guys do respect bigger guys or whatever, but only to a point.

Plus, the biggest factor, whatever you are trying to do, probably look like someone who uses drugs and has insane genetics, just won't happen anyway. It is like throwing every dollar you make into a wishing well and hoping something is granted. If you did have a chance in hell at getting there, you would be close already or at least with a few years under your belt.

I am not saying to give up, but only compare yourself to yourself as far as strength-physique appearance goes. Who cares what a bunch of closet homos on a message board think?

[ShipSekki]

The thing is, you don't have to if you are not competing. Chicks and normal guys look at people with their own set perspectives. A leaner fitness model will get laid more than an IFBB pro, well, from girls anyway.

Other guys do respect bigger guys or whatever, but only to a point.

Plus, the biggest factor, whatever you are trying to do, probably look like someone who uses drugs and has insane genetics, just won't happen anyway. It is like throwing every dollar you make into a wishing well and hoping something is granted. If you did have a chance in hell at getting there, you would be close already or at least with a few years under your belt.

I am not saying to give up, but only compare yourself to yourself as far as strength-physique appearance goes. Who cares what a bunch of closet homos on a message board think?

 I decided that extreme and super serious bodybuilding is not for me. I'm gonna keep on lifting and eating right. But i'm not gonna waste too much of m time and energy on it.

 I'm going to get this bodybuilding demon out of my head and start spending more time on other things.

[Mr Nobody]

I'm wondering if any of you all can relate with me on this.

 For the past year i've really been into bodybuilding and i've been working out consistently and making great progress in my strength and muscle mass. I've been lifting hard, eating hard, gaining strength and growing. Besides that, i've been working a lot, chasing after pussy, and doing other normal, simple things like that.

 Before this year of bodybuilding started. I was focused on travelling, working on art, and living a spiritual life for a few years. I weighed around 130 pounds and I didn't give a damn about getting big, it just didn't matter to me at all. I was more focused on meditating, exploring my depths with psychedelic drugs, and learning about religions, metaphysics, and spiritual paths.

 But then I started working full time last summer, and I just shifted gears back into bodybuilding mode, like I was when I was in my early 20's. I dropped my spiritual path for a while basically, and I was just lifting, eating, fucking and sleeping for the most part. No meditations, no mantras, no attempts to center myself, none of that.

 A few weeks ago I started to get back on my spiritual path. I started doing yoga again, meditating, going to the Buddhist temple, and i'm feeling more at peace, more satisifed, less desire, less impulsiveness, less chaos in my head.

 It started with a Mescaline trip I went on about a month ago. Actually I went on 4 Mesc trips   By the end of them, I had really re-evaluated my life and I said to myself "what the fuck am I doing? I'm living the wrong life. I need to make some changes!"

 I feel like it's effecting my drive to lift weights in a negative way. Bodybuilding is basically a hedonistic and shallow pursuit honestly. Sure there is a spiritual side to it, but compared to other spiritual paths and techniques, it only scratches the surface. And my of the driving forces for lifting weights are shallow, getting pussy, intimidating and impressing guys, egomania, etc.

 I'm still lifting and havn't fallen off the wagon with my regimen at all. But my motivation is dying out. These days i'd rather focus on other things. But i'm gonna keep lifting, because I don't want to waste all my efforts for the past year.

 Sometimes when I look at bodybuilders and really big strong guys on this site, I realize that I don't want to be like them at all. They are not role models to me and they are not anything I would aspire to me myself. But when I look at spiritually enlightened and highly intelligent people I say to myself "That's what I wanna be."

 Lately i've just been wondering "Am I a fool for focusing on this bodybuilding shit? Should I drop this bodybuilding shit and get back on the spiritual path?"

 For now, I will try to work on both at the same time. We shall see how it gos.

You can do both I have myself, the ego is the main problem with Bodybuilding that has to be kept in check when when following the spirtual path. I think in summary you are saying the motivation drops off when getting back to spirtuality just try and keep them separate and realize you were given a body to keep in shape as well as the spirit.

[ShipSekki]

You can do both I have myself, the ego is the main problem with Bodybuilding that has to be kept in check when when following the spirtual path. I think in summary you are saying the motivation drops off when getting back to spirtuality just try and keep them separate and realize you were given a body to keep in shape as well as the spirit.

 I totally agree. Part of being spiritual is keeping your body in great shape. But I think the excerise regimen of a spiritual person is different than a bodybuilder. Most spiritual people do yoga, meditation, martial arts, and different kinds or cardio workouts or sports, but not really strength training so much.

 The main thing is diet I think. To me, this bodybuilding diet of bulking and eating tons of protien is not very spiritually conducive. Or it's more like, when i'm in a state of extreme spiritual training and inner peace, my desire to bulk up and grow my muscles disappears, and I just want to be healthy and feel good. I want to eat lighter an just have a clean system free from toxins.

 I think this bulking just sucks. I've been bulking for about 9 months and I gained about 36 pounds. And I feel like a fucking pig even though a lot of my gains have been muscle and i'm not that big yet. I've just been eating like a machine.

 I think i'll just ease up on the bulking a bit and up the cardio. Maybe i'll switch to a more low volume, HIT sort of training routine.

[newmom]

I am not saying to give up, but only compare yourself to yourself as far as strength-physique appearance goes. Who cares what a bunch of closet homos on a message board think?

Great Point

[Mr Nobody]

I totally agree. Part of being spiritual is keeping your body in great shape. But I think the excerise regimen of a spiritual person is different than a bodybuilder. Most spiritual people do yoga, meditation, martial arts, and different kinds or cardio workouts or sports, but not really strength training so much.

 The main thing is diet I think. To me, this bodybuilding diet of bulking and eating tons of protien is not very spiritually conducive. Or it's more like, when i'm in a state of extreme spiritual training and inner peace, my desire to bulk up and grow my muscles disappears, and I just want to be healthy and feel good. I want to eat lighter an just have a clean system free from toxins.

 I think this bulking just sucks. I've been bulking for about 9 months and I gained about 36 pounds. And I feel like a fucking pig even though a lot of my gains have been muscle and i'm not that big yet. I've just been eating like a machine.

 I think i'll just ease up on the bulking a bit and up the cardio. Maybe i'll switch to a more low volume, HIT sort of training routine.

Try HIT thats the way I train Mentzer/Dorian style free's your time up for your spritual persuits I combined yoga and meditation with HIT. Diet you dont have to eat huge amounts of meat use other sources just my thoughts.

[ShipSekki]

Try HIT thats the way I train Mentzer/Dorian style free's your time up for your spritual persuits I combined yoga and meditation with HIT. Diet you dont have to eat huge amounts of meat use other sources just my thoughts.

 Good idea, i'll go for it.

 I used to just eat a really light diet with tons for vegetables and very very clean foods. For a while I was a vegetarian too. And when you eat clean like that and drink tons of tea and water you feel great. But thats also why my weight dropped down to 130. And on top of that I was doing tons of cardio and other exercise.

 Now i'm eating tons of meat and eggs and potatoes and other shit like that and I feel like a greaseball.

 I'll keep on making changes and find the right path. It's all about finding the middle path. I don't wanna drop down to 130 again, but I also don't have to go all out with the bulking like I have been doing.

[Mr Nobody]

Good idea, i'll go for it.

 I used to just eat a really light diet with tons for vegetables and very very clean foods. For a while I was a vegetarian too. And when you eat clean like that and drink tons of tea and water you feel great. But thats also why my weight dropped down to 130. And on top of that I was doing tons of cardio and other exercise.

 Now i'm eating tons of meat and eggs and potatoes and other shit like that and I feel like a greaseball.

 I'll keep on making changes and find the right path. It's all about finding the middle path. I don't wanna drop down to 130 again, but I also don't have to go all out with the bulking like I have been doing.

Just keep the carlories up on the positive side and you should be fine, beans and rice is a good complex protein source, tofu is good as well. Lower the meat intake you are good to go.

[SF1900]

"There are no facts, only interpretations." Friedrich Nietzsche

"Truth is subjectivity." Soren Kierkegaard

[Mr Nobody]

"There are no facts, only interpretations." Friedrich Nietzsche

"Truth is subjectivity." Soren Kierkegaard

Nietzsche was a great philosopher.