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UK Welfare State = Family Breakdown, Emasculated Men
« on: June 03, 2010, 08:48:24 AM »
UK Welfare State = Family Breakdown, Emasculated Men

June 3, 2010
ukunemployed.jpgWelfare has replaced the provider, "creating a glut of unemployed, unwanted, unmarriageable men."

by Camilla Cavendish
May 28, 2010




http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/camilla_cavendish/article7138520.ece

In declaring war yesterday on both poverty and the benefits system, Iain Duncan Smith had it right. If the Government is going to make real inroads into the deficit it will have to tackle the nearly £200 billion ($300 billion) welfare budget, which is a third of government spending. This week's £6 billion of cuts was only Round 1: £6 billion is only 1 per cent of government expenditure, so this was a warm-up.
 

But the argument for welfare reform is not just one of affordability. In too many cases, welfare has entrenched poverty. ... Gordon Brown made life more bearable for many people on benefits, but he also made it harder to escape from them. Get a job tomorrow earning between £10,000 and £30,000 a year and you'll take home only 30p out of every extra pound you earn after the first £10,000....

The fear of losing benefits -- of not being able to scramble back on to the lifeboat if you fall off -- is a huge disincentive to change your circumstances, let alone report them.

One-in-seven working-age households is dependent on benefits for more than half its income. More than half of all single parents depend on the State for at least half their income.

William Beveridge would be horrified to discover that the safety net he designed has become a trap, creating generations of worklessness and dwindling self-esteem. It is also creating a glut of unemployed, unwanted, unmarriageable men.
Immigration reduced the opportunities available to white British men whose poor education made them less attractive candidates, while the benefits system undermined their motivation.


The problem affects the whole of society because of the striking correlation between male joblessness and single motherhood, particularly in the old industrial cities.

In Liverpool, male unemployment rose from 12 per cent in 1971 to 30 per cent in 2001. In 1971 11 per cent of families were headed by a single parent; by 2001, 45 per cent were.

Similar patterns can be seen in Birmingham, Strathclyde and Newcastle. The epidemic of male joblessness after the collapse of manufacturing industries coincided with an increase in female employment and welfare support to mothers who found that they could manage alone.

Overlooked by society, irrelevant to employers, unwanted by women who can raise families on benefits without their help, the man who has no work or a series of short-term jobs is a problem.

Without steady work, he will struggle to acquire a family: unemployed men are less likely to marry or cohabit than employed ones. Without a stable relationship, he is less likely to grow into a good family man and raise good sons.


The taxpayer has become the father: one in four mothers is single and more than half live on welfare. A lot of these women describe the real fathers of their children as "useless" or worse. The men have no role.

In the worst cases, the State has helped to create a class of jobless serial boyfriends who prey on single mothers on benefits. When two of these men moved into the flat that Haringey Council had generously provided for Tracey Connelly, Baby P's mother, the little boy's fate was sealed. They killed him.

Other such men appear in bit parts in tragedies such as that of Shannon Matthews, abducted and drugged by her own "family". The welfare system has helped to deprive these children of the most effective check on abuse -- the family.

Robert Rowthorn, Professor of Economics at Cambridge, has shown that female and male worklessness have been going in opposite directions for 30 years, well before this latest "mancession".

His research suggests that half the rise in lone parenthood in the past 30 years may be due to male unemployment. He believes that governments must start to focus on these men, and question the feminisation of education and the workplace.

It is no solution, he says, to say that women don't need men or that men should become more female. Nor is it any good waiting for economic growth to dig them out of poverty. Those men need a chance, not a benefits system that undermines them.


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Re: UK Welfare State = Family Breakdown, Emasculated Men
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2010, 08:55:24 AM »
Three generations ... all of them single mothers: Growth of extended 'man-free' families who rely on state handouts

By Steve Doughty
Last updated at 9:58 AM on 4th March 2010

   
Single motherhood has stretched through the generations to produce extended families without men.

Grandmothers, mothers and daughters now live without husbands or fathers and rely on the state for support, a study found yesterday.

Three-generation single mother families where no one works and which contain no men are now common, according to the analysis by researcher Geoff Dench.

The spread of the extended single-parent family was tracked through the findings of the British Social Attitudes survey which has followed families and their opinions each year for almost 30 years.

It showed that more than half of grandmothers who do not have a husband or male partner themselves are likely to have daughters who are also single mothers.

The 53 per cent recorded in 2008 was up from 44 per cent over a decade.

'Single parenthood was the last thing I wanted for my own daughter': A family of lone mothers reveal their story



Great grandmother Jane Hutchinson and her daughter Pauline (pictured top left with Kayleigh and baby Sarah) were both lone parents through unhappy circumstance. But Pauline's daughter Kayleigh chose single motherhood after getting pregnant as a teenager.

Kayleigh Watson spent several months trying to have a baby and at the age of 17 gave birth to Sarah. A second baby, Emma, arrived two years later. Now 21 and living on benefits in a council house, Kayleigh, from Newcastle, said: 'People always seem to imagine that teenage pregnancies must be disastrous accidents.

'It might shock some people, but by the time I was 16, I wanted a baby of my own so much that I was prepared to be a single mum.'People might say "Oh, she just had a baby to get a house", but I never even thought about getting benefits.'

The father of Kayleigh's children, David, still lives nearby and helps look after his daughters. Initially, Kayleigh's mother and grandmother were devastated to learn of the first pregnancy. Pauline Watson, 47, works in sales. She 'married for life' at the age of 20 but her marriage fell apart in the 1980s and she looked after her daughter alone. 'Having known the heartache of single parenthood, it was the last thing I wanted for my own daughter,' she said.

Jane Hutchinson, 79, Kayleigh's grandmother, became pregnant at 16 by a local car mechanic and was sent in shame to a home for unmarried pregnant girls. Three years later she married and had three children including Pauline, but later divorced. She said: 'When Kayleigh announced she was having a baby and had already wilfully split from the father, I was shocked and disappointed.

'I do feel women don't try hard enough with their relationships. I also feel that too many young girls simply see getting pregnant as a way of gaining a council flat and benefits. Maybe I'm old fashioned but I still feel babies need a mother and father.'

The findings, published by the centreright Centre For Policy Studies think-tank, added to growing concern over 'broken Britain' and the links between broken families, benefit dependency, poverty and crime.

They follow a report by Mr Dench last week which showed that 57 per cent of single parents have never lived with a male partner and so had made lone motherhood a lifestyle choice. One in four families is now headed by a single mother.

Mr Dench, a fellow of the Young Foundation research group, said: 'This has far-reaching effects.

'A lone mother with conventional parents has a lot of contact through them with mainstream society.

'But three-generational lone mother families  -  extended families without men  -  are developing a new family sub-culture which involves little paid work by mothers or grandmothers.

'They are taking support and services from other sectors without contributing very much in return,' Mr Dench said, adding that such families were 'in the last analysis parasitic on the rest of society with more conventional families'.

According to the study, 15 per cent of grandmothers were without a husband or partner in 2008 compared with 9 per cent in 1998. Among grandmothers under the age of 55, more than a quarter lived alone.

 
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In the case of lone grandmothers, 53 per cent had daughters who were themselves single mothers.

The report said: 'If more than half of the daughters of lone grandmothers are now lone mothers themselves, then to put it bluntly we are now in a phase of growth.'

More than half of single mothers whose mothers were still alive lived on state benefits, the report found.

Mr Dench said: 'Single mothers do not seem very interested in working.

'Traditionally they would not have been able to do this without finding male partners and motivating them to help as family providers.

'But the welfare state has changed all that, by stepping in as a direct provider itself, rendering many potentially helpful men redundant in the process.'

Children of single parents are statistically more likely than others to suffer poor health, do badly at school, fall into trouble with authorities and the police, and become unemployed or single mothers themselves.

Despite the new evidence that the majority of single mothers have chosen that status rather than being plunged into it by divorce, separation or widowhood, Labour's Deputy Leader Harriet Harman said yesterday that it would be cruel to bring in tax breaks for married couples.

She told the Commons that Tory plans for marriage tax breaks 'will not encourage one single couple to get married or to make them happy in their marriage'.

She added: 'But it does send  -  and I think this is why it's cruel  -  because it sends a very clear message to children in families where the parents are divorced. It says to them: "There's something wrong with your family therefore there must be something wrong with you".

'And that's another reason why we will never introduce it.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1255288/Three-generations---single-mothers-Growth-extended-man-free-families-rely-state-handouts.html#ixzz0po0da0NP
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Re: UK Welfare State = Family Breakdown, Emasculated Men
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2010, 09:14:28 AM »
Funny you posted this considering you bash anyone like myself who wants to cut welfare for people in the USA. 

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Re: UK Welfare State = Family Breakdown, Emasculated Men
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2010, 09:18:09 AM »
Interesting read but yes the British Dole system has been doing this decades
In fact that is how the band UB40 met that is the name of the un employment form you have to fill in  :)

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« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2010, 09:36:03 AM »
Funny you posted this considering you bash anyone like myself who wants to cut welfare for people in the USA. 

3 you are either spending WAAAAAAAAY too much time on these boards or you have me confused with someone else. I have never bashed anyone who said cut welfare in america. I have made you all painfully aware of the make up of the welfare role in america: 88 percent WHITE FEMALES. I have roared about corporate welfare and how you guys, with you in particular, trashing and condemning the innocent people who end up on welfare, mean time CORPORATE WELFARE is more than FIVE TIMES what is paid out to people. And this CORPORATE WELFARE goes to companies like Monsanto, DOW, DuPont, General Electric etc etc...ALL VERY LUCRATIVE COMPANIES. America at this time has about half of its population on food stamps, which is shameful, MILLIONS unemployed, yet a part of the plan is to reduce income and standing of its citizens down to nothing....You honestly think the Mexicans just walked into america? Ha, they were brought in and allowed in to kill the high salaried jobs like construction, electricians, plumbers, laborers, carpenters, truck drivers etc etc. Eastern europeans, Arabs, Indians, Chinese etc etc as nurses, doctors, engineers, scientist etc etc to bring down the salaries of those jobs. Before it is all over you will all be on WELFARE...as it allows your government COMPLETE CONTROL OVER YOU.

These articles I posted show that what is going on in america ...is going on in Britain as they too are forcing people onto welfare, breaking up homes, multi generation on the "dole", importing cheap labor from Pakistan, India, Middle East countries, China etc etc all in an attempt to reduce the income and financial standing of the people.
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Re: UK Welfare State = Family Breakdown, Emasculated Men
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2010, 08:32:24 PM »
SAMSON ENTERPRISES DIATRIBES on here are so confusing and logically incoherent that I doubt he/she knows or understands their own point of view.