Most Agree - Brock Lesnar was impressive!

[Earl1972]

Nice try Earl.  There is a big difference between beating Chuck Liddell or Cro-Cop in their prime, vs. beating them now.  Someone can be an elite fighter one day, and a complete can the next.  You know that, right?

but if arlovski and sylvia are cans just because they have losses outside of the ufc, wouldn't carwin be the same if he lost outside of ufc?

what if carwin loses his next fight, does that make brock look bad?

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[MindSpin]

but if arlovski and sylvia are cans just because they have losses outside of the ufc, wouldn't carwin be the same if he lost outside of ufc?

what if carwin loses his next fight, does that make brock look bad?

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If Carwin lost 2-3 straight fights against weaker opponents, that would make Brock's win less impressive. 

[WeightPSHR]

but if arlovski and sylvia are cans just because they have losses outside of the ufc, wouldn't carwin be the same if he lost outside of ufc?

what if carwin loses his next fight, does that make brock look bad?

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Lots of variables here, but most likely yes. Plus, Carwin has never had a loss, hard to say how it will affect him.

But if he does drops a few fights inside or outside of the UFC, it would diminish Brocks win.

[Earl1972]

ok

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[AC Slater]

was talking to a guy next to me at the gym today in between sets who watched the fight.  he said brock got his ass beat, and i agree.  if that fight happened on the streets or the schoolyard, everyone would be saying brock got his ass beat.

[WeightPSHR]

was talking to a guy next to me at the gym today in between sets who watched the fight.  he said brock got his ass beat, and i agree.  if that fight happened on the streets or the schoolyard, everyone would be saying brock got his ass beat.

You are entitled to your opinion, but the REALITY is that Brock had his hand raised at the end to the fight.

This is not the schoolyard or WWE.

[AC Slater]

You are entitled to your opinion, but the REALITY is that Brock had his hand raised at the end to the fight.

This is not the schoolyard or WWE.

it is looking awfully close to the WWE as of late.

[gmflex]

You are entitled to your opinion, but the REALITY is that Brock had his hand raised at the end to the fight.

This is not the schoolyard or WWE.

 

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[MindSpin]

You are entitled to your opinion, but the REALITY is that Brock had his hand raised at the end to the fight.

This is not the schoolyard or WWE.

Had this happened in a school yard, Brock could have killed Carwin by any way he chose after putting him to sleep. There's not tapping out in a real fight

[Mrdibbs]

My grandmother could have submitted Carwin in the second round.  Getting a punch thrown at you, running away, followed by throwing yourself on the ground in a turtle shell and getting raped for 4minutes is not impressive.  The head arm choke is one of the first chokes I learned in BJJ, Chris Lytle got robbed for sub of the night.

Jup you probably know how to get out of one as well. Is it really realistic to believe that a purple belt in Shane is not able to get out of this beginner sub (He doesnt even try though he has is arms and legs free)?

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[WeightPSHR]

Jup you probably know how to get out of one as well. Is it really realistic to believe that a purple belt in Shane is not able to get out of this beginner sub (He doesnt even try though he has is arms and legs free)?

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Have you considered Carwin was gassed a could not breathe as it was before the choke.

[Mrdibbs]

Have you considered Carwin was gassed a could not breathe as it was before the choke.

Yeah he really seemed super gassed walking back to his seat after round 1 and eyeblinking brock in round 2.

Shut yourself off of the indoctrination, Carwin runs god knows how many kilometers each day. He was simply not too gassed to move his legs.

Even Vladimir Voronov says he threw the fight.

Then the Dana White crap that Carwin was send to the hospital hyperventilating in panick while you just see him talking to his team back stage, GTFO.

All fraud. UFC = WWF

[Earl1972]

Had this happened in a school yard, Brock could have killed Carwin by any way he chose after putting him to sleep. There's not tapping out in a real fight

it never would've gotten to that point

you know every time a fight breaks out in public it is broken up before it can go a full 5 minute ufc round

if it were junior high, shane carwin would be the alpha dog on the school grounds and all the kids would be saying "did you see brock get his ass kicked"

brock would bow his head every time he saw him in school

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[gmflex]

QFT   

[FREAKgeek]

Well said.  The guys stands for everything I dislike in fighters.  He is cocky & disrespectful.  And he wins, not because  of his great skill, but because of his raw power.

That said, he does have amazing cardio for a guy that big, he has shown that he is very durable, and with every fight, his skills only get better.  Other than a freak punch on the button, I can't imagine anyone who can stop him at this point.

why isn't brock gassing in all that suit of muscle, mind?

[WeightPSHR]

Yeah he really seemed super gassed walking back to his seat after round 1 and eyeblinking brock in round 2.

Shut yourself off of the indoctrination, Carwin runs god knows how many kilometers each day. He was simply not too gassed to move his legs.

Even Vladimir Voronov says he threw the fight.

Then the Dana White crap that Carwin was send to the hospital hyperventilating in panick while you just see him talking to his team back stage, GTFO.

All fraud. UFC = WWF

Oh Brother.....

[MindSpin]

why isn't brock gassing in all that suit of muscle, mind?

Because Brock's body naturally carries all of that weight without having to train for size.  Brock trains for explosiveness and conditioning and still manages to be a 270lbs. freak.  If Brock had as much muscle on his frame as he had when he was in the WWE, he too would be gassing fast.

Carwin, has trained hard to put on all of the muscle that he is carrying around.  If he were to train like Borck, Carwin would probably drop 15-20 lbs. and drastically improve his conditioning.  And, he would still have sick KO power...

[HICKSON]

Because Brock's body naturally carries all of that weight without having to train for size.  Brock trains for explosiveness and conditioning and still manages to be a 270lbs. freak.  If Brock had as much muscle on his frame as he had when he was in the WWE, he too would be gassing fast.

Carwin, has trained hard to put on all of the muscle that he is carrying around.  If he were to train like Borck, Carwin would probably drop 15-20 lbs. and drastically improve his conditioning.  And, he would still have sick KO power...

Very true.