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Mark Madden's Latest TNA Rant:
« on: August 25, 2010, 02:59:16 PM »
As usual with Madden's columns, there are some points I agree with, some I disagree with, and some that I feel are hypocrytical. Most interesting is the number of times he references his source as "one TNA employee." Kind of makes you wonder if it is the same employee making ALL of these comments (not that it matters), and if you've ever listened to Mark's shows, he does tend to drop the same former-WCW names with some regularity, which seems to narrow things down a bit.


For a woman who loves to throw around words like “family” and “loyalty,” Dixie Carter has created low morale and plenty of dysfunction at TNA via the continuing push of EV2.

Dixie’s “family” is upset by lack of “loyalty” to them when it comes to handing TNA over to has-beens who can’t draw.

Among the complaints:

*Tommy Dreamer having major creative input. “Dreamer’s walking around backstage proposing ideas: ‘Hey, would you do this? Would you be interested in doing that?’ He’s not Paul Heyman, but Dixie seems to think he is,” said one TNA employee.

*Ex-world champ RVD being just another “extreme” guy (and him being stupid enough to somehow think that’s good). “Van Dam’s conceit is unreal,” said one TNA employee. “He’s a mid-card guy.”

*Mick Foley switching bandwagons yet again.

*EV2’s “look” (or lack thereof). When Flair cut his promo on EV2, said one TNA employee, “He killed ‘em, but he didn’t need to. Those guys just look ridiculous, especially standing in a group. They’re not stars, never were stars, and don’t look like stars. When those guys are all in the same camera shot, it looks like cable access wrestling.”

*The EV2 angle being prolonged. “It was supposed to be a night of nostalgia. Now it’s our main program,” said one TNA employee. A rumored War Games match between EV2 and Fortune draws particular derision: “Wait until the guys who don’t look like wrestlers beat the guys who do.”

*Dixie’s attitude that the EV2 guys have paid their dues. “They didn’t pay ‘em here,” said one TNA employee. “They paid ‘em at a company that went bankrupt."

*EV2’s revival of the “extreme” style is unpopular. “Turn on ESPN, all you see is doctors talking about the danger of concussions,” said one TNA employee. “Those idiots are doing unprotected chairshots, which means we’re all expected to.” Said another TNA employee, “Their style made wrestling more dangerous for all of us.”

Hostility toward EV2 is said to be promotion-wide. Morale at TNA is said to be near an all-time low.

Maybe Team 3-D can let some sunshine in…by leaving.

Few wrestlers are as universally reviled as Brother Ray and Brother D-von. Arrogant far beyond their abilities and accomplishments, dangerous to work with, clumsy, bad look, convoluted moves – no one in TNA would miss Team 3-D. WWE doesn’t want them back.

As one of wrestling’s major players told me a few years ago, “They think they’re one of the best tag teams in wrestling history. But they’re an awful lot closer to being the worst. When the fat black guy crabs (strikes a bodybuilding pose), I don’t know whether to laugh or vomit.”

In a recent blog, Mick Foley heavily criticized Wrestling Observer Newsletter editor Dave Meltzer for unduly knocking Foley’s promos. That’s typical Mick: When Meltzer thinks Foley's good, he’s right. When Meltzer doesn’t, he’s wrong. If you like Mick, Mick likes you.

One thing’s certain: Foley’s not as good at his job as Meltzer is at his.

Credit where it’s due: Mick did a lot with a little. Made good money. But talk about a guy who made the business more dangerous.

And geez, Foley’s anti-Meltzer rant went on FOREVER. Methinks thou dost protest too much.

Mark Madden hosts a radio show 3-6 p.m. weekdays on WXDX-FM, Pittsburgh. Check out the Mark Madden page at WXDX.com. Contact Mark via wzmarkmadden@hotmail.com.

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Re: Mark Madden's Latest TNA Rant:
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2010, 06:14:07 AM »
He's actually right on about 90% of those rants. Spot on right. Alot can be said for WWE talant that are arrogant backstage and go around trying to propse ideas.

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Re: Mark Madden's Latest TNA Rant:
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2010, 01:57:41 PM »
What do you think about the comment that RVD is a "mid-card guy?"

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Re: Mark Madden's Latest TNA Rant:
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2010, 03:24:34 PM »
What do you think about the comment that RVD is a "mid-card guy?"

He's got big time talent as a performer and a good look, but has no personality or mic skills.

How would you catagorize a guy like that?

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Re: Mark Madden's Latest TNA Rant:
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2010, 03:33:52 PM »
I think his ring skills alone place him a bit higher than mere mid-card status, but that’s just my opinion.
Yeah, his mic work could be better, but so could that of a lot of guys - both past & present.

The bottom line is, he could pop a crowd.
Fans dug him, his t-shirts sold, and he worked some good, main-event programs.
I don’t know what he’s like now because I haven’t watched either show in months.

I just wouldn't simply dismiss him as a mid-carder; particularly with the current crop of talent who generates apathy & indifference from the crowd more than anything.


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Re: Mark Madden's Latest TNA Rant:
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2010, 08:20:25 AM »
I think his ring skills alone place him a bit higher than mere mid-card status, but that’s just my opinion.
Yeah, his mic work could be better, but so could that of a lot of guys - both past & present.

The bottom line is, he could pop a crowd.
Fans dug him, his t-shirts sold, and he worked some good, main-event programs.
I don’t know what he’s like now because I haven’t watched either show in months.

I just wouldn't simply dismiss him as a mid-carder; particularly with the current crop of talent who generates apathy & indifference from the crowd more than anything.


You have to look at it this way. Would you shell out 60 bucks for a ticket to see RVD in a main event? There is no wrong answer. Its more of an individual preference. I myself like RVD, but he is by far no more than a really good mid-carder to me.

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Re: Mark Madden's Latest TNA Rant:
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2010, 11:52:56 AM »
I think many fans consider him to be at either "the bottom of the top," or "the top of the middle."


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Re: Mark Madden's Latest TNA Rant:
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2010, 12:14:05 PM »
I think many fans consider him to be at either "the bottom of the top," or "the top of the middle."


I would fairly say he's a little more than mid.

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Re: Mark Madden's Latest TNA Rant:
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2010, 01:09:51 PM »
I think that's fair.

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Re: Mark Madden's Latest TNA Rant:
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2010, 05:02:59 PM »
Pretty much agree with all of it..It's pitiful to see all these fat has beens try to "recreate" shitty hardcore wrestling. I would bet that 85% of the crowd never saw an ECW show. TNA once again gave the finger to the long time talent in order to get a small bump in ratings. This company should be so much more. I honestly never liked RVD, he got reactions but almost anyone from that period of 98-02 got reactions. I don't think he's a midcarder, but he shouldn't have been a multi time world champ like a lot of smarks suggest. The only weird thing is, this is the first time i've ever heard someone say bad stuff about Devon. Bubba is always portrayed as an asshole.

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Re: Mark Madden's Latest TNA Rant:
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2010, 07:47:04 AM »
Pretty much agree with all of it..It's pitiful to see all these fat has beens try to "recreate" shitty hardcore wrestling. I would bet that 85% of the crowd never saw an ECW show. TNA once again gave the finger to the long time talent in order to get a small bump in ratings. This company should be so much more. I honestly never liked RVD, he got reactions but almost anyone from that period of 98-02 got reactions. I don't think he's a midcarder, but he shouldn't have been a multi time world champ like a lot of smarks suggest. The only weird thing is, this is the first time i've ever heard someone say bad stuff about Devon. Bubba is always portrayed as an asshole.

I really liked RVD's inwork stuff in ECW....but he needed Alphonso to really get him over by being his mouthpiece. 

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Re: Mark Madden's Latest TNA Rant:
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2010, 12:15:28 PM »
I still say Bubba Dudley takes the best chair shot in the business.

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Re: Mark Madden's Latest TNA Rant:
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2010, 12:18:22 PM »
I really liked RVD's inwork stuff in ECW....but he needed Alphonso to really get him over by being his mouthpiece. 
Maybe i am bias so thats clouding my opinion. i never cared for him.

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Re: Mark Madden's Latest TNA Rant:
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2010, 04:22:13 PM »
Maybe i am bias so thats clouding my opinion. i never cared for him.


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