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Re: Track n Field Throwers = Beasts
« Reply #75 on: November 05, 2010, 09:38:07 AM »

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Re: Track n Field Throwers = Beasts
« Reply #76 on: November 05, 2010, 09:40:50 AM »

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Re: Track n Field Throwers = Beasts
« Reply #77 on: November 05, 2010, 10:11:06 AM »
The Gunthör stuff is cool.
I remember stumbling upon it on accident and watching all parts... I was impressed with the agility and strength.
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Re: Track n Field Throwers = Beasts
« Reply #78 on: November 05, 2010, 10:23:55 AM »
The Gunthör stuff is cool.
I remember stumbling upon it on accident and watching all parts... I was impressed with the agility and strength.

That dude was a real monster.  Looks like a Tight End or Line Backer in the NFL, but I think he weighted 280 or something like that.  .

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Re: Track n Field Throwers = Beasts
« Reply #79 on: November 05, 2010, 10:31:10 AM »
Another thing that has changed in the last few years is that brute strength isn't as important as it once was. The guys are still brutally strong, but more effort is put into event training now.

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Re: Track n Field Throwers = Beasts
« Reply #80 on: November 05, 2010, 10:38:46 AM »
Another thing that has changed in the last few years is that brute strength isn't as important as it once was. The guys are still brutally strong, but more effort is put into event training now.


you mean as in more specificity?  like a shot putter training more with shotput-specific movements instead of focusing on a lot of full-body strength training?

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Re: Track n Field Throwers = Beasts
« Reply #81 on: November 05, 2010, 10:57:01 AM »

you mean as in more specificity?  like a shot putter training more with shotput-specific movements instead of focusing on a lot of full-body strength training?

True - but is Nelson and Hoffa were big juicers they would definately not look like that. 

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Re: Track n Field Throwers = Beasts
« Reply #82 on: November 05, 2010, 11:07:20 AM »

you mean as in more specificity?  like a shot putter training more with shotput-specific movements instead of focusing on a lot of full-body strength training?

Yes, it's moving more to a "if you want to get good at xyz, then practice xyz" type thing.  Much more focus is put on training for the actual sport now.

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Re: Track n Field Throwers = Beasts
« Reply #83 on: November 05, 2010, 11:13:01 AM »
nice videos, I was a pole vaulter.  I miss those days.

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Re: Track n Field Throwers = Beasts
« Reply #84 on: November 05, 2010, 11:29:41 AM »


psycho trainee. what's unusual is it actually worked for him. constitution of a horse!

Might not look it but he was listed at 6'6" , 309 lbs

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Re: Track n Field Throwers = Beasts
« Reply #85 on: November 05, 2010, 01:02:19 PM »
Damn - having been around Throwers most of my life - most of these guys have real animal strength. 

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Re: Track n Field Throwers = Beasts
« Reply #86 on: November 05, 2010, 06:52:29 PM »
being as tall as these fellow athletes i can attest for aiming to be the heaviest you be as possible is key to strenght, and no so much worrying about training splits but simply eating to be stronger
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Re: Track n Field Throwers = Beasts
« Reply #87 on: November 08, 2010, 11:03:59 AM »
being as tall as these fellow athletes i can attest for aiming to be the heaviest you be as possible is key to strenght, and no so much worrying about training splits but simply eating to be stronger

Its also a lot of technique. 

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Re: Track n Field Throwers = Beasts
« Reply #88 on: November 08, 2010, 01:31:11 PM »
Keith Jones claims he threw the discus 196 feet which is just shy of 60 meters. If you can throw half the world record you did well! That would be something like 37 metres. Believe me you need to be an athlete to do this. 150 feet is still a long way to throw a  4.4 pounds or 2 kg discus. There are competitions for older athletes in the masters division and when you are over 50 you throw 1.5 kg and then over 60 it is down to 1 kg which is what the women throw at the Olympics. You would think the 1 kg would go really far but that doesn't happen. If you look at the videos of the discus throwers you will see that they all turn in a similar fashion then explode near the end. This looks easy but it is very difficult to master. Some champions have been over 40. Al Oerter for example. If you are of average height you are unlikely to throw more than 55 metres. That is still a long way to throw. When you hold a 2 kg discus it feels big in the hand. So those really tall guys with big hands and long arms have a huge advantage when it comes to throwing. You need a lot of speed then explosive capacity to be a good discus thrower. My best with the 2 kg was 44.16 meters.

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Re: Track n Field Throwers = Beasts
« Reply #89 on: November 08, 2010, 03:29:45 PM »
Keith Jones claims he threw the discus 196 feet which is just shy of 60 meters. If you can throw half the world record you did well! That would be something like 37 metres. Believe me you need to be an athlete to do this. 150 feet is still a long way to throw a  4.4 pounds or 2 kg discus. There are competitions for older athletes in the masters division and when you are over 50 you throw 1.5 kg and then over 60 it is down to 1 kg which is what the women throw at the Olympics. You would think the 1 kg would go really far but that doesn't happen. If you look at the videos of the discus throwers you will see that they all turn in a similar fashion then explode near the end. This looks easy but it is very difficult to master. Some champions have been over 40. Al Oerter for example. If you are of average height you are unlikely to throw more than 55 metres. That is still a long way to throw. When you hold a 2 kg discus it feels big in the hand. So those really tall guys with big hands and long arms have a huge advantage when it comes to throwing. You need a lot of speed then explosive capacity to be a good discus thrower. My best with the 2 kg was 44.16 meters.
You need to edit yourself for wind  length, Vince.  ;)

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Re: Track n Field Throwers = Beasts
« Reply #90 on: November 08, 2010, 06:15:20 PM »
I thinkthe Hammer throw is the hardest of all to master. 

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Re: Track n Field Throwers = Beasts
« Reply #91 on: November 08, 2010, 06:32:27 PM »
Keith Jones claims he threw the discus 196 feet which is just shy of 60 meters. If you can throw half the world record you did well! That would be something like 37 metres. Believe me you need to be an athlete to do this. 150 feet is still a long way to throw a  4.4 pounds or 2 kg discus. There are competitions for older athletes in the masters division and when you are over 50 you throw 1.5 kg and then over 60 it is down to 1 kg which is what the women throw at the Olympics. You would think the 1 kg would go really far but that doesn't happen. If you look at the videos of the discus throwers you will see that they all turn in a similar fashion then explode near the end. This looks easy but it is very difficult to master. Some champions have been over 40. Al Oerter for example. If you are of average height you are unlikely to throw more than 55 metres. That is still a long way to throw. When you hold a 2 kg discus it feels big in the hand. So those really tall guys with big hands and long arms have a huge advantage when it comes to throwing. You need a lot of speed then explosive capacity to be a good discus thrower. My best with the 2 kg was 44.16 meters.
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Re: Track n Field Throwers = Beasts
« Reply #92 on: November 08, 2010, 06:37:47 PM »
The shot put is 16 pounds and heavy as hell when its in your hand. 

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Re: Track n Field Throwers = Beasts
« Reply #93 on: November 08, 2010, 07:29:43 PM »
The shot put is 16 pounds and heavy as hell when its in your hand. 

Is it heavier in your hand than out of it?

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Re: Track n Field Throwers = Beasts
« Reply #94 on: November 08, 2010, 08:04:24 PM »
Is it heavier in your hand than out of it?

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Re: Track n Field Throwers = Beasts
« Reply #95 on: November 08, 2010, 08:35:46 PM »
Keith Jones claims he threw the discus 196 feet which is just shy of 60 meters. If you can throw half the world record you did well! That would be something like 37 metres. Believe me you need to be an athlete to do this. 150 feet is still a long way to throw a  4.4 pounds or 2 kg discus. There are competitions for older athletes in the masters division and when you are over 50 you throw 1.5 kg and then over 60 it is down to 1 kg which is what the women throw at the Olympics. You would think the 1 kg would go really far but that doesn't happen. If you look at the videos of the discus throwers you will see that they all turn in a similar fashion then explode near the end. This looks easy but it is very difficult to master. Some champions have been over 40. Al Oerter for example. If you are of average height you are unlikely to throw more than 55 metres. That is still a long way to throw. When you hold a 2 kg discus it feels big in the hand. So those really tall guys with big hands and long arms have a huge advantage when it comes to throwing. You need a lot of speed then explosive capacity to be a good discus thrower. My best with the 2 kg was 44.16 meters.

The world record at the time was I think 243 or so.  Far from 300 feet.  I was just getting the spin down before moving to LA.  It was by far the hardest part.  I was 293 and my goal was to weigh 275.  I felt at that weight I could increase my speed alot and have better balance.  I had video camera which I played back and forth some discus thowers I taped from the TV at some college track meet and watched that while I was training.  My thing was to concentrate on technique first.  I did my strength throwing by standing on one end of the field and throwing all my discus's standing facing forward and using just hip rotation and knee bend.  I knew distance woudl come from the explosiveness from my hips and arms speed.  Also, getting the angle of release is super important.  I aslo knew being only 6'1" I would be about the shortest guy and that extra hegiht meant alot more torque.
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Re: Track n Field Throwers = Beasts
« Reply #96 on: November 08, 2010, 09:37:46 PM »
The shot put is 16 pounds and heavy as hell when its in your hand. 

What was very discouraging about the shot putt was I trained at the Y then.  EVeryday I went I would have to walk by the window that looked over the pool.  The pool was 75' in length.  That was the world record at the time for the discus.  When I saw how far that was everyday and saw how bad my distance was I knew I could no way come close to that.  I was barely getting 50' on a few times.  I was hanign around 42' to 45'.  I just could not get it.  So I stopped and concentrated on the discus.
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Re: Track n Field Throwers = Beasts
« Reply #97 on: November 09, 2010, 04:42:16 AM »
What was very discouraging about the shot putt was I trained at the Y then.  EVeryday I went I would have to walk by the window that looked over the pool.  The pool was 75' in length.  That was the world record at the time for the discus.  When I saw how far that was everyday and saw how bad my distance was I knew I could no way come close to that.  I was barely getting 50' on a few times.  I was hanign around 42' to 45'.  I just could not get it.  So I stopped and concentrated on the discus.

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