I was in the military with him overseas...last time I saw him he was stationed in Belgium...I doubt his natural status because he was bigger when he was overseas and alot more shredded...he was just on low doses IMO....If he hit the sauce like a pro...He'd be decent...BTW being in the military overseas, all I used to use was HG shit...3 dollar Norma decas vials 5 dollar Schering Sustanons...I'd get jacked from 500mg of Sust, 400 mg of deca and 50mg of naposim d-bol...I didn't have near the knowledge I do know about nutrition, training and supplementation...All I ate when I used to go on was chicken and rice...I wasn't getting near my money's worth...