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Secret Hidden Tax Provision within Obamacare
« on: November 15, 2010, 01:19:56 AM »
IRS 9006 is scheduled to take effect.

Congressman Dan Lungren has introduced Small Business Paperwork Mandate Elimination Act (H.R. 5141), a bill with 178 co-sponsors to repeal it, and Obama said on Nov 3rd that he was looking forward to working with representatives towards the repeal of 9006, ...but he's been a bit busy overseas these days.  :-\



In order to maintain privacy, one would be required to keep transactions below $600.oo
 
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Re: Secret Hidden Tax Provision within Obamacare
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2010, 04:51:55 AM »
Its no hidden Jag - I have posted dozens of threads on this subject. 

Its but another disgusting job killing regulation pased by Obama.   

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Re: Secret Hidden Tax Provision within Obamacare
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2010, 05:29:33 AM »
Its no hidden Jag - I have posted dozens of threads on this subject. 

Its but another disgusting job killing regulation pased by Obama.   

Were these threads where you actually discussed the provision, and it's potential impact on businesses,
...or were these "I hate Obama" he a pofs threads? I might have had a pavlovian response and skipped it.  ;D
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Re: Secret Hidden Tax Provision within Obamacare
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2010, 05:30:42 AM »
Were these threads where you actually discussed the provision, and it's potential impact on businesses,
...or were these "I hate Obama" he a pofs threads? I might have had a pavlovian response and skipped it.  ;D

I'll bump a few. 

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Re: Secret Hidden Tax Provision within Obamacare
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2010, 05:46:03 AM »
I'll bump a few. 

Please, ...not any of the Drinking with Bob one's?

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Re: Secret Hidden Tax Provision within Obamacare
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Re: Secret Hidden Tax Provision within Obamacare
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2010, 05:54:13 AM »
Please, ...not any of the Drinking with Bob one's?



Jag - I have so many articles on this mess.  Many are buried in my Obama killing the economy running thread.  I just bumped one though. 

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Re: Secret Hidden Tax Provision within Obamacare
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2010, 03:25:10 PM »
Senate blocks repeal of tax-filing requirement

By Stephen Ohlemacher, Associated Press   
Mon Nov 29, 9:47 pm ET

WASHINGTON – The Senate on Monday rejected an effort to reduce tax-related paperwork for businesses when lawmakers couldn't agree on whether they would make up the revenue the new requirement was expected to produce.

The filing requirement is part of President Barack Obama's health care overhaul but not related to health care itself. It is expected to help the government collect an estimated $19 billion in taxes on underreported income over the next decade, and that revenue has been slated to help pay for changes in the health care system.

Under the new law, nearly 40 million U.S. businesses would start filing tax forms in 2012 for every vendor that sells them more than $600 in goods. Many Democrats who supported the filing requirement now acknowledge that it would create a paperwork nightmare, but whether to make up for the lost revenue has divided senators who agree it should be repealed.

Senators tried twice on Monday to amend an unrelated food safety bill to repeal the filing requirement. Both proposals, one by Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., and another by Sen. Mike Johanns, R-Neb., failed to get the necessary two-thirds majority.

The Johanns amendment would make up the lost revenue by requiring the Obama administration to tap unspent money in various federal accounts.

"Billions of taxpayer dollars sit in unspent accounts and a very small percentage of those funds would give small businesses a much-needed break from the impending tax paperwork tsunami," Johanns said.

The Baucus proposal was not paid for. Democrats argued that the health care law would still reduce federal borrowing, even without the filing requirement.

The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office estimates that the new health care law will reduce federal budget deficits by $143 billion over the next decade. Repealing the filing requirement would mean smaller savings.

Businesses already must file Form 1099s with the IRS when they purchase more than $600 in services from a vendor in a year. The new provision would extend the requirement to the purchase of goods, starting in 2012.

The goal of the provision was to prevent vendors from underreporting their income to the Internal Revenue Service.

The filing requirement would hit about 38 million businesses, charities and tax-exempt organizations, many of them small businesses already swamped by government paperwork, according to a report by the National Taxpayer Advocate. It would also create an avalanche of paperwork that could strain the IRS itself, wrote the advocate, an independent watchdog within the IRS.

The House voted in July against repealing the requirement, when House members could not agree on how to make up the lost revenue.

The food safety bill would increase Food and Drug Administration inspections of food processing facilities, give the FDA power to order recalls of tainted products and require farmers and manufacturers to follow stricter standards for keeping food safe. Senators voted to move forward with the bill Monday and are expected to vote on final passage Tuesday.

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Associated Press writer Mary Clare Jalonick contributed to this report.

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Re: Secret Hidden Tax Provision within Obamacare
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2010, 05:43:30 PM »
Were these threads where you actually discussed the provision, and it's potential impact on businesses,
...or were these "I hate Obama" he a pofs threads? I might have had a pavlovian response and skipped it.  ;D
havent seen one liberal who wanted to talk about any legislation obama has passed and its effects on businesses...

ive said it many times obama has hindered the recovery of the economy 100x more than he has helped it

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Re: Secret Hidden Tax Provision within Obamacare
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2010, 06:15:16 PM »
We warned everyone so many times before they passed this farce. 

Now all of a suddent people like jag are seeing the truth of the matter. 

Too little too late.

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Re: Secret Hidden Tax Provision within Obamacare
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2010, 06:22:07 PM »
We warned everyone so many times before they passed this farce. 

Now all of a suddent people like jag are seeing the truth of the matter. 

Too little too late.

What do you mean all of a sudden?

I had my reservations about obama going back as early as Aug 2008, but what were the alternatives?

I have always been for Universal healthcare, ...but what they passed, was not imo universal healthcare.

If not for all the wasted time, astroturf and insurance company distractions, ...who knows what might have passed had there been real discussion from the start? Maybe that's wishful thinking, because if I remember, they had the numbers to simply ram through a single payer system, ...but instead chose to cater to the insurance industry. What an awful disappointment!
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Re: Secret Hidden Tax Provision within Obamacare
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2010, 06:26:22 PM »
What gets me is that they passed the worst of both worlds. 

I read that germany has a plan that costs half as does france. 

Yet doing nothing not only did we not really improve anything, but are making it more expensive on all levels and still having to deal with insurance carriers.

What lunacy. As much as I loathe the govt, I still can't believe they passed a mandate to carry health insurance wo at least a low cost option for basic insurance, be it public or private.

Just awful all around.