IFBB Pro Savolainen - is it possible without oil?

[jaejonna]

gotta find a pic of Zane for comparison...

Look in the Summer Olympics Freestyle or Backstroke

[geneticmarvel]

way to prove your point, posting a pic of the guy in his teens  



look here, his back got freakynglish bigger too since that time, was he injecting synthol in his lats too??


why is it that difficult to admit that some of these dudes actually are genectically gifted? (hormone abusers too, but gemectically gifted mofos nonetheless)

According to getbig, EVERYONE is either at or bellow average, and guess what einstein, this is mathematically impossible, lol

Guys arms look real to me. Seems around here if you have better arms than Flex, Levrone, Coleman or any of the top guys these days everyone calls sythol right away lol. I guess great biceps are impossible without it! 

[Van_Bilderass]

Of course its the truth. Its easy to tell Heath is fragile and fake just by looking at him. Probably only does curls with 45lb dumbells lol even with huge "arms" like that.

He said he doesn't train arms at all. Hany told him not to! Because his arms get too big!  

I guess he just injects them on a daily basis, no need to train at all. Might get too big.

All synthetic.

Guys arms look real to me. Seems around here if you have better arms than Flex, Levrone, Coleman or any of the top guys these days everyone calls sythol right away lol. I guess great biceps are impossible without it! 

You're just playing stupid right?

[JP_RC]

Guys arms look real to me. Seems around here if you have better arms than Flex, Levrone, Coleman or any of the top guys these days everyone calls sythol right away lol. I guess great biceps are impossible without it! 

Well, not everyone is a "genetic marvel" like you..

[geneticmarvel]

Well, not everyone is a "genetic marvel" like you..

I spoke too soon. I just looked at those close up pics and I guess you guys are right, theres def something going on there my bad.

[dyslexic]

I spoke too soon. I just looked at those close up pics and I guess you guys are right, theres def something going on there my bad.

People shouldn't even have to look so close.

[dustin]

I met a few guys who hung around the scene for a long ass time and they told me all the about the progression of the oil era. It really is an art. You see guys like Kevin and Heath really up the doses and the oils around contest time. It's no problem for them though, they do it properly and it looks really good. They've got some of the best arms of all time and are a couple of my favorite lifters. They tolerate the drugs very well and respond to them equally well. All people focus on is the fuck ups with oil bags for bodyparts. If your oil use is distinguishable or even marginally questionable, you're doing it wrong and need to massage the muscle, let the oil dissipate and allow the inflammation to come down and blend in again. All our favorite pros from the last decade use oil or at least practice site injecting. If you're gonna put fuckloads of oil in your muscle, might as well do so proportionately and use it as another tool.

I always thought Heath was pretty synthetic though, but very genetically blessed as well. I'm a fan of his. It sucks that he's narrow but he's taking his God given genetics and pushed it to the max due to his amazing response to drugs. He also rolls with guys like Jay who are deep in the game and steering him in the right directions. You have to admit, he's played ABSOLUTELY EVERY CARD PERFECTLY!!! But I've always wondered what'd happen when he gets sick. I mean, really sick. Rejecting the drugs, crashed CNS and SNS, liver and kidneys failing to hold up, etc... poor fella would probably loose a lot of muscle and I'm sure he knows it. He's on mad GH and insulin which even a fag at bodybuilding.com can eyeball (the transformation was stupidly amazing), and I'm thinking he probably has more of a solid base with those drugs in the mix. But I'm sure he'd probably lose a lot of muscle because his foundation is primarily drugs. I sincerely hope he doesn't get sick though because I wouldn't want to see this.

Phil does seem pretty maxed out though. It will be years before he gets the density that guys like the Blade have. For a bloofy guy, I think Phil has an amazing physique with muscles that really pop out and look cartoonish. Again, the guy is fucking blessed. He works hard, responds well to the drugs and keeps doing everything correctly. I'd like to see him get more striated and keep doing all he can to create the illusion of having more width. I'm not a pro by any stretch but even a gym rat like myself has a pretty wide ass back all things considered. Not saying I'm better than Phil in the least, but for my structure and proportion it feels pretty good to be wide as shit, especially when viewed from the back. Having width from the back is something that'll garner admiration from all the juice heads in the gym, and for Mr. O competitors you get to take home Sandows.


Only thing I want to correct gh15 on though is he called bodybuilding a sport earlier. Everything else, I bow to him.

[Parker]

I met a few guys who hung around the scene for a long ass time and they told me all the about the progression of the oil era. It really is an art. You see guys like Kevin and Heath really up the doses and the oils around contest time. It's no problem for them though, they do it properly and it looks really good. They've got some of the best arms of all time and are a couple of my favorite lifters. They tolerate the drugs very well and respond to them equally well. All people focus on is the fuck ups with oil bags for bodyparts. If your oil use is distinguishable or even marginally questionable, you're doing it wrong and need to massage the muscle, let the oil dissipate and allow the inflammation to come down and blend in again. All our favorite pros from the last decade use oil or at least practice site injecting. If you're gonna put fuckloads of oil in your muscle, might as well do so proportionately and use it as another tool.

I always thought Heath was pretty synthetic though, but very genetically blessed as well. I'm a fan of his. It sucks that he's narrow but he's taking his God given genetics and pushed it to the max due to his amazing response to drugs. He also rolls with guys like Jay who are deep in the game and steering him in the right directions. You have to admit, he's played ABSOLUTELY EVERY CARD PERFECTLY!!! But I've always wondered what'd happen when he gets sick. I mean, really sick. Rejecting the drugs, crashed CNS and SNS, liver and kidneys failing to hold up, etc... poor fella would probably loose a lot of muscle and I'm sure he knows it. He's on mad GH and insulin which even a fag at bodybuilding.com can eyeball (the transformation was stupidly amazing), and I'm thinking he probably has more of a solid base with those drugs in the mix. But I'm sure he'd probably lose a lot of muscle because his foundation is primarily drugs. I sincerely hope he doesn't get sick though because I wouldn't want to see this.

Phil does seem pretty maxed out though. It will be years before he gets the density that guys like the Blade have. For a bloofy guy, I think Phil has an amazing physique with muscles that really pop out and look cartoonish. Again, the guy is fucking blessed. He works hard, responds well to the drugs and keeps doing everything correctly. I'd like to see him get more striated and keep doing all he can to create the illusion of having more width. I'm not a pro by any stretch but even a gym rat like myself has a pretty wide ass back all things considered. Not saying I'm better than Phil in the least, but for my structure and proportion it feels pretty good to be wide as shit, especially when viewed from the back. Having width from the back is something that'll garner admiration from all the juice heads in the gym, and for Mr. O competitors you get to take home Sandows.


Only thing I want to correct gh15 on though is he called bodybuilding a sport earlier. Everything else, I bow to him.

Well, it would be true, but Heath's arms are big even in the offseason during guess posings (as evident with these pics). Kev did escilene

[Secret Stack]

i was wearing here clothes on the way to go out ,,

the only place to go out at 3.30am is mcdonalds 24hour, lol!

quick, someone find out if dennis james, nasser, gunter blah blah, is currently out of america... gh15 mystrey solved to who ever which one is currently out of the US, lol

[Spike]

the only place to go out at 3.30am is mcdonalds 24hour, lol!

quick, someone find out if dennis james, nasser, gunter blah blah, is currently out of america... gh15 mystrey solved to who ever which one is currently out of the US, lol

I just crushed 3 bacon egg n cheese biscuits from mcdiesels and a few hash browns.....bout to smoke and go bang out shoulders..

east coasts its 10.42 brah

[geneticmarvel]

People shouldn't even have to look so close.

The first few pics posted he looked pretty legit, then the last few made it easier to tell because of the muscle looking flexed at all times. The easiest way to find out is to put their asses in front of a bar and see how much they can curl. If they are real they should be able to put up a decent weight obviously.

When a guy like Heath struggles with 50lb dumbbell curls, pretty sure theres more oil than density there.

[Ropo]

look at the improvenents the IFBB Pro Savolainen made within one year

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if legit, its the craziest biceps development i ve ever seen

you be the judge

unbeliveable growth of his jaw also

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OMG - only one person had the matching triceps

You should remember few things before you will judge he as an synthol freak. First of all, he is Finnish. Finland is that little dot between Russia and Sweden, and it has been and it still is a backwoods of bodybuilding. This simply means that at the time when Marko reach his peak, there was just a few guys in whole world using synthol in bodybuilding, so how he get the information and the gear? Literally poor Finnish guy without any sponsors? What was state of the Internet at that time? There was plenty of drug dealers and bodybuilding sites in the net, and you get anything you want from the web shop? That doesn't ad up with the timeline of the Internet, but facts are for geeks and losers.

Secondly, as far as I know, synthol doesn't make you stronger, so how come this synthol freak is known for his strength and his extra heavy duty training method. For example, is it common to synthol freaks to start their bench press from the 500lb, and do the drop set, taking off 40lb for every drop, down to the point where you can't lift even empty barbell and you have accomplish 60 to 75 reps? You can't find his training videos from the YouTube, because there was no digicams and digivideos at the time, and that is great pity. Instead of that, if you are curious enough, you will find clips where he is teaching training with The Hardcore team. Hardcore team is bunch of amateurs who want to build some muscles, and Marko is their mentor. With those clips you can learn how Marko has been training trough his life.

Finally, I have been spotting his sets, I have been counting his reps and I know the guy. As far as I know, he use a lot of any kind of help to get to the top, but synthol was not one of the bunch. He used all kind of gear, speed, ephedrine etc. to keep himself going, and finally he paid for it by losing his kidneys. He is great, honest and straight guy and if he had lived in the USA instead of the backwoods of Finland, he would have been one of the best ever.

In that clip he was training for his comeback just before his kidneys start to squeal. Here he isn't using so much weight than he used to, but enough to impress most of the people. This is teaser from his training DVD.

[clued-up]

You should remember few things before you will judge he as an synthol freak.

 

[closeline]

i knwo the synthol thing going on deep in Niederbayern it the early 90s already

been living in the nowhere of finland of the early 90s proofes nothing

[clued-up]

i knwo the synthol thing going on deep in Niederbayern it the early 90s already

been living in the nowhere of finland of the early 90s proofes nothing

Oil bag - case c l o s e d . . .

The guy is a walking abscess, and has been since he was a kid.