Pride 33 - Overeem vs Rua

[spinnis]

doesn't do shit in the cage 

it does, throws you complete off, and you think WTF just happened, then you think did Ij ust get bitchslapped with his foot infront of millions of poeple? and BOOM a right hand ko's ypu 

Same with hard frontkicks (non face ones) doesnt ko anyone, but forces you to start over

[devilsmile]

it does, throws you complete off, and you think WTF just happened, then you think did Ij ust get bitchslapped with his foot infront of millions of poeple? and BOOM a right hand ko's ypu 

Same with hard frontkicks (non face ones) doesnt ko anyone, but forces you to start over

I was making fun of your DUMB NUIGGA ASS 

[spinnis]

I was making fun of your DUMB NUIGGA ASS 

I dont know when poeple do that on GB with the mma issue, sometimes I think poeple are just joking when they are serious (read Iwillsuckyourmuscle posts)

[devilsmile]

I dont know when poeple do that on GB with the mma issue, sometimes I think poeple are just joking when they are serious (read Iwillsuckyourmuscle posts)

relax, jumping liver shot  !    I'm a fan of MMA, I was just pulling the allready dry and used joke that doesn't apply to you anymore.. You like all styles and you appreciate great skills, I know that, ghawd, relax, damn !

[Jaime]

Rua is a bit more psycho than Reem that's why he won, mentally stronger, more durable.

Overeem will be hard to beat at heavy, he is a lot stronger and is more patient with his striking but you wonder how he would deal with a good pressure fighter. He looks to have got slower as well if his most recent fights are anything to go by. Not a lot of guys in mma to expose his weaknesses but k1 should be very interesting this year.

[spinnis]

Rua is a bit more psycho than Reem that's why he won, mentally stronger, more durable.

Overeem will be hard to beat at heavy, he is a lot stronger and is more patient with his striking but you wonder how he would deal with a good pressure fighter. He looks to have got slower as well if his most recent fights are anything to go by. Not a lot of guys in mma to expose his weaknesses but k1 should be very interesting this year.

hopefully they have Normal ass rules this time around..


No double arm clinch.. its like they removed it just because of alister.

Have they changed the rules ocmpletly or only for that fight? used to watch k1 all the time a few years back and never recalled that stupid ass rule.

[devilsmile]

one thing in MMA pisses me off... the fucking speculation  

" SO, what do you think will happend?!"
    
       - WELL it can be possible, I'm just speculating, the match could end up in a K.O

"SHIT, you think so huh?!"

      - Yeah, prolly k.o, but the guy has got his difence up by a quarter, so it could be an even bout, the guy has a history of pulling out from some big beatings

"Oh my god  "

      - But, you won't believe this...

"WHAT, jesus man, tell me?!??!"

      - Well.... the fight could end up on the ground...

"you don't THINK that..."

     - yeah could go to a choke man.....

".... I'm speechless..."

     - yeah, a choke or....

"...... space travel  ?!?!?!?!?!?"

      - close..... a fucking.. ARM bar, bro!

"........ *head explode*"




lol that's how they all go... yeah it could en up in ANY POSITION!, but probably ko... but could be ground and pound or a choke or an arm lock or it  could go pass 5 rounds.... but probably one of them.... SHUT UP!!!!!!!!1111111111

[Jaime]

hopefully they have Normal ass rules this time around..


No double arm clinch.. its like they removed it just because of alister.

Have they changed the rules ocmpletly or only for that fight? used to watch k1 all the time a few years back and never recalled that stupid ass rule.

I think it's permanent.

They should just change k-1 to full Muay Thai rules. What is the point of limiting the striking? Very stupid.

[spinnis]

I think it's permanent.

They should just change k-1 to full Muay Thai rules. What is the point of limiting the striking? Very stupid.

stupid as Shit. makes it Alot more boring and k-1 is also going down hill, so doesnt make any sense at all

[Rhomboids]

hopefully they have Normal ass rules this time around..


No double arm clinch.. its like they removed it just because of alister.

Have they changed the rules ocmpletly or only for that fight? used to watch k1 all the time a few years back and never recalled that stupid ass rule.

When he (Overeem) ko'd Ewerton Texeira, some were saying that it maybe was an illegal clinch knee.  I think on that fight night was when that new rule when into effect - though you could clinch at that time with both hands.  I think after he killed Texeira, they changed the rule AGAIN so that you can only clinch with one hand and only throw one kick before having to let go.  I think the rule was made specifically because of him. 

When Overeem started in K-1, his striking was very stiff and robotic.  In this short time though, he's loosen up a lot more and now looks very fluid.  My only concern is how good is his wrestling and how much he's been working on his TD defence.  Verdoom's not a wrestler though.  I actually feel bad for him that he's gonna get destroyed so badly.

[Jaime]

When he (Overeem) ko'd Ewerton Texeira, some were saying that it maybe was an illegal clinch knee.  I think on that fight night was when that new rule when into effect - though you could clinch at that time with both hands.  I think after he killed Texeira, they changed the rule AGAIN so that you can only clinch with one hand and only throw one kick before having to let go.  I think the rule was made specifically because of him. 

When Overeem started in K-1, his striking was very stiff and robotic.  In this short time though, he's loosen up a lot more and now looks very fluid.  My only concern is how good is his wrestling and how much he's been working on his TD defence.  Verdoom's not a wrestler though.  I actually feel bad for him that he's gonna get destroyed so badly.

I wouldn't call him fluid, he has pretty much zero movement, he just shells a lot of the time. He is a far better ring general now though and adheres to a plan, but i think that he has slowed down a bit too.

I think his grappling in general is great, very strong, good technically and he transitions in to thai clinch at every opportunity which is a pain in the ass to look out for.

[Rhomboids]

To me what's most amazing about him is that no other fighter that i can think off has made this kind of turn-around in their career - especially at this stage of his career.  To go from being written off to conquering K-1 and knocking everyone in mma is amazing.  He's become a completely different fighter.  Maybe that's what a fighter needs coming off loses - go to Japan and build a win streak by fighting Jap cans then face real competition after you gain your confidence back?

[big L dawg]

To me what's most amazing about him is that no other fighter that i can think off has made this kind of turn-around in their career - especially at this stage of his career.  To go from being written off to conquering K-1 and knocking everyone in mma is amazing.  He's become a completely different fighter.  Maybe that's what a fighter needs coming off loses - go to Japan and build a win streak by fighting Jap cans then face real competition after you gain your confidence back?

what do you mean this stage of his career he just turned 30 and hasnt even hit his prime yet...