Acording to Bob Wall, who was a very good karateka back in the day, who was talking through some guy on the Seagal forum..
Having heard of the LeBell incident (my teacher was on the 1964 U.S. Olympic Judo team, knew, trained with and even fought Judo Gene LaBell) I had heard that Wall was present at the choking incident. I asked Wall about what happened between Seagal and LeBell.
He confirmed the following to me:
1. Gene LeBell was working as a Stunt Coordinator/Director, not a stunt man (LeBell is an old man--late 60's or even 70);
2. Gene LeBell was working on the "Under Siege" set;
3. The incident was caused due to Seagal "bragging" about how, through his training, he could not be choked out or rendered unconscious. He did "invite" (not so much of a challenge) anyone in the group of stunt men to "try;"
4. Gene LeBell, a once world-class Judo player and professional wrestler, accepted the offer;
5. LeBell choked out Seagal in about 6 seconds (no surprise to me).
6. When unconscious, Seagal lost bladder control and soiled his pants (I have had this happen to me, so, no surprise to me).
Wall went on to speak about how he challenged Seagal to a fight and "Faced him down." Not surprising. If a budoka is challenged, they will certainly avoid a senseless fight. I have done so a number of times and see no shame in "not accepting a challenge."
Basically Seagal is full of shit.
