Flex Pro - Big Dan Hill carbing up, might surprise those of us who bashed him

[Stavios]

looking better already

[Team Diver]

looking better already

it's rather a ketogenic diet, but LOL!!! 

[Matt C]

Why are people mean to Big Dan Hill?

I think he presents very different versions of his physique at different shows which leads me to believe he's experimenting somewhat to find the formula that works for him.  Remember, he is 20 years younger than Troy Alves, Toney Freeman, and some others.

[Fallsview]

Someone say carb up??? 

[gh15]

Why are people mean to Big Dan Hill?

I think he presents very different versions of his physique at different shows which leads me to believe he's experimenting somewhat to find the formula that works for him.  Remember, he is 20 years younger than Troy Alves, Toney Freeman, and some others.

he is maxed,,he is done ,,bad genetic respond ,,not bad but average,,just wasnt meant to be professional ,,how did he get a card? who knows but he does have physiqe that can be fitnes model which is good and respectable just cant go on stage at pro show,,he has muscle he has cuts ,,he just hold too much water and cant dial in ,,he is the type of fella that iwll be 7% but still look 10 % due to problems with water manipulation ,,it take specific apriach and he has no clue to what he is doing ,,he already max with everything because he is 26? or ho3 ever and he look 45 year old ,,you know when you look 20 year older than your age.....you been abusing the shit out of hormones THE SHIT out fo them ,,that include diuretic ,,diuretic shoudl only be used by fellas who know what they doing and not just walking rats

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[njflex]

Why are people mean to Big Dan Hill?

I think he presents very different versions of his physique at different shows which leads me to believe he's experimenting somewhat to find the formula that works for him.  Remember, he is 20 years younger than Troy Alves, Toney Freeman, and some others.

and those guys looked better at the same age,,,alves started late and freeman but alves was a top usa contender mid 30's with better genetics and stupid arms.

[Matt C]

he is maxed,,he is done ,,bad genetic respond ,,not bad but average,,just wasnt meant to be professional ,,how did he get a card? who knows but he does have physiqe that can be fitnes model which is good and respectable just cant go on stage at pro show,,he has muscle he has cuts ,,he just hold too much water and cant dial in ,,he is the type of fella that iwll be 7% but still look 10 % due to problems with water manipulation ,,it take specific apriach and he has no clue to what he is doing ,,he already max with everything because he is 26? or ho3 ever and he look 45 year old ,,you know when you look 20 year older than your age.....you been abusing the shit out of hormones THE SHIT out fo them ,,that include diuretic ,,diuretic shoudl only be used by fellas who know what they doing and not just walking rats

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Well, he still seems to be getting bigger.  I see your point about him looking to have body fat a little higher than his actually is but surely this can be fixed?

and those guys looked better at the same age,,,alves started late and freeman but alves was a top usa contender mid 30's with better genetics and stupid arms.

Other than his arms, I think he has decent size.  It really is a conditioning thing as far as I can tell.  I wouldn't write him off quite yet as he hasn't done enough shows yet for us to know I think.

[gh15]

Well, he still seems to be getting bigger.  I see your point about him looking to have body fat a little higher than his actually is but surely this can be fixed?

Other than his arms, I think he has decent size.  It really is a conditioning thing as far as I can tell.  I wouldn't write him off quite yet as he hasn't done enough shows yet for us to know I think.

yes he look good just not pro good,, when you pro you have to have specific condition on stage that go together with size,,not over all size but muscular size,,im not talking about arms ,,im tsalking about pecs ,,delts,,arms,,everythign,,it has to be there,,and he fuck up on both condition and size,,its not like he came very large and fucked condition ,,its not like he came very conditioned and lost some size,,its nto like he came with both condition and size ofcourse,,what he did was he came smaller,,uncondition ,,and flat which make him look fat when he is not ,,he is single digit and low singles 5-6% just dont know how to use duretic and his body hold water more than othr which mean he REALLY need to know how to dial in in the last month ,,and he doesnt

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[closeline]

yes he look good just not pro good,, when you pro you have to have specific condition on stage that go together with size,,not over all size but muscular size,,im not talking about arms ,,im tsalking about pecs ,,delts,,arms,,everythign,,it has to be there,,and he fuck up on both condition and size,,its not like he came very large and fucked condition ,,its not like he came very conditioned and lost some size,,its nto like he came with both condition and size ofcourse,,what he did was he came smaller,,uncondition ,,and flat which make him look fat when he is not ,,he is single digit and low singles 5-6% just dont know how to use duretic and his body hold water more than othr which mean he REALLY need to know how to dial in in the last month ,,and he doesnt

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does he have the potential to ever dial in "pro like"?

whats your opinion?

[Matt C]

yes he look good just not pro good,, when you pro you have to have specific condition on stage that go together with size,,not over all size but muscular size,,im not talking about arms ,,im tsalking about pecs ,,delts,,arms,,everythign,,it has to be there,,and he fuck up on both condition and size,,its not like he came very large and fucked condition ,,its not like he came very conditioned and lost some size,,its nto like he came with both condition and size ofcourse,,what he did was he came smaller,,uncondition ,,and flat which make him look fat when he is not ,,he is single digit and low singles 5-6% just dont know how to use duretic and his body hold water more than othr which mean he REALLY need to know how to dial in in the last month ,,and he doesnt

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Very good post about Dan being a little off in terms of both size and conditioning.

He may be burnt out from doing too many photo shoots.  I recall him saying that he had something like 24 of them scheduled.

[gh15]

his arms will never be his stronger part,,btu dorian wasnt either,,jason wasnt either,,hainey wasnt either,,all mr o multiple times,,hsi problem is condition and more thickness,,he seem maxed geneticaly as respond to hormones is not there anymore,,he took it to the max,,but! condition can always be improved,,if you haev very good condition it covers for a lot of things,,especially in smaller show,,still though he need to maintain every 1/10 of inch of size he has on him ,,he can not lose any size while gettign in a lot better condition that mean harder drier more defnied less bodyfat etc ,,its very hard to do with out losing some size unless you are on gh...and insulin in many cases,,the thing is  that gh and insulin is not what he needs to care for most it is his dialing in ,,it is his usage of duretics ,,it is the fact he hold a lot of water its nto fat it is water,,some bodybuilder are like that they hold water ,,remember the rhino fella from getbig back in teh day ,,he had same exact problem,,it is genetic pre disposition ,,skin is thicker too,,the way to take care of it is to be very serious in the prep ,,yes you can still do balonie offseason but during prep it should be bible followingto the t and then last few weeks you need to know your duretic and body and what it likes,,he can improve condition ,,size...i doubt he can look fuller which will appear bigger but actual size dont think so,,condition and looking full will get him better placings

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[Tito24]

agree, i remember shari kamali looked awesome in 2001 too and his arms looked good so it basically was the conditioning that did it cause he has shit structure and size arms.

[closeline]

his arms will never be his stronger part,,btu dorian wasnt either,,jason wasnt either,,hainey wasnt either,,all mr o multiple times,,hsi problem is condition and more thickness,,he seem maxed geneticaly as respond to hormones is not there anymore,,he took it to the max,,but! condition can always be improved,,if you haev very good condition it covers for a lot of things,,especially in smaller show,,still though he need to maintain every 1/10 of inch of size he has on him ,,he can not lose any size while gettign in a lot better condition that mean harder drier more defnied less bodyfat etc ,,its very hard to do with out losing some size unless you are on gh...and insulin in many cases,,the thing is  that gh and insulin is not what he needs to care for most it is his dialing in ,,it is his usage of duretics ,,it is the fact he hold a lot of water its nto fat it is water,,some bodybuilder are like that they hold water ,,remember the rhino fella from getbig back in teh day ,,he had same exact problem,,it is genetic pre disposition ,,skin is thicker too,,the way to take care of it is to be very serious in the prep ,,yes you can still do balonie offseason but during prep it should be bible followingto the t and then last few weeks you need to know your duretic and body and what it likes,,he can improve condition ,,size...i doubt he can look fuller which will appear bigger but actual size dont think so,,condition and looking full will get him better placings

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would you have continued with his genetics?

[gh15]

would you have continued with his genetics?

yes,,if you notice he place 13 not last,,he is not that horrible,,he just was out of condition ,,he just have average physiqe that taken into pro level ,,dont know who gave him pro card,,but actualy its good because it can bring more of you into the pros,,pros need to be more from the people,,thats the only thing that will maybe get bodybuild from a cult into a something that people can look with nto complete disgust,,
why would someone quit if he is pro and 26? if he need money i sugest looking elsewhere but if he has money from doign thing in fitness then he shoudl go on ,,he can place ok in smaller shows

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[Meso_z]

yes,,if you notice he place 13 not last,,he is not that horrible,,he just was out of condition ,,he just have average physiqe that taken into pro level ,,dont know who gave him pro card,,but actualy its good because it can bring more of you into the pros,,pros need to be more from the people,,thats the only thing that will maybe get bodybuild from a cult into a something that people can look with nto complete disgust,,
why would someone quit if he is pro and 26? if he need money i sugest looking elsewhere but if he has money from doign thing in fitness then he shoudl go on ,,he can place ok in smaller shows

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Hi "Big" Dan. 

[closeline]

yes,,if you notice he place 13 not last,,he is not that horrible,,he just was out of condition ,,he just have average physiqe that taken into pro level ,,dont know who gave him pro card,,but actualy its good because it can bring more of you into the pros,,pros need to be more from the people,,thats the only thing that will maybe get bodybuild from a cult into a something that people can look with nto complete disgust,,
why would someone quit if he is pro and 26? if he need money i sugest looking elsewhere but if he has money from doign thing in fitness then he shoudl go on ,,he can place ok in smaller shows

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thak you for your answer

but i belive he s wasting time and money (health) trying the impossible "to be a real pro"

[njflex]

look at the winner they are both young in there bbing careers and evan won 2 shows already,dan hill is light yrs behind evan in every aspect ,maybe he will get better .

[basil]