Author Topic: I'm a huge fan of BJ. (Read 2512 times)

pellius · « **on:** February 27, 2011, 03:26:38 AM »

Being from Hawaii it does us proud to see a local boy go so far. Even more so for me since I knew him when he was coming up through the Jiu-Jitsu tournament circuit. Those of us in the Jiu-Jitsu world knew he was destined for great things.

But tonight I think he lost to John Fitch. BJ beat him in the first round. The second could have gone either way though I actually gave Fitch the edge. BJ got dominated in the third round. He was starting to get that look on his face that he gets when his will is being broken. He should be grateful that it was not a 5 rounder.

BJ got a huge gift tonight because if he lost I really don't know where that would leave him. In fact, I'm not sure where they go from here. A non-title five rounder?

I'll say this, and it's just what I hear from people closer to the scene in Hilo than I am, BJ does not have the greatest camp in the world. At his school he's the boss, the alpha alpha, he calls the final shots. Everything revolves around him and he's surrounded by fans rather than gritty trainers. With Fitch he's just one of many top fighters in his camp. Nothing stops when he enters the training facility. With BJ when he walks in everyone knows he's the man.

breakmore · « **Reply #1 on:** February 27, 2011, 03:32:34 AM »

Doesn't everybody like a blow job?

BILL ANVIL · « **Reply #2 on:** February 27, 2011, 03:15:55 PM »

Quote from: breakmore on February 27, 2011, 03:32:34 AM

Doesn't everybody like a blow job?

Fitch was fighting a smaller fighter and still couldn't win wtf.

MindSpin · « **Reply #3 on:** February 27, 2011, 07:15:50 PM »

You got to give BJ credit. He just went up against the undisputed #2 welterweight and IMO won the 1st 2 rounds. Unfortionately he gassed in the 3rd.

I think he should go back go lightweight and get his title back. I don't see Franky holding on to it for long.

Jadeveon Clowney · « **Reply #4 on:** February 27, 2011, 07:20:03 PM »

Fuck this. Fitch did not deserve to win. Huge size advantage and he still could not put BJ away.

BILL ANVIL · « **Reply #5 on:** February 27, 2011, 07:27:24 PM »

Quote from: Evolver on February 27, 2011, 07:15:50 PM

You got to give BJ credit. He just went up against the undisputed #2 welterweight and IMO won the 1st 2 rounds. Unfortionately he gassed in the 3rd.

I think he should go back go lightweight and get his title back. I don't see Franky holding on to it for long.

Penns not going to hold a belt ever again. The sport has evolved and hes gotten older.

pellius · « **Reply #6 on:** February 28, 2011, 01:43:58 AM »

Quote from: Jadeveon Clowney on February 27, 2011, 07:20:03 PM

Fuck this. Fitch did not deserve to win. Huge size advantage and he still could not put BJ away.

Are you saying that if Fitch was smaller the decision should have been different? And you realize that B.J. has only been "put away" only twice in ten years? Once by Matt Hughes and once by GSP, both mma legends in their time. "Putting away" BJ has proven to be no easy feat. And there was only a two pound difference during weigh-ins and even on fight night there was no "huge" size difference between the two. Now there was a huge size advantage when BJ fought Lyoto Machida but even then Machida couldn't put BJ away.

coltrane · « **Reply #7 on:** February 28, 2011, 06:36:33 AM »

Quote from: pellius on February 28, 2011, 01:43:58 AM

Are you saying that if Fitch was smaller the decision should have been different? And you realize that B.J. has only been "put away" only twice in ten years? Once by Matt Hughes and once by GSP, both mma legends in their time. "Putting away" BJ has proven to be no easy feat. And there was only a two pound difference during weigh-ins and even on fight night there was no "huge" size difference between the two. Now there was a huge size advantage when BJ fought Lyoto Machida but even then Machida couldn't put BJ away.

I agree.

This dude acts like finishing Penn shouldve been an easy task. I'd put Penn at one of the top 5 MMA ever.

WeightPSHR · « **Reply #8 on:** February 28, 2011, 07:16:13 AM »

This was a HUGE fight for BJ, and I think he showed that he still has what it takes and can change his game. I would like to see BJ fight Fitch again but I also feel that if BJ used this style at 155 he would do well there too.

BJ looked real good against one of the best WW's in the world. No shame in that.

BJ has surely cemented his legacy as one of the best of all time. Just for his ability to evolve alone. Who would think that he could learn wrestling takedowns like that at this point in his career?

WeightPSHR · « **Reply #9 on:** February 28, 2011, 07:18:38 AM »

Quote from: BILL ANVIL on February 27, 2011, 07:27:24 PM

Penns not going to hold a belt ever again. The sport has evolved and hes gotten older.

BJ just fought the #2 WW in the world, who hasn't lost to anyone but GSP in over 7 years and almost won.

BJ just used wrestling to take down a pedigree wrestler. What does evolve mean to you?

coltrane · « **Reply #10 on:** February 28, 2011, 07:18:47 AM »

Quote from: WeightPSHR on February 28, 2011, 07:16:13 AM

This was a HUGE fight for BJ, and I think he showed that he still has what it takes and can change his game. I would like to see BJ fight Fitch again but I also feel that if BJ used this style at 155 he would do well there too.

BJ looked real good against one of the best WW's in the world. No shame in that.

BJ has surely cemented his legacy as one of the best of all time. Just for his ability to evolve alone. Who would think that he could learn wrestling takedowns like that at this point in his career?

There is zero doubt BJ is a phenom. Taking Fitch to a draw is impressive. I hate ppl talking about Fitch as boring etc.. yes, he may be boring, but that guy can fight and has HUGE heart, cardio, and resiliency. Reminds me of Rocky in the final fight in Rocky 3 against clubber lang.

WeightPSHR · « **Reply #11 on:** February 28, 2011, 07:31:04 AM »

Quote from: coltrane on February 28, 2011, 07:18:47 AM

There is zero doubt BJ is a phenom. Taking Fitch to a draw is impressive. I hate ppl talking about Fitch as boring etc.. yes, he may be boring, but that guy can fight and has HUGE heart, cardio, and resiliency. Reminds me of Rocky in the final fight in Rocky 3 against clubber lang.

Oh yea...I agree. Fitch has to be the most underrated/underestimated guy in MMA. I really don't think all his fights are that dull and the guy comes to fight.

Both guys put on a great fight, but I think it's only fair to have them fight again. Might be hard selling that fight though. My bet is the UFC passes on it.

Haven't heard much from Dana after UFC 127. Wonder why?

coltrane · « **Reply #12 on:** February 28, 2011, 07:33:37 AM »

I wish they had some sort of mechanism in effect for draws. Maybe a fourth round or another judge. I hate draws and think it is bs for the fighter to put his heart out there and get such a result.

WeightPSHR · « **Reply #13 on:** February 28, 2011, 07:36:58 AM »

Quote from: coltrane on February 28, 2011, 07:33:37 AM

I wish they had some sort of mechanism in effect for draws. Maybe a fourth round or another judge. I hate draws and think it is bs for the fighter to put his heart out there and get such a result.

I think all fights should be 5 rounds as well.

MindSpin · « **Reply #14 on:** February 28, 2011, 08:13:31 AM »

Dana feels that Pen won 1 & 2 and that 3 shouldn't have been a 10-8. He gave it to Pen and is criticizing Fitch for not being able to finish a 55r.

Jadeveon Clowney · « **Reply #15 on:** February 28, 2011, 08:34:22 AM »

Quote from: Evolver on February 28, 2011, 08:13:31 AM

Dana feels that Pen won 1 & 2 and that 3 shouldn't have been a 10-8. He gave it to Pen and is criticizing Fitch for not being able to finish a 55r.

Oh brother, what does Dana know? Tell him "coltrane" from getbig disagrees.

kevcat · « **Reply #16 on:** February 28, 2011, 08:48:24 AM »

Quote from: Evolver on February 27, 2011, 07:15:50 PM

You got to give BJ credit. He just went up against the undisputed #2 welterweight and IMO won the 1st 2 rounds. Unfortionately he gassed in the 3rd.

I think he should go back go lightweight and get his title back. I don't see Franky holding on to it for long.

You seriously have fucked up opinions sometimes. How do you not see Edgar holding onto the belt for long? Penn already lost twice to Frankie so he aint gona get the title from him.Hes not got the mental strength to think he could beat a guy whos already had him twice

coltrane · « **Reply #17 on:** February 28, 2011, 08:52:09 AM »

Quote from: Jadeveon Clowney on February 28, 2011, 08:34:22 AM

Oh brother, what does Dana know? Tell him "coltrane" from getbig disagrees.

awww. Is someone sad cause not everyone agrees with their statement? Cry me a river retard.

Jadeveon Clowney · « **Reply #18 on:** February 28, 2011, 09:26:22 AM »

Quote from: coltrane on February 28, 2011, 08:52:09 AM

awww. Is someone sad cause not everyone agrees with their statement? Cry me a river retard.

lol, it's the Fitch fans who are going to be crying a river, asswipe.

coltrane · « **Reply #19 on:** February 28, 2011, 09:57:56 AM »

Quote from: Jadeveon Clowney on February 28, 2011, 09:26:22 AM

lol, it's the Fitch fans who are going to be crying a river, asswipe.

Reported as racist post.

MindSpin · « **Reply #20 on:** February 28, 2011, 11:48:01 AM »

Quote from: kevcat on February 28, 2011, 08:48:24 AM

You seriously have fucked up opinions sometimes. How do you not see Edgar holding onto the belt for long? Penn already lost twice to Frankie so he aint gona get the title from him.Hes not got the mental strength to think he could beat a guy whos already had him twice

I think Franky will have his hands full with many of the guys in that stacked division. I just don't see him being a dominant champ.