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The one Chart that sums up why the US is Screwed
« on: February 26, 2011, 03:19:17 PM »
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-only-chart-you-need-to-see-to-understand-why-the-us-is-screwed-2011-2

Income on the left, expenses on the right:


As you can see, entitlements are what the real problem is.  You can read through the entire pdf file this data was extrapolated from, excellent read if you are in the mood:

http://images.businessweek.com/mz/11/10/1110_mz_49meekerusainc.pdf

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Re: The one Chart that sums up why the US is Screwed
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2011, 03:25:12 PM »
Too many takers, not enough makers.   

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Re: The one Chart that sums up why the US is Screwed
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2011, 04:39:43 PM »
No politician is even willing to mention this, that's even more alarming.

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Re: The one Chart that sums up why the US is Screwed
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2011, 05:13:34 PM »
Want to know why we are screwed?

Go to any large gathering of people and look around. 

We have become a nation of majority takers of one sort or another.  Whether its people working for the govt, welfare, people on UE, people on ssi, people on disability, professional students, pensioners, etc, we simply don't have enough people working actually doing anything.

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Re: The one Chart that sums up why the US is Screwed
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2011, 10:42:04 PM »
Want to know why we are screwed?

Go to any large gathering of people and look around. 

We have become a nation of majority takers of one sort or another.  Whether its people working for the govt, welfare, people on UE, people on ssi, people on disability, professional students, pensioners, etc, we simply don't have enough people working actually doing anything.

 Good post!

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Re: The one Chart that sums up why the US is Screwed
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2011, 10:48:04 PM »
Good post!

STFU, your country is more screwed than ours will ever be.

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Re: The one Chart that sums up why the US is Screwed
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2011, 10:48:59 PM »
So who's going to get us out of this mess?  Only Bloomberg actually knows innovation and how to run a business.

Mitt Romney is just a greed is good type that helped get us into this mess.

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Re: The one Chart that sums up why the US is Screwed
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2011, 10:53:17 PM »
STFU, your country is more screwed than ours will ever be.

 What do you know about my country? Everybody knows what America is! The world know swhat America is coming to! STFU??????? Nice culture! shut the? what is the? Do you have your front teeth absent as proper words don't come out of your mouth but it sounds like the the the

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Re: The one Chart that sums up why the US is Screwed
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2011, 10:56:37 PM »
What do you know about my country? Everybody knows what America is! The world know swhat America is coming to! STFU??????? Nice culture! shut the? what is the? Do you have your front teeth absent as proper words don't come out of your mouth but it sounds like the the the

If I was in Russia, you would have no teeth.

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Re: The one Chart that sums up why the US is Screwed
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2011, 10:58:19 PM »
If I was in Russia, you would have no teeth.


 Even your teeth don't have teeth as your teeth sound like th th th th th th, Jesus! Not need to come to Russia, Russians are coming.

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Re: The one Chart that sums up why the US is Screwed
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2011, 10:59:53 PM »

 Even your teeth don't have teeth as your teeth sound like th th th th th th, Jesus! Not need to come to Russia, Russians are coming.

Russians you profile along US culture th th

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Re: The one Chart that sums up why the US is Screwed
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2011, 11:02:13 PM »
Russians you profile along US culture th th

 There is no US culture. There is Hollywood and MTV. Those are not culture...

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Re: The one Chart that sums up why the US is Screwed
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2011, 11:03:26 PM »
There is no US culture. There is Hollywood and MTV. Those are not culture...

Gobble factory US wondering movie Rusia.

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Re: The one Chart that sums up why the US is Screwed
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2011, 11:06:33 PM »
Gobble factory US wondering movie Rusia.

 Americans in Russia! ;D

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Re: The one Chart that sums up why the US is Screwed
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2011, 08:49:19 AM »

Balancing the Budget: Do Americans Have What It Takes?
Townhall.com ^ | February 27, 2011 | Ken Connor



Many times, the problems in life that seem most complex are quite the opposite: They are simple issues that have been complicated and muddled by factors such as emotion, obstinacy, greed, and dishonesty. Such is often the case with budgets. Whether you are managing a household, a state, or a country, the basics of budgeting are the same. First, you need to know how much money is coming in. Then, you need to prioritize spending, distinguishing between needs and wants. And finally, you shouldn't spend more money than you take in.


Ask anyone who has ever struggled to dig themselves out of debt and they will tell you that these fundamentals are absolutely essential for achieving and maintaining freedom from debt. Fail to attend to any of the three, and you're going to have problems.


Houston, we have a problem – a $14 trillion-and-counting problem. It is estimated that, by the end of 2011, the US national debt will exceed our gross domestic product for the first time in history. Not only is this an unsustainable course with dire implications for economic and homeland security, it is grossly irresponsible behavior for a nation that purports to be a political and economic role model for the rest of the world. Year after year, our elected representatives refuse to do the hard work required to distinguish between budgetary wants and needs, and year after year the government takes on debt to finance programs it can't afford.


Last November, the American people sent a clear message to Washington that they've had enough. Whether fueled by Tea Party patriotism or simple frustration over the stagnating economy and job market, the prevailing sentiment is that our country is on the wrong economic course. Common sense dictates that a move back towards fiscal solvency must be part of the solution to revitalizing America's economy. Without this vital step, we will continue limping along, bogged down by crushing debt and unable to muster any true economic momentum. Businesses will continue to struggle and Main Street will continue to feel the pinch.


There are basically only two ways for the American government to escape the bondage of debt: Cut spending or increase taxes – or resort to a combination of both.


Well, the American people have made it clear that they don't want – nor can they afford – Uncle Sam raising their taxes any time soon. Consequently, Congress has made it clear that it has no intention of raising taxes in the next two years. The only option left, then, is to cut spending, and given the projected budget deficit, they'll have to cut lots of spending in order to make any meaningful impact on the nation's balance sheet. It's time to bring out the hatchets.


If only it were as simple as it sounds. Here's where politics come into play and things get tricky. First, there is the problem that many Americans fail to appreciate the connection between a good idea and the costs of implementing that idea. Even the staunchest proponents of budgetary reform tend to balk when confronted with the real-world implications of that reform. Few Americans realize how much they've actually come to rely on government programs in the last 75 years or so. This is why you'll see Tea Party patriots wielding "Government Hands Off Medicare" signs with absolutely no sense of irony, and why any mention of entitlement reform tends to raise hackles on both sides of the aisle.


On the spending side of things, it is indisputable that the national budget is shaped, in no small part, by a phalanx of special interests. The cast of characters is familiar enough: Big Business, Big Labor, Big Medicine, the NEA... the list goes on and on. At the end of the day, then, government expenditures are often shaped by politicians who cater to special interests in an effort to preserve their political careers by exchanging taxpayer money for votes. To those politicians, the prospect of making substantive and meaningful budget cuts is terrifying; it is tantamount to committing political suicide. We can see this dynamic playing out today in places like Wisconsin, where Governor Scott Walker is feeling the backlash of standing up to Big Labor. We've seen it in New Jersey, where Governor Chris Christy has roused the ire of Big Education. This is only a glimpse of the fallout that will be felt if Congress gets serious about dealing with America's debt crisis.


Do our leaders have what it takes to endure the repercussions of decisive action? Are they willing to risk their careers in order to effect true reform? And, do the American people have the integrity and character to support authentic attempts to balance the budget? Or will we take to the streets in protest when the rubber hits the road and actual cuts are proposed?


The fate of our economy literally hangs on the answers to these questions. The remedies needed to right the Ship of State are not easy or comfortable, but they are simple. The only alternative to decisive action today is to continue kicking the can of responsibility down the road, mortgaging the future of our grandchildren. We can, and should, do better. Such a shameful course is not worthy of a nation that has for centuries stood as a model of liberty, justice, and financial responsibility for the rest of the world.


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Re: The one Chart that sums up why the US is Screwed
« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2011, 03:26:47 PM »
Want to know why we are screwed?

Go to any large gathering of people and look around. 

We have become a nation of majority takers of one sort or another.  Whether its people working for the govt, welfare, people on UE, people on ssi, people on disability, professional students, pensioners, etc, we simply don't have enough people working actually doing anything.

That's pretty much what the graph shows, entitlement spending is through the roof because of this.

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Re: The one Chart that sums up why the US is Screwed
« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2011, 03:45:50 PM »
That's pretty much what the graph shows, entitlement spending is through the roof because of this.

It is... but also look at that Defense portion... Imagine if you cut back on ALL of those items... Imagine how you could actually balance a budget.

I agree entitlements suck... but Defense is ALSO an entitlement... entitlements to corporations for defense equipment and just as many employees on the payroll as anything else.

Guaranteed Pay raises and the like... WTF?!

So yes... take all FOUR of those items and cut them ALL... man, wouldn't that be great.

Although, even now, none of the politicians talk about that...None of them want to cut any of that shit, because to even talk about it is political suicide.

Pretty fucked up huh?

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Re: The one Chart that sums up why the US is Screwed
« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2011, 05:02:25 PM »
It is... but also look at that Defense portion... Imagine if you cut back on ALL of those items... Imagine how you could actually balance a budget.

I agree entitlements suck... but Defense is ALSO an entitlement... entitlements to corporations for defense equipment and just as many employees on the payroll as anything else.

Guaranteed Pay raises and the like... WTF?!

So yes... take all FOUR of those items and cut them ALL... man, wouldn't that be great.

Although, even now, none of the politicians talk about that...None of them want to cut any of that shit, because to even talk about it is political suicide.

Pretty fucked up huh?

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Re: The one Chart that sums up why the US is Screwed
« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2011, 05:09:26 PM »
Tu you are showing stunning signs of evolving into a complete and total imbecile when it comes to American fiscal matters. Do you realize how stupid you sound when you mindlessly blame corporations for everything?

The graphic in the first post of this thread demonstrates irrefutably that entitlements are the problem. If you can't grasp that simple concept, you are too much of a moron to provide your opinion on the issue at hand.

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Re: The one Chart that sums up why the US is Screwed
« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2011, 05:12:14 PM »
Basic math is going to win the day - for better or mostly likely and predictable much worse. 

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Re: The one Chart that sums up why the US is Screwed
« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2011, 03:26:13 AM »
It is... but also look at that Defense portion... Imagine if you cut back on ALL of those items... Imagine how you could actually balance a budget.

I agree entitlements suck... but Defense is ALSO an entitlement... entitlements to corporations for defense equipment and just as many employees on the payroll as anything else.

Guaranteed Pay raises and the like... WTF?!

So yes... take all FOUR of those items and cut them ALL... man, wouldn't that be great.

Although, even now, none of the politicians talk about that...None of them want to cut any of that shit, because to even talk about it is political suicide.

Pretty fucked up huh?

Cut defense spending to accommodate entitlements?   ::)

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Re: The one Chart that sums up why the US is Screwed
« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2011, 09:19:23 AM »
Cut defense spending to accommodate entitlements?   ::)

Did you not read where I said cut them all?

I said cut ALL of them. Are you one of those people that reads what he wants to read and not what people say?

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Re: The one Chart that sums up why the US is Screwed
« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2011, 11:43:06 AM »
I would inherently be against cutting defense investment, but when you consider the costs and pork-barrel bullshit involved in military spending... it is really hard to get one's mind around the wastefulness there. Why do Humvees cost $140K? Why do F-35s cost 1 billion apiece? This is rediculous.

Also, what is it going to take to get the government to cut off the illegals and millions of welfare leeches that contribute nothing and do nothing but consume resources? I realize the public unions will never get reigned in, but we all know the economics here could be solved overnight by cutting off the public trust fund for the worthless.