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Rua V. Jones .... who ya got and why?
« on: March 17, 2011, 07:06:11 AM »
I think Rua's main weapon has to be his striking ability while standing.  If he keeps Jones up and on his feet, he could go for the KO or, more likely, the TKO. 

However, Jones' game plan must be to get Rua to the ground and fast.  Rua has always had problem with takedown defense.  Bones needs to get him to the ground and pummel him fast.  He can't lollygag and be sloppy... or he'll get sub'd on the ground.

 Look for Rua to come out for about a min in the first, get Jones' reach figured out, then strike fast and hard.  Jones will counter hard though.  The announcers will shout "we've got a fight on our hands" at the end of the first. 

Second round Rua will be taken down and gnp'd until a TKO win for Jones.  Jones will be cut though.

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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2011, 07:53:24 AM »
I got Jones.  He has the size, reach, and his wrestling/takedowns/GnP will take care of the rest. This pretty much neutralizes any of Rua's strengths.

You add all of this up, PLUS the long time-off for Rua, and I am confident Jones will be the new LHW champ.

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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2011, 10:33:52 AM »
I think Jones's mobility nullifies anything Rua can throw at him standing up and I see Rua paying a price coming in and trying to get the fight to the ground...

Rua's chance here is to get the leg kicks going early and maybe wearing down Jones and maybe even things out for the second half of this fight....

I can almost envision this thing ending with Jones's knees in the standup playing a huge role early.

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« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2011, 11:29:48 AM »
I think it will be a good fight, but Jones will just overpower and win via ground-n-pound in the end.

Hopefully not with a controversial or early stoppage.

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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2011, 11:43:44 AM »
I'm really surprised no one is picking Rua (except George) at this point.  I picked Jones, but this could EASILY go the other way. 

How does Jones react to getting hit?  Does he have cardio?  Can he fight an awesome striker. 

I'm not 100% confident Jones will win.  Rua is a beast.

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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2011, 11:47:39 AM »
I'm really surprised no one is picking Rua (except George) at this point.  I picked Jones, but this could EASILY go the other way. 

How does Jones react to getting hit?  Does he have cardio?  Can he fight an awesome striker. 

I'm not 100% confident Jones will win.  Rua is a beast.

Could go either way. I'd be happy as long as it isn't round after round of lay and pray.


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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2011, 03:38:15 PM »
The only problem with this matchup from a fan perspective is the possibility of a lay and pray victory by Jones. I doubt he will do such a thing because he's agressive and looks to finish fights, but he certainly has the ability to take Rua down and just hold him there.

Like Geo said above, I think leg kicks and properly gauging the distance of Jones' reach are his keys to victory. If he can do those things and avoid takedowns, he can put himself in a good position to knock Jones out or score on points ala Lyoto Machida style.

The two biggest variables at work here are Jones' nerves/inexperience and whether he has a suspect chin. In 11 or so fights, I don't think he has suffered as much as a scratch. If Shogun hits him in the mouth, will he fold or will he continue to press the action? If you never get hit, getting hit can be a traumatic experience-- especially for a young kid in his first title fight against a seasoned veteran like Shogun.

The other big question mark is Shoguns health and ring rust-- He hasn't fought since May and had surgery on his knee again. A 100% Shogun is capable of beating anybody at 205. A rusty Shogun who is not healthy can lose to a chump like Forrest Griffin.

In the end, this is a 5 rounder which I think works to Jones' advantage unfortunately. As the bigger, stronger, younger more active fighter with superior wrestling, I can't imagine Rua winning a decision here.

In summation, Rua wins by KO or TKO in one of the early rounds or he gets manhandled and either ends up submitted early or TKO'd by round 3 with vicious elbows. Im picking Shogun, but I realistically give him a 25% chance of winning.

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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2011, 04:57:58 PM »
The only problem with this matchup from a fan perspective is the possibility of a lay and pray victory by Jones. I doubt he will do such a thing because he's agressive and looks to finish fights, but he certainly has the ability to take Rua down and just hold him there.

Like Geo said above, I think leg kicks and properly gauging the distance of Jones' reach are his keys to victory. If he can do those things and avoid takedowns, he can put himself in a good position to knock Jones out or score on points ala Lyoto Machida style.

The two biggest variables at work here are Jones' nerves/inexperience and whether he has a suspect chin. In 11 or so fights, I don't think he has suffered as much as a scratch. If Shogun hits him in the mouth, will he fold or will he continue to press the action? If you never get hit, getting hit can be a traumatic experience-- especially for a young kid in his first title fight against a seasoned veteran like Shogun.

The other big question mark is Shoguns health and ring rust-- He hasn't fought since May and had surgery on his knee again. A 100% Shogun is capable of beating anybody at 205. A rusty Shogun who is not healthy can lose to a chump like Forrest Griffin.

In the end, this is a 5 rounder which I think works to Jones' advantage unfortunately. As the bigger, stronger, younger more active fighter with superior wrestling, I can't imagine Rua winning a decision here.

In summation, Rua wins by KO or TKO in one of the early rounds or he gets manhandled and either ends up submitted early or TKO'd by round 3 with vicious elbows. Im picking Shogun, but I realistically give him a 25% chance of winning.

So your picking Shogun, but telling us Jones most likely will win?

Nice try at protecting yourself...but not quite.

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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2011, 04:59:35 PM »
So your picking Shogun, but telling us Jones most likely will win?

Nice try at protecting yourself...but not quite.

Stick to impaling yourself on Fedors cock and leave the MMA analysis to the rest of us. You were kind of witty... but not quite.

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« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2011, 05:39:31 PM »
Stick to impaling yourself on Fedors cock and leave the MMA analysis to the rest of us. You were kind of witty... but not quite.

I'm just trying to understand you pick.

Your saying your picking Rua to win but think Jones will win?

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« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2011, 06:09:17 PM »
I told Coltrane I would pick Rua more than a month ago despite the fact that he has a very good chance of losing. The more I think about it, the less confident I am in him retaining the title. But I said I would pick him, so I'm picking him. He's my favorite fighter at 205 so I can't jump ship now.

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« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2011, 07:29:31 PM »
I told Coltrane I would pick Rua more than a month ago despite the fact that he has a very good chance of losing. The more I think about it, the less confident I am in him retaining the title. But I said I would pick him, so I'm picking him. He's my favorite fighter at 205 so I can't jump ship now.

Ok. Thanks for a respectable answer.


After Saturday night, we will know if Jones is the real deal.

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Re: Rua V. Jones .... who ya got and why?
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2011, 09:45:44 AM »
If Shogun is 100% healthy he will take it
I dont like twinks.

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« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2011, 11:23:12 AM »
If Rua shows up 100%, he will demolish Jones.  However, I doubt he is truly recovered from his knee injury.  I'm picking Jones by G&P TKO.

What about the Faber fight?  This one has huge implications.  If Faber wins, he gets three big scores: title match, TUF coach & a fight against a guy he hates and has beaten before. Easier said than done.  Edie Wineland isn't going to roll over and he is hungry.  This will be an awesome fight.  I'm going with Faber via submission.

Here are the rest of my picks: Jim Miller, Nate Marquard & I hope Crocop crushes Schaub, but that won't likely happen...Shaub by KO R1.  
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« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2011, 03:06:12 PM »
I hope Crocop crushes Schaub. 

Unfortunately, the "CroCop success ship" has sailed.

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« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2011, 03:23:03 PM »
I think Schaub exposes Mirko for everything he's not these days....

Mirko doesn't belong anywhere near the main PPV Card..

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« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2011, 03:35:14 PM »
i hope cro cop headkicks schaub's head off. 

sadly, i doubt it will happen.  cro cops best days are way behind him.
I dont like twinks.

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« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2011, 04:22:16 PM »
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« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2011, 06:54:53 PM »


 
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« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2011, 08:03:21 PM »
I fuckin love Shogun man. I hope he wins. He's another one of those guys that doesn't say much, isn't flashy and just wins. Reminds me a lot of guys like Fedor, Cain Velsquez, Noguerra etc.-- Classy, gutsy and talented.

I hope he has an answer for JJ.

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« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2011, 08:10:42 PM »


jones almost looks like he's in a different weight class

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« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2011, 10:09:00 PM »
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« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2011, 10:11:05 PM »
Gracie:  Put the revolver down NOW.
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« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2011, 07:44:13 PM »
i hope cro cop headkicks schaub's head off. 

sadly, i doubt it will happen.  cro cops best days are way behind him.

Time to stick a fork in Mirko....a great MMA career comes to a close.