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Re: Gimme some interesting stuff to research/get involved with
« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2011, 07:09:26 PM »
interesting to read some of the stuff you guys are saying under this topic.

I sure as hell ain't no Quantum Mechanics expert but according to one professor who teaches that subject, that very statement proves that I know more about QM than those who claim to understand it thoroughly.

Once someone claims to know it entirely, it's proof that he knows nothing about it.

Based on my limited study of the subject, the only 'thing' that exists is pure energy .... and then it gets really complicated  delving into 'ulterior realities' (or something similar to that term) which I completely failed to understand.

My 'limited study of QM' consists of reading Dancing Wu Li Masters (the best book on the subject) about 6 times in an attempt to understand it, but I are dumb and only learned it well enough to talk to professors who think I understand it pretty well.

If you really want to make an attempt at expanding your mind, I strongly suggest reading DWLM. Most of you will enjoy Schroder's Cat in the black box and the dual nature of light, etc.

You can download it for free somewhere on the net. Or let me know and I'll do my best to send you a copy or at least a link.

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Re: Gimme some interesting stuff to research/get involved with
« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2011, 07:12:03 PM »
Getbig accounts for a good chunk of that Intergalactic Gas I bet.

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« Reply #27 on: March 16, 2011, 07:13:55 PM »
actually roger penrose recently (5ish years) postulated (along with others) that we live in an "open" universe..which..because of dark energy (which makes up most of the universe) is speeding up the expansion of the universe...eventually  will destroy all matter ..because everything will be stretched soo far apart that all that will remain are photons..which will eventually lad to another big bang in another universe!



Good stuff tox... however, Penrose never took in consideration Fallsview+A23+TeamP's Light matter of positiveness in consideration...

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« Reply #28 on: March 16, 2011, 08:41:16 PM »
Maybe in an abstract manner you can but physically there is nothing smaller than an elementary particle.

An elementary particle is not made up of anything else. And it is not even as simple as that, particles on this level act both as waves and physical particles with mass. All intuition and concept of physical reality breaks down; all we are left with is quantum mechanics which very few people understand.

if an elementary particle exists, its made of something. whatever its made of has an "inside". and whatever that is has an "inside". continually to infinite.


its not something abstract. its reality. wrap your head around it.

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Re: Gimme some interesting stuff to research/get involved with
« Reply #29 on: March 16, 2011, 08:52:44 PM »
Only on getbig can you be an expert in resistance training, MMA, pulling women, diet, anabolic steroids and fundamental particles all at the same time. ::)

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Re: Gimme some interesting stuff to research/get involved with
« Reply #30 on: March 16, 2011, 08:56:13 PM »
if an elementary particle exists, its made of something. whatever its made of has an "inside". and whatever that is has an "inside". continually to infinite.


its not something abstract. its reality. wrap your head around it.
I am quite sure of what I'm talking about; I suspect that you have not taken a physics course beyond the most elementary one. So I don't blame you for having this view. This is truly not a knock on you.

My simple point was that matter is not infinitely divisible: there is such a thing as elementary particles that can NOT be divided any further.

your concept of what matter consists of is a rudimentary one that is useful only up to a certain point. It does not make any sense to speak of an inside of an electron. It is not like a piece of cheese that occupies a definite space that you can cut and look inside of.

You may or may not understand this depending on how much physics you have taken, so I'm not knocking your intelligence. As others have pointed out you do seem to be a bit thick headed when it comes to your views though.

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Re: Gimme some interesting stuff to research/get involved with
« Reply #31 on: March 16, 2011, 09:06:44 PM »
I am quite sure of what I'm talking about; I suspect that you have not taken a physics course beyond the most elementary one. So I don't blame you for having this view. This is truly not a knock on you.

My simple point was that matter is not infinitely divisible: there is such a thing as elementary particles that can NOT be divided any further.

your concept of what matter consists of is a rudimentary one that is useful only up to a certain point. It does not make any sense to speak of an inside of an electron. It is not like a piece of cheese that occupies a definite space that you can cut and look inside of.

You may or may not understand this depending on how much physics you have taken, so I'm not knocking your intelligence. As others have pointed out you do seem to be a bit thick headed when it comes to your views though.



Exactly. The images that people see of fundamental particles are  illustrated in a way that will allow the average Joe to grasp the workings of the atom, which they try to relate to non-quantum sized objects.

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Re: Gimme some interesting stuff to research/get involved with
« Reply #32 on: March 16, 2011, 09:10:22 PM »
if an elementary particle exists, its made of something. whatever its made of has an "inside". and whatever that is has an "inside". continually to infinite.


its not something abstract. its reality. wrap your head around it.

And you plan to cut particles how exactly?

To OP, research Zero Point energy, shit is fascinating.

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« Reply #33 on: March 16, 2011, 09:15:01 PM »
Exactly. The images that people see of fundamental particles are  illustrated in a way that will allow the average Joe to grasp the workings of the atom, which they try to relate to non-quantum sized objects.
yes, a good example is Bohr's atomic model of an atom with a nucleus and electrons neatly revolving around it in circular orbits.
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« Reply #34 on: March 16, 2011, 09:17:41 PM »
To the OP, I would read this website in its entirety:

http://www.humanjourney.us/

Excerpt from intro:
Introduction to The Human Journey

The parent Institute of this project, The Institute for the Study of Human Knowledge, was founded on providing the basis of information available to the general public, primarily about what it means to be human: our capacities, our weaknesses, our potential. This project is under the direction of Robert Ornstein with contributions from associates of ISHK: Click to see the list of names.

We inaugurate this website – the story of our journey – with a long view of the deep background of our species, the forces that made us, some significant steps along the way, and a view to the future.

If we don’t know our history, social and biological, we can’t adapt fully to a world that we made.
Of course one website, especially one helmed by a small group of people in a small institute, can’t be comprehensive. We’re concentrating on a few areas where information isn’t represented well. And there is so much work published, streamed along the internet, that we’ve also recommended many of the most useful works in print, on the web and on disk.


Where to begin is always a question. Where, do we say, humanity began? And what made those early ancestors “human”? We’re not going to be overly precise in this since there isn’t much evidence, and it’s scattered throughout the world. We first present a brief overview of the ancestors of modern human beings with a set of illustrations and timelines so one can keep the complex history better in mind. We have reviewed selected works of particular relevance to our evolutionary journey. Throughout this website we have links to other websites, and book recommendations for those wishing to go further.

So its beginnings are not at the origin of the universe, or the billions of years of the development of life from the primordial slush (everyone says “primordial soup,” but that’s too appetizing). And, of course, there has been an explosion of interest in early human beings, with the development of genetic testing, carbon-dating and countless archaeological field workers. We are going to choose a few points of interest that are of the most importance to our past and future. Where there is superior work by a large organization, we’ll point you to it, and for all important work, we’ll provide a summary and illustrations as well as, of course, links.

The future depends on how we understand who we are, and how the past has made us so: what is unchanging about Human Nature, and what we CAN and MUST change to face a world that is far different from our ancestors’.
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Re: Gimme some interesting stuff to research/get involved with
« Reply #35 on: March 16, 2011, 09:48:57 PM »
all this chaos theory shit is useless and will render you a useless tool whos only outlet is publication of regurgitated hypotheses of every research hoopin on the bus of what is 'believed' the norm with science

issac newton working on mathematics in his spare time and made advancements that no one knew was there, how long did they think the earth was flat,

but this realativity may be backed by 'pictures' of space but its all theory and useless

study infinitesimal calculus - and algorhytms - you can program and kickass at video games, fix your girls computer, all kinds of shit instead of talking of some area in space we'll never see and your female partner could give a shit abuot at dinner time ;)

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« Reply #36 on: March 17, 2011, 05:19:50 PM »
I am quite sure of what I'm talking about; I suspect that you have not taken a physics course beyond the most elementary one. So I don't blame you for having this view. This is truly not a knock on you.

My simple point was that matter is not infinitely divisible: there is such a thing as elementary particles that can NOT be divided any further.

your concept of what matter consists of is a rudimentary one that is useful only up to a certain point. It does not make any sense to speak of an inside of an electron. It is not like a piece of cheese that occupies a definite space that you can cut and look inside of.

You may or may not understand this depending on how much physics you have taken, so I'm not knocking your intelligence. As others have pointed out you do seem to be a bit thick headed when it comes to your views though.



youve been fooled into thinking that science has more of a grasp on things than it really does.

science will never find "the answer". fact.



and if an elemantary particle exist, it does have an "inside". if there is no way of measuring it, then it doesnt exist. if it does exist, then we can measur eit, and it is infinitely divisible. 

there is no debate about this.

i want you to think about it. you already made it clear that you understood the fact of the matter, but you said it was abstract. take that "abstract" idea, and make it reality. because it is reality. its not abstract. its the fact of the matter.

im not hard headed, in fact i love being wrong.  i am a staunch defender of the truth and a fierce advocate of common sense.



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Re: Gimme some interesting stuff to research/get involved with
« Reply #37 on: March 17, 2011, 05:37:19 PM »
I am quite sure of what I'm talking about; I suspect that you have not taken a physics course beyond the most elementary one. So I don't blame you for having this view. This is truly not a knock on you.

My simple point was that matter is not infinitely divisible: there is such a thing as elementary particles that can NOT be divided any further.

your concept of what matter consists of is a rudimentary one that is useful only up to a certain point. It does not make any sense to speak of an inside of an electron. It is not like a piece of cheese that occupies a definite space that you can cut and look inside of.

You may or may not understand this depending on how much physics you have taken, so I'm not knocking your intelligence. As others have pointed out you do seem to be a bit thick headed when it comes to your views though.


I am fascinated  your posts I am certain you have the knowledge to help the city but do you think you can make something to help the city with your knowledge that is rare considering not many here have had the educations youve been attained?
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« Reply #38 on: March 17, 2011, 05:49:05 PM »
Time Travel.

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« Reply #39 on: March 17, 2011, 05:49:42 PM »


to lighten the mood