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My California Move - by Casey Viator
« on: April 28, 2011, 11:42:17 AM »
 
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After an eight-year job, I felt the time was right to move to California to compete against the big boys. So I loaded up my car and a U-Haul, my Harley and my exercise machines, and headed west. Moving from a little town, Lake Helen, in Florida to a huge metropolitan area like Los Angeles was a huge culture shock for me. Luckily, I had plenty of contacts in L.A. and I would need them to survive in that concrete jungle.

When I arrived in L.A., Mike Mentzer offered his hospitality to me in his Santa Monica home. I ended up staying with him for a week until I could find a place close to where I would be training and near the beach. The Santa Monica weather was great for hard workouts as the mornings were cool all year round. Mike and I started training together at Gold’s Gym. This was my first training spot in Santa Monica. Every morning at 10:30am, I’d cruise up in front of the gym on my Harley (low rider) and this usually got everyone’s attention due to the extremely loud exhaust pipes. Mike and I would start by warming up–doing sit-ups and crunches by the hundreds.

It’s important to note one thing–there was a big difference in the attitudes of bodybuilders in the old days versus today. Back then, everyone in the gym helped each other out and trained together in the pro bodybuilding world. Whoever turned out the best, was the best. No arguments and no grudges. We all worked hard and competed against one another for the good of the sport and ourselves. Times have changed.

Once we were done our warm ups, I’d grunt, “Lets rock” and we’d pile the heavy weights on. Leg day workouts usually created a crowd of spectators, with Mike and I grunting out some remarkable poundages. We used to have a little game called Rep Bet. Rep Bet would be called, which means you got paid $5.00 for each extra rep you could get past the competition on that day. I rarely lost this bet and it was a good form of motivation.

Mike was a real hard driver and motivator. Ray would sometimes step in the training and then the weights would really fly and our collective intensity would spike to a higher level. Ray was quiet and short-tempered, two qualities that make for a great training partner in my opinion. There was no clowning around or talking. We were just grinding the heavy weights with proper assistance at the end of sets, with every rep being forced out. Three of us training at one time meant there was not time for resting if we all wanted to maintain a real pump in a given muscle group.

Gold’s Gym where we trained was famous. Many foreign bodybuilders and trainers from the East Coast would just show up at the front door with luggage in hand, straight from the airport. I still remember one mid-summer morning when a young Dorian Yates showed up with a gleam in his eye. I think he was all of 19 years old, with a shaved head and very little muscle on his frame. This kid came all the way from England, just to be inspired to train with great intensity.

We treated him good and let him watch our grueling training sessions. He was wide-eyed and appreciated every minute of the hard training. I remember he was worried about his tattoos back then, and how it would affect the judges when he started competing. We all told him that the tattoos would not help in the judges’ eyes, that this form of personal expression was frowned upon. He said he was trying to get them removed, which was a step in the right direction.

The next time I saw Dorian, he had packed on 100 pounds of pure muscle and was winning shows in Europe. He turned pro just after that, and the rest is history. To me, in the beginning Dorian had just an average frame, but above average motivation. Boy, did he surprise everyone with his size and shape later in his career. In my mind, he’s still one of the best Olympians to date.

Cardio-vascular training was a must during preparation for a contest. In Santa Monica, Mike, Ray and I would jog 3 miles to the Santa Monica stairs, on 3rd Street. The stairs consisted of 175 steps right up the side of a cliff. At the top, we had great mountain views. It’s a famous place with many tourist and locals all making there way up and down the long trek.

Back then, all the pros used those stairs to get that last amount of body fat off of their bodies. Many advanced athletes even used a 30-50 lb. weight vest to make the stairs even harder. We usually climbed up and down three times before calling it quits. After a grueling workout this was the finishing touch for a complete workout. Plus you were out in the (sometimes) fresh air, very close to the beach.

I usually slept like a bear after all this work. I felt like I accomplished something by doing this type of training, and I was. Soreness was an everyday welcomed result of this type of training (if you keep up this pace and determination, you can blast through any sticking point). Sometimes my muscles would get so sore, I would run a high fever from the intense workouts. But plenty of rest and good food turned this work into results and you could almost see me grow after nearly every workout.

As far as eating goes, it was fairly easy to get lots of protein and low carbohydrate meals. There were many Swedish Smorgasbord restaurants and other all-you-can-eat types of places located around town. The area was a hungry bodybuilders delight. We’d gorge on roast beef, cottage cheese and scrambled eggs every chance we could get. The owners of these restaurants frowned upon our arrival but they couldn’t say much. Hey, the sign said “all you can eat” after all. One time, I remember Mike eating a whole stick of butter and liking it during the off-season. That Mike was a wild man.

One month before a pro show, I had a standing weekly appointment to see Joe Weider for lunch and a posing session at his main office in Woodland Hills, California. He would meet me in his large conference room and he would tell everyone else to leave. There, we practiced muscle control and the proper positioning of poses. The sessions lasted about one hour and they were grueling. I usually had a circle sweat on the floor around me when he put me through this flexing practice.

 

Joe was a busy man, but he always took the time to help me with my stage presentation. It helped in the long run, even though I got really sore from these flexing sessions. After this, we’d get a bite to eat and he would go back to work, running his empire. Joe kept in close contact with the bodybuilders he sponsored, and if he liked you, he helped all he could. To this day, I have never seen a man so into his job like Joe Weider was. Obsessed… That’s what he was.

Arnold was another person who helped me a lot with my posing. When I was contest ready, he would invite me to his residence in Santa Monica and we would practice posing, trying to get the right posing angles for hours. Arnold really knew how to make you present your muscles to your advantage, and it helped later when I stood before the judges.

I was starting to rack up wins at the Grand Prix circuit. It was the summer of 1980. Because of pre-contest diets and mood swings, Mike and I agreed it would be best to train by ourselves. I was in the middle of the five Grand Prix shows and the Olympia, and Mike was getting ready for his last show, the Olympia.

I decided to train after the gym had closed which was 10:00pm. It was quiet at that time, and I could get some intense concentration in my workouts, away from the fans who wanted autographs and who wanted to talk and train with me. The training was going well until my friends caught on to my “after hours” time. Then one by one the gym started getting busy after closing time. Hulk Hogan, Tony Carroll, even Jane Fonda showed up late one night. Pete Gymkowski (the owner) would come and train also.

A slew of people would even bring in coffee and food, and it seemed like no one could sleep in L.A. It was great. Even Rachael Mclish would show up along with Lisa Lyons and other beauties.

After the late night training, we’d all go somewhere and eat a low calorie meal. The only problem I had with training after hours is that I’d turn into a late night vampire. I slept during the day and grocery shopped in the middle of the night. Banking? That was a hassle too.

On the plus side, I got better pumps and could concentrate better. This helped me a ton with my muscle gains and getting cut up. I can still remember walking out of the gym at 4:00 am into early morning with steam radiating off of my wet gym clothes. It was often cold at that time of the day by the beach with lots of fog and wind. Staying warm in wet gym clothes was always a challenge. I did what I could to cover up and keep warm after training and on the way home.



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Re: My California Move - by Casey Viator
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2011, 11:44:40 AM »
 :)Fun post, man.

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Re: My California Move - by Casey Viator
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2011, 11:44:49 AM »
Part 2


http://www.universalusa.com/Community/Train/Articles/My-California-Move-Part-II?ref=73

When I started bodybuilding back in the 60s, I admired Larry Scott’s deltoid development. He had fantastically thick delts, and I resolved to one day surpass his shoulder development. Larry was cursed with a narrow clavicle width structure, so he had to develop incredibly thick deltoids to show any shoulder-to-waist differential. Larry succeeded to such and extent that he won 2 Mr. Olympia titles. It’s essential for competing bodybuilders to have a good V shape–wide shoulders and a narrow waist and hips. The deltoids have to be well rounded and fully developed because you simply can’t hide poor delt development at a contest. They are visible in every pose, and if they are flat and unimpressive, you’re done in the eyes of the judges; they won’t give you a second glance.

Before I get into what I did, let me talk a little about clavicle width. I have found a great way to measure your clavicle width, so you can judge for yourself how much shoulder width you actually will be able to have overall. To find your clavicle width, reach around and put your fingers on one of your clavicle bones. Run your fingers outward until they contact the ball-like protuberance at the outer end of the bone, at the point where your upper arm bone articulates with the clavicle. If you measure the length of your clavicle and it’s 10 inches are more, you have the potential for great, wide shoulders. You could potentially develop deltoids that extend six inches out from this clavicle ball, on each side. This would be the type of look every bodybuilder has been trying to accomplish all their lives and your deltoids would be monstrous.

My own shoulder thickness was one of the problems I faced competing in the 1979 Pro Canada Cup. Only living and training in California a month, I was still stuck on brief Nautilus training theories that I had used to win amateur shows. My deltoids weren’t as impressive as they should be, at that point. I placed 5th in the Pro Canada Cup show, my first pro show after not competing for eight years. I took that defeat philosophically. However, I vowed to remedy the shoulder problem. The main reason I moved to California was to be a winning bodybuilder. Any old routines or advice I had from the past would have to be thought over and reconsidered, if I were to score higher in these pro events.

Training in California with Mike Mentzer was a great learning experience for me. When I arrived in California, I was doing 4-5 sets per shoulder workout for my shoulders. After my first show low placing, I started doing 10-12 sets, very heavy sets for shoulders. The extra sets gave me added mass and much more sharpness all over. At the rate I was progressing, you couldn’t get me back to my old type of workouts with a bulldozer–no time for cutting corners. Mike and I worked our deltoids 2 times a week, in conjunction with full leg training.

I know many doubters today will scream about all the sets we did at that time. The fact is, this is what we did for maximum muscle growth and separation back then. Other training routines, such as HIT, we employed. The intensity part of HIT was definitely still a part of our contest preparation, but not the low set count for any body part. Negative only training was another aspect of HIT that we used as part of getting ready for pro shows. Negative training created muscle definition and separation that could not be accomplished by any other method of training.

We used negative movements almost every workout, lowering the weight of an exercise for the count of 8 seconds. We were trying to win shows, not see how fast we could get out of the gym. Extra time training body parts didn’t matter to us. Winning bodybuilding shows are all that mattered. The truth was, only a small percentage of bodybuilders could ever get to our muscular levels at that point. Sure, were many ways to develop a good physique and many could achieve that. But to develop a super great physique took a much higher level of training, and this required extra time and sets in the gym.

I always trained my deltoids first in the day’s workout. By training shoulders in beginning of the workout, it allowed me to hit a relatively weaker body part when my energy levels and enthusiasm were at their peak. Mike and I started our deltoid workout with the Nautilus Double Shoulder Machine. We would do the side lateral, one arm at a time, performing 8-10 reps with the whole machine stack plus a 50-pound plate hooked to the stack. I used to get frustrated at having to handle such puny weight stacks on the machines, but Mike and I were having trouble getting the extra weight we needed to complete full sets on most of the machines. The side laterals were super-setted with overhead presses. We would do 4 super sets on this machine. I was doing far less machine work now than I had earlier in my career. By adding variety into my routine with free weights and dumbbells, my muscle gains and definition were greatly improved.

Next, Mike and I would move over to a Universal Gym machine for 4 sets of standing front presses. We would face the machine for this type of standing overhead press. After that, we moved to the Peck Deck Machine for some rear delt rowing. We’d do 4 heavy sets to tie in our lats and rear delts. When a contest approached, we’d switch the peck deck machine for bent-over cable laterals, as this exercise really helped with delt striations. Upright barbell rows were the fifth movement in our deltoid workout. We’d do this movement to tie in the traps with the deltoids, and we’d perform a minimum of 4 set. Standing cable side laterals were our sixth and final delt exercise. I really loved this movement as it would totally isolate the lateral head of the deltoid.

Mike and I both agreed that cable work helped with added deltoid striations all around. When I did this type of workout, I got a deep burn in the shoulder areas from the intensity and thoroughness of the attack. I have only gotten such gains and pumps by going swiftly between sets and using extremely heavy weights with good form on the movements. With the routine Mike and I had back then, I was confident I would eventually obtain well-rounded, standout 6” thick delts. When I finally achieved them, I thanked my lucky stars for moving to California and getting to know this specialized shoulder training.




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Re: My California Move - by Casey Viator
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2011, 12:02:28 PM »
Great read. Thanks.

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Re: My California Move - by Casey Viator
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2011, 12:16:05 PM »
 :-\



One month before a pro show, I had a standing weekly appointment to see Joe Weider for lunch and a posing session at his main office in Woodland Hills, California. He would meet me in his large conference room and he would tell everyone else to leave. There, we practiced muscle control and the proper positioning of poses. The sessions lasted about one hour and they were grueling. I usually had a circle sweat on the floor around me when he put me through this flexing practice.

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Re: My California Move - by Casey Viator
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2011, 12:35:22 PM »
I don't understand, Why didn't he mention Vince Basile?

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Re: My California Move - by Casey Viator
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2011, 12:41:01 PM »
Another druggie.  Anyone know what he looks like today?  He couldn't get laid in a whorehouse with a fistful of fifties.

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Re: My California Move - by Casey Viator
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2011, 12:41:17 PM »
I still remember one mid-summer morning when a young Dorian Yates showed up with a gleam in his eye. I think he was all of 19 years old, with a shaved head and very little muscle on his frame. This kid came all the way from England, just to be inspired to train with great intensity.

We treated him good and let him watch our grueling training sessions. He was wide-eyed and appreciated every minute of the hard training. I remember he was worried about his tattoos back then, and how it would affect the judges when he started competing. We all told him that the tattoos would not help in the judges’ eyes, that this form of personal expression was frowned upon. He said he was trying to get them removed, which was a step in the right direction.
???

Dorian is training in LA at 19 with shaved head? Never heard this before.

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Re: My California Move - by Casey Viator
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2011, 12:50:48 PM »
That's not Keith

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Re: My California Move - by Casey Viator
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2011, 12:52:33 PM »
that shit reads like a playgirl contribution.
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Re: My California Move - by Casey Viator
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2011, 12:53:37 PM »
:-\



One month before a pro show, I had a standing weekly appointment to see Joe Weider for lunch and a posing session at his main office in Woodland Hills, California. He would meet me in his large conference room and he would tell everyone else to leave. There, we practiced muscle control and the proper positioning of poses. The sessions lasted about one hour and they were grueling. I usually had a circle sweat on the floor around me when he put me through this flexing practice.


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Re: My California Move - by Casey Viator
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2011, 12:54:12 PM »
???

Dorian is training in LA at 19 with shaved head? Never heard this before.

thought he'd of mentioned it in his books?

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Re: My California Move - by Casey Viator
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2011, 01:05:56 PM »
???

Dorian is training in LA at 19 with shaved head? Never heard this before.

Never heard this before either.  Dorian always stated that he began training in May of '83 at 21 years old.  He "dabbled" with the weights before that, but never mentioned a trip to CA.

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Re: My California Move - by Casey Viator
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2011, 01:10:00 PM »
Spend an hour with Joe at his office posing ?????? 

even them play for pay was available for the broke arse shaved apes migrating to Santa Monica.

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Re: My California Move - by Casey Viator
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2011, 01:10:25 PM »
Good read!
I wish I was living in that era!

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Re: My California Move - by Casey Viator
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2011, 01:17:58 PM »
That was most definitely an exciting era... would have loved to have done that for 4 to 5 years or so...  70's were cool

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Re: My California Move - by Casey Viator
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2011, 01:31:06 PM »
???

Dorian is training in LA at 19 with shaved head? Never heard this before.


yep me either......  :-\

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Re: My California Move - by Casey Viator
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2011, 01:51:11 PM »
Great read.
lol at the posing with Weider - never gets old.
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Re: My California Move - by Casey Viator
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2011, 06:31:04 AM »
???

Dorian is training in LA at 19 with shaved head? Never heard this before.
I wrote to Dorian...  ;D


Hey Dorian. How are you doing? Is it true that you were in LA at 19 with shaved head and watched Mike Mentzer and Casey Viator train? I just heard a story and I'm curious...never heard this before. Take care my friend!

No....somebodys kinky fantasy maybe?...lol




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Re: My California Move - by Casey Viator
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2011, 06:44:10 AM »
I wrote to Dorian...  ;D


Hey Dorian. How are you doing? Is it true that you were in LA at 19 with shaved head and watched Mike Mentzer and Casey Viator train? I just heard a story and I'm curious...never heard this before. Take care my friend!

No....somebodys kinky fantasy maybe?...lol


 ::)


Maybe Casey is use to the good old pre-internet days of bodybuilding when you could make up stories and get away with it. 

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Re: My California Move - by Casey Viator
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2011, 06:52:25 AM »
Casey is full of shit always has been.