now,,fellas i ask you to look above in the posting,,look at the 2 pictures...one fella rarely work out ...some homo that decided to do seo and implents...the othr fellas work out for 20 years so has some thickness but my friends...same exact thing in arm...s e o ,, its not ifs or buts or balonie ,,it is what it is ,,nothing the liars on md say can change the fact this is what it is ,,some have impents ..majority have seo,, the more muscle you have the less fake it will look ...the leaner you are the better it will look...but you have to understand you are dealing here with compulsive liar,,someone who used more than many of the real big boys ,,someone who stoped at nothing only to NEVER become mr o and thus failed his dream,,he is a liar,,he lies consistantly ,,and he will never stop lieing,,along the way he ruined girls that went out and lied for him and were lied BY him,,you fellas need to understant that many in this cult are dealers....many are convicts....liar priest is no bettergh15 approved