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Re: Roy Jones Jr , Ray Edwards, Pudz ...........................
« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2011, 09:02:36 PM »
LOL @ B Hop doing push ups between rounds

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Re: Roy Jones Jr , Ray Edwards, Pudz ...........................
« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2011, 09:23:18 PM »
That was the most Hopkins has ever been hit in his entire career.

Yes

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Re: Roy Jones Jr , Ray Edwards, Pudz ...........................
« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2011, 11:41:41 PM »
He was far from average , the  most important tools in boxing  are reflexes, timing and condition and RJ had it all .


absolutely. i can still vividly recall when he beat Toney in the 1990s....he comes into the ring with same sort of silly get-up on...but when he started to fight.... :o :o :o :o :o :o his speed, reflexes, timing, was absolutely AWESOME :o :o :o, for those here that can recall Jones in the 1990s....he was Extra-ordinary in those departments, IMO sad to see him getting SMASHED bye guys who wouldn't of been good enough as sparring partners in his prime, however as others have correctly said here they all end-up that way....IF they over-stay the Primes which MANY sadly do :( :( :(.

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Re: Roy Jones Jr - Time to hang them up!
« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2011, 01:07:50 AM »
Roy Jones last night
It's time to hang them up





Ray Edwards : Faster than Ali ,hits harder than Tyson, better than Mayweather........... ::)

6'5''  fit 257lbs vs  5'9'' fat 210lbs (with no boxing experience)




HL video
http://www.nowboxing.com/2011/05/video-nfl-football-player-ray-edwards-wins-boxing-debut/18297/





Pudz






And edwards coach says his guy hit HARDER than Tyson on the INSIDE????????? :o :o :o :o gee those "Devastating" BShots Edwards was Landing must be Harder than they looked :-[ :-[ :-[ and those sliky smooth ring skills better than Mayweathers as well.....

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Re: Roy Jones Jr , Ray Edwards, Pudz ...........................
« Reply #29 on: May 22, 2011, 02:59:58 AM »
The truth is Roy relied on phenomenal physical assets. His speed of hand and foot was paralyzing and it made up for a wholesale lack of 'ring generalship AKA boxing skill. As he aged and his reflexes began to fail him he was exposed as the average fighter he really was. Of course he gave us alot of highlight reel knockouts but like I said he was a specimen in his prime. He blew away alot of handpicked opponents. Against the best fighters, guys with less physical ability but more skill, he tended to look average. Look up his fights against Hopkins, Toney or McCallum.

Its ironic that in his heyday he defended his choice of (poor quality) opposition by claiming he wouldnt sacrifice his well being for the sport of boxing yet years later here he is getting his brains beat out in fight after fight.

Wow thanks for stating the obvious. ::) When a boxers reflexes starts to fail and he ages he starts gettin beat on :o Breaking news!

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Re: Roy Jones Jr - Time to hang them up!
« Reply #30 on: May 22, 2011, 03:04:11 AM »
if you dont rate roy jones in his prime you no nothing about boxing, ....

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Re: Roy Jones Jr , Ray Edwards, Pudz ...........................
« Reply #31 on: May 22, 2011, 02:43:26 PM »
Wow thanks for stating the obvious. ::) When a boxers reflexes starts to fail and he ages he starts gettin beat on :o Breaking news!

Truly Great fighters continue to win after their reflexes start to decline...George Foreman, Muhamad Ali and Sugar Ray Robinson are three great examples who were able to win because they learned the craft of boxing even though their reflexes were gone. Once Jonses physical advantages disappered he did not have the skill to win. Yes, he was an average boxer. He could look great against the right opponent. He was never involved in a great fight either. All of his best knockouts were against no name opposition. With the possible exception of Virgil Hill.

Take Pernell Whitaker for example...Long after his prime he was still competetive with De La Hoya and Trinidad because of his skill level. He was never blasted into oblivion like Jones. Because he understood how to slip punches, block puches, circle away from his opponents best punches ( and not into them ala Jones, one basic skill every beginer learns that Jones never did) and otherwise minimize his opponents effectiveness. That is a skill. Jones speed and reflexes were inherent and not learned, he was and is 'chinny', he was never involved in a fight were he displayed heart, courage or determination....Never in a great fight. He capitalized on a weak sport littered with paper tittles and fought only a handful of good fighters. In those fights he looked average. His greatest accomplishment was collecting a handful of alphabet tittles.

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Re: Roy Jones Jr , Ray Edwards, Pudz ...........................
« Reply #32 on: May 22, 2011, 05:13:51 PM »
Truly Great fighters continue to win after their reflexes start to decline...George Foreman, Muhamad Ali and Sugar Ray Robinson are three great examples who were able to win because they learned the craft of boxing even though their reflexes were gone. Once Jonses physical advantages disappered he did not have the skill to win. Yes, he was an average boxer. He could look great against the right opponent. He was never involved in a great fight either. All of his best knockouts were against no name opposition. With the possible exception of Virgil Hill.

Take Pernell Whitaker for example...Long after his prime he was still competetive with De La Hoya and Trinidad because of his skill level. He was never blasted into oblivion like Jones. Because he understood how to slip punches, block puches, circle away from his opponents best punches ( and not into them ala Jones, one basic skill every beginer learns that Jones never did) and otherwise minimize his opponents effectiveness. That is a skill. Jones speed and reflexes were inherent and not learned, he was and is 'chinny', he was never involved in a fight were he displayed heart, courage or determination....Never in a great fight. He capitalized on a weak sport littered with paper tittles and fought only a handful of good fighters. In those fights he looked average. His greatest accomplishment was collecting a handful of alphabet tittles.

you are obviously a jones hater with your observations and critique (makes no sense). I ask you to go back in history and find the fighter who has fought TOP, GREAT competition for even 25% percent of their career? I can save you the trouble...there isn't any. ALL boxers over 85 -90% of their career is vs non top comp to possibles simply because they have to be established and need to make a name...once established they MIGHT...repeat MIGHT fight 2-3 guys their entire career on their level...MIGHT.

There was nobody in jones era while in his prime that could even give him trouble simply because he mastered HIS craft ..HIS style and had physical abilities you will never see again sustained for as long as he sustained them and dominated his class. This guy for over a decade fought vs probably the most number 1 contenders in HISTORY (and beat them all) and they later became champions or were champs. He demolished them ALL.

You need to get real man and stop hating on the guy...in his prime Roy was a freak of nature and NOBODY could stop him outside a prime Ray Robinson MAYBE.

Mark my words..you will never see another dominating boxer like Roy Jones in his prime...ever. He made champions and future champions look like complete clowns in there.

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Re: Roy Jones Jr , Ray Edwards, Pudz ...........................
« Reply #33 on: May 22, 2011, 09:05:50 PM »
You sound like my doctor.  I was bitching that I can't hang with the younger dudes in Basketball anymore and my gym workouts are half assed.  He said "start playing golf".  ::)
You lost that little fire inside, I did for quite awhile.......but it's coming back, numbers are going up, shot some hoops the other day with some 24 year old Marine, lifting strongman stuff......it's a level of aggression that you need to reignite.......
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Roy Jones Jr , Ray Edwards, Pudz ...........................
« Reply #34 on: May 22, 2011, 11:55:40 PM »
you are obviously a jones hater with your observations and critique (makes no sense). I ask you to go back in history and find the fighter who has fought TOP, GREAT competition for even 25% percent of their career? I can save you the trouble...there isn't any. ALL boxers over 85 -90% of their career is vs non top comp to possibles simply because they have to be established and need to make a name...once established they MIGHT...repeat MIGHT fight 2-3 guys their entire career on their level...MIGHT.

There was nobody in jones era while in his prime that could even give him trouble simply because he mastered HIS craft ..HIS style and had physical abilities you will never see again sustained for as long as he sustained them and dominated his class. This guy for over a decade fought vs probably the most number 1 contenders in HISTORY (and beat them all) and they later became champions or were champs. He demolished them ALL.

You need to get real man and stop hating on the guy...in his prime Roy was a freak of nature and NOBODY could stop him outside a prime Ray Robinson MAYBE.

Mark my words..you will never see another dominating boxer like Roy Jones in his prime...ever. He made champions and future champions look like complete clowns in there.

No. You are wrong. I am your father. I will teach you about boxing only if you wil shut up and listen.