It's January 2009 and McCain Palin have just been sworn into office

[Straw Man]

The world economy is collapsing

The US is hemoraging jobs

The US Real Estate Market is collapsing

The major auto manufacturers and collapsing

what does McCain do to change this picture

[240 is Back]

obama did a one-time 787 billion stimulus.

mccain would have likely continued the bush policy (i believe he said he would).


Bush simply pumped little 30 and 50 billion bumps to individual companies.  Obama did it all at once.  not all that much difference...

[Straw Man]

obama did a one-time 787 billion stimulus.

mccain would have likely continued the bush policy (i believe he said he would).

Bush simply pumped little 30 and 50 billion bumps to individual companies.  Obama did it all at once.  not all that much difference...

so McCain would have just continued the policy that helped create and exacerbate the problem in the first place?

[tonymctones]

he doesnt pass a health care bill that does completely the opposite of what its billed to do. That injects major uncertainty into businesses and keeps them from moving out of the dip were in.

He doesnt toy with tax cut sunsets injecting uncertainty into businesses and individuals.

He tries to level off uncertainties for business instead of chasing agendas and keeping the recession going for years to come.

he may have done something like finreg, probably would have been just as useless as the one obama passed.

look mccain sucked but the country needed a president with somewhat conservative values in 2008 not a far left liberal. The ideals that obama has brought to the table have merit and should be discussed but should not have been chased when they did.

[Fury]

Who gives a fuck? Obama was supposed to be the antithesis to McCain and Palin.

Your entire life revolves around pointing the finger at everyone else.

[Straw Man]

he doesnt pass a health care bill that does completely the opposite of what its billed to do. That injects major uncertainty into businesses and keeps them from moving out of the dip were in.

He doesnt toy with tax cut sunsets injecting uncertainty into businesses and individuals.

He tries to level off uncertainties for business instead of chasing agendas and keeping the recession going for years to come.

he may have done something like finreg, probably would have been just as useless as the one obama passed.

look mccain sucked but the country needed a president with somewhat conservative values in 2008 not a far left liberal. The ideals that obama has brought to the table have merit and should be discussed but should not have been chased when they did.

how would any of that sovled the prolem which continues to this day in the credit market and RE market

[tonymctones]

so McCain would have just continued the policy that helped create and exacerbate the problem in the first place?

LOL how did bush help create the problem?

[tonymctones]

how would any of that sovled the prolem which continues to this day in the credit market and RE market

never said anything about it...

the first and most important thing that needed to be done was to stabilize the economy...

obama by virtue of his ideology had done nothing but inject major instability into buisnesses

mccain by virtue of his ideology would have done a better job of stabilizing the economy...

[Straw Man]

LOL how did bush help create the problem?

he didn't

no one did

it just happened while Bush was POTUS

you can't really blame him

he just doubled the deficit and took unemployment from 4.2% to 7.7%

in the last 6 months of his presidency the massive fraud in teh US mortgage market finally came home to roosts.   Virtually every bank on the planet was infected with OUR shitty/fraudulent loans and the banking system starting to crash.  World stock markets crashed, commodity prices crashed (that's why gas prices went down from a high point of ~ $4.5 per gallon in the summer of 2008).   US companies started laying off hundreds of thousands of workers.

NONE of this was Bush's fault and even if it was it all just disappeared the day that Obama took the oath of office

everyone knows that

[Soul Crusher]

No stim bill
No cap n trade
No obamacare
No Dodd frank
No card check
No EPA madness
No NLRB craziness
No world kneepad tour
No freakshow appointees to regulatory agencies
No tax uncertainty and class warfare bullshit
No trashing of business 24 7
No kagan or sotomayor.  
No geithner summers rubin liu et al



You want more straw?

[tonymctones]

LOL so nothing to back up this claim?

so McCain would have just continued the policy that helped create and exacerbate the problem in the first place?

cool story hansel...

[Straw Man]

No stim bill
No cap n trade
No obamacare
No Dodd frank
No card check
No EPA madness
No NLRB craziness
No world kneepad tour
No freakshow appointees to regulatory agencies
No tax uncertainty and class warfare bullshit
No trashing of business 24 7
No kagan or sotomayor.  
No geithner summers rubin liu et al



You want more straw?

again - how does any of that solve the existing problems.

let's just pretend Bush had a 3rd term (you know - the first term of McCain)

The house is still on fire

what do they do to fix the problems

[Soul Crusher]

again - how does any of that solve the existing problems.

let's just pretend Bush had a 3rd term (you know - the first term of McCain)

The house is still on fire

what do they do to fix the problems

Idiot.   Those things have made things drastically worse and have injected massive uncertainty into the economy to where businesses simply will not hire or expand. 

[tonymctones]

never said anything about it...

the first and most important thing that needed to be done was to stabilize the economy...

obama by virtue of his ideology had done nothing but inject major instability into buisnesses

mccain by virtue of his ideology would have done a better job of stabilizing the economy...
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read the part about the first and most important issue straw...