Author Topic: has the future already taken place? much like the sum of numbers on paper?  (Read 3737 times)

Marty Champions

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say we are in a some arangement of the "numerals or years currently" being added up to teh future.2011=77=2088 . thus has the future already taken place philisophically?literally?

much like on paper of an addition  calculation, the future /sum is within instaneous or lightspeed no matter how many years you want to add on the future is much closer or instant within lightspeed
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say we are in a some arangement of the "numerals or years currently" being added up to teh future.2011=77=2088 . thus has the future already taken place philisophically?literally?

much like on paper of an addition  calculation, the future /sum is within instaneous or lightspeed no matter how many years you want to add on the future is much closer or instant within lightspeed
::) This reminds me of top athleets like soccer players who are asked their opinion about politics and stuff because they're famous, still they are dumb as hell for they only know how to kick a ball...

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yes its all taken place we are in a black hole full of black hoes and planet nibiru is near by.

In addition the myans are flying in to greet us using technology developed by Micho Cockatoo.


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Falcon, you must be a trip in real life.

I'd have a beer with you and stalk some hoes.

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the future has already taken place it only depends on what vantage point you are looking from. just like on a math table you can see the beginning numeral and the sum
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Falcon, you must be a trip in real life.

I'd have a beer with you and stalk some hoes.
staalking hoes just for fun is the key to real life happyness and adventure
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nope. free will throws a wrench in that.

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In b4 Newton was a hack.

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nope. free will throws a wrench in that.
You have no freewill. Merely random chemical reactions going on in your brain. Of course yours are all over the place because you are full of toxins and chemicals from drugs. Hope this helps.

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You have no freewill. Merely random chemical reactions going on in your brain. Of course yours are all over the place because you are full of toxins and chemicals from drugs. Hope this helps.
if that was the case there would be no human experience.  every thought, every mental/spiritual happening is directly represented by brain activity.. and brain activity directly affects mental/spiritual happenings as well..


god could create a watch that had no internal gearing. but if the world is to make sense every watch needs to have some kind of mechanical driver going on inside.






that might be a bit over your head though if you think that the exchanging of neurotransmittters between neurons is random... not to mention sufficient mechanical explanation for the entire human experience

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nope. free will throws a wrench in that.
idiot.

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say we are in a some arangement of the "numerals or years currently" being added up to teh future.2011=77=2088 . thus has the future already taken place philisophically?literally?

much like on paper of an addition  calculation, the future /sum is within instaneous or lightspeed no matter how many years you want to add on the future is much closer or instant within lightspeed

I see what you're getting at, but by definition, no, the future hasn't already taken place.  If it had, it could not be the future :)

But if the cyclical universe hypothesis is correct, in a sense, the future has probably "already" taken place.  By that, I mean the universe expands with the Big Bang.  Later comes the Big Crunch.  The process starts all over again.  We could be on Universe Episode 53 right now.  One question is, do the same things happen in each iteration?  For example, in Universe ep. 52, did you write this post?  Did I respond to it?  Did Dorian Cutlerman and Johnny Falcon exist as we know us in previous universes?  Etc. :)



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im open for a debate  :)

Please do not bait the athiest.

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Please do not bait the athiest.
its the least i can do

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nope. free will throws a wrench in that.

your decisions are made for you subconsciously by your brain. when the decision reaches your consciousness you feel you made that "choice".

there is no free will. it's all good.


all your choices have already been made at the start of the universe. you have chosen.

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your decisions are made for you subconsciously by your brain. when the decision reaches your consciousness you feel you made that "choice".

there is no free will. it's all good.


all your choices have already been made at the start of the universe. you have chosen.

when decisions reach where ? reach who ?
 ;)

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when decisions reach where ? reach who ?
 ;)

you are just along for the ride  :)

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I see what you're getting at, but by definition, no, the future hasn't already taken place.  If it had, it could not be the future :)

But if the cyclical universe hypothesis is correct, in a sense, the future has probably "already" taken place.  By that, I mean the universe expands with the Big Bang.  Later comes the Big Crunch.  The process starts all over again.  We could be on Universe Episode 53 right now.  One question is, do the same things happen in each iteration?  For example, in Universe ep. 52, did you write this post?  Did I respond to it?  Did Dorian Cutlerman and Johnny Falcon exist as we know us in previous universes?  Etc. :)




not quite understanding your example but then again i do, does every big bang ending with a big crunch to another big bang could mean something different happening every time wich is most likely the case

going back in time has alot more potential than going foward, after all we look back in time at a star , so a good imagination and science can help us to view long ago at nearly the start of all things. thus like a math equation we can look at the beginning "set" and theorize on the end.

WE HAVE YET TO LOOK BACK even though we have great potential to do so because any distant object is like a mirror back in time

no the future or even far distant future is infront of us or the next thing just like on paper
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you are just along for the ride  :)

yes we are just veiwing the result of dna arrangements/chemical combos in our body. we cant really make ourselves feel more than one way because the preordained parameters that we feel comfortable acting within if you catch my drift. dna has set a realm of probabilities on our actions basically
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you are just along for the ride  :)
who is along for the ride? what is that thing that is experiencing the 'ride'?



the answer is that if reality was as you describe there would be no 'experiencer', there would be no you, no I. the body would make decisions on its own and execute them on its own. there is no need for some kind of transcendental non-transcendental observer of all the physiological reactions to external stimuli




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and all that on a bbing forum? :o :o you guys should have become scientists instead of bodybuilders?