New polls: Obama’s off base

[headhuntersix]

Ol Barry is in tons of trouble......quit now.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/view/2011_0727new_polls_obamas_off_base_support_waning_even_among_liberal_backers/srvc=home&position=0

Even here in bluest Massachusetts, some of President Obama’s stalwarts say their support for the liberal darling is slipping — as a new poll suggests the numbers are plummeting in the president’s base and a call has emerged from the left for a primary challenge.
 
“Our expectations were high, and the disappointment started happening early and often,” said state Rep. Denise Provost (D-Somerville), a big backer in 2008, now bothered by Obama’s snub to Harvard professor Elizabeth Warren and his extension of tax breaks.
 
“He needs to stop spending money on the war and sending our youth overseas, and stop spending our money to kill other people,” said Mel King, a progressive community activist and former Boston mayoral candidate, who said he has become disillusioned by Obama’s decision to continue the war in Afghanistan. “That’s one issue that I think he really needs to step up on.”

 

A Washington Post/ABC News poll suggests the promise of hope and change has soured amid high unemployment and a stubborn deadlock over the debt ceiling dragging on with no end in sight. Obama has lost in two key groups — progressive Democrats and blacks — who helped put him over the top in 2008.
 
The percentage of liberal Democrats strongly supporting Obama’s job record has fallen 22 points, from 53 percent last year to 31 percent now. And the number of blacks believing Obama has helped the economy has tumbled from 77 percent in October to just more than 50 percent, the Post reported.
 
One left-leaning senator, independent Bernie Sanders of Vermont, has even suggested it would be a “good idea” for Obama to face a primary challenger to pull him back to his liberal roots.
 
There was some good poll news for Obama: 65 percent of Americans disapprove of the way the GOP is handling job creation, compared to 52 percent for Obama.
 
And in Roxbury yesterday, many said the president deserves more time to turn around the devastating economy crisis he inherited.
 
“He’s fixing up a lot of stuff that was already messed up,” said Gregory Holder, 50, a cook from Mattapan. “. . . He’s only one person — he can only do so much. Everybody has to work with him.”
 
Serena Grooms, 46, of Roxbury, a hospital administrative assistant, said Obama was saddled with a “full load” upon becoming president.
 
“I still support him. I don’t hold him accountable,” Grooms said. “I think he has a tough situation that he’s dealing with and it’s a hard mouth to fill.”
 
Inez Pressey, 60, a high school teacher from Roslindale, said she thinks the country is healing. Her two grandchildren — one in Afghanistan and another in Iraq — aren’t staying for the extended overseas stints they once were, and her other grandchildren are starting to find summer jobs again.
 
“For any president coming after when the economy is bad, trying to build it back up, it’s going to take time,” she said. “It’s much better than what it was. Much better.”
 
The Rev. William Dickerson of Greater Love Tabernacle in Dorchester, who said he prays for the president to make the right decisions, is standing by Obama: “He’s leading in challenging times,” he said.
 
Provost countered that Obama bungled the economic recovery and now supporters are closely watching how he handles debt-ceiling talks: “Expectations about the state of the economy and nature of the recovery we could expect weren’t well thought through,” she said.
 
King added, “Nobody seems to be talking about the number of youth dying on our streets. It seems to me that we need to be focusing on that,” he added

[Soul Crusher]

95ers are fucking idiots.   Seriously - there is no dumber and more abused part of the electorate than the beaten wives club known as the 95ers.  Just embarassing.   

[MCWAY]

"Hope and Change" don't pay the rent. And, apparently they don't pay student loans, either.

Under Obama, Millennials move into the GOP column


Most presidents affect the standing of their political parties. Ronald Reagan advanced his party's standing among young voters. So did Bill Clinton.
In his first term, George W. Bush helped Republicans equal Democrats in party identification in the 2004 exit poll -- the first time that happened since polling began.

But in his second term Bush proved toxic to the Republican label. The Pew Research Center showed Democrats with a 51 to 39 percent party identification edge over Republicans in its 2008 polls.

Now Pew Research has come out has come out with figures for 2011. They're not good news for Barack Obama and the Democrats.

The Democratic party identification edge has been reduced to 47 to 43 percent. That's a 4-point drop for Democrats and a 4-point rise for Republicans since 2008.

The Pew analysts note, as if they were analyzing a growth stock, that the Republicans' numbers haven't improved since 2010. But the 2010 numbers yielded a 52 to 45 percent Republican lead in the popular vote for the House.

If -- and it's always a big if -- Republicans can maintain that standing in party identification, they should be in fine shape in November 2012, even with increased presidential year turnout.

It's interesting to see which groups have moved most in party identification.

As the Pew analysts note, there has been little change among blacks, who are overwhelmingly Democratic. Hispanics come in at 64 to 22 percent Democratic, somewhat better for the president's party than last year, when they voted 60 to 38 percent Democratic in House elections.

But there has been big movement among whites. In 2008 they were 51 to 40 percent Republican. In the first half of 2011 they were 56 to 35 percent Republican -- more Republican than Southern whites were three years ago.

The most noteworthy movement among whites has been among voters under 30, the so-called Millennial generation. Millennials voted 66 to 32 percent for Barack Obama in 2008 and identified as Democrats rather than Republicans by a 60 to 32 percent margin.

But white Millennials have been moving away from the Democrats. The Democratic edge in party identification among white Millennials dropped from 7 points in 2008 to 3 points in 2009 to a 1-point Republican edge in 2010 and an 11-point Republican lead in 2011.

There have been shifts of similar magnitude among whites who are low-income, who have no more than a high school education, and who live in the Midwest.

It's not hard to come up with plausible reasons for these changes. Obama campaigned as the champion of "hope and change" in 2008 and assured crowds of young people that "We are the change we are seeking."

But the change they have seen is anything but hopeful. Youth unemployment rates have been at historic highs. Young people have seen their college degrees produce little in the way of job offers.

They are choosing more often to keep living with their parents. From the Obama Democrats they have gotten only a promise that "children" up to age 26 can stay on Mommy and Daddy's health insurance plans.

In the wake of the 2008 election, I argued that there was a tension between the way Millennials lived their lives -- creating their own iPod playlists, designing their own Facebook pages -- and the one-size-fits-all, industrial-era welfare-state policies of the Obama Democrats.

Instead of allowing Millennials space in which they can choose their own futures, the Obama Democrats' policies have produced a low-growth economy in which their alternatives are limited and they are forced to make do with what they can scrounge.

There is little evidence that the Millennials believe their plight can be relieved and opportunities opened up by slapping higher taxes on Bill Gates and Steve Jobs or by restricting deductions for corporate jets, as Barack Obama urged in his Monday night speech calling for tax increases (although Senate Democrats gave up on them) in debt-ceiling legislation.

The intended purpose of legislation like the stimulus package and Obamacare was to improve the situations of those least able to take care of themselves -- the young, the less educated, the low-skilled. But it is just such groups that, the Pew Research Center numbers show, have been moving away from the president's party. An instructive achievement, no?


http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/2011/07/under-obama-millennials-move-gop-column

[Soul Crusher]

Its going to be simple: 



"Are you better off than you were 4 years ago?"

[MCWAY]

Its going to be simple:  



"Are you better off than you were 4 years ago?"

That can be answered succintly in two words: HELL, NO!!!

[Soul Crusher]

That can be answered succintly in two words: HELL, NO!!!

I can't wait to see the pieces of fecal matter screaming "4 more years"   without answering the logical next question "of what?"