Johnny Falcon: An Idea for you.

[smoothasf]

Lmao falcon you are one weird mother fucker lol

[Marty Champions]

wisdom 

the thing is sometimes alot of the times its very debatable if that cow is more important than a person to be on this earth


an animal is innocent. yes it sucks if you hit a deer in your car oh well it dies, otherwise just leave the animals alone , let them become more comfortable around humans and watch peace reign supreme.

alot of these animals could be bred and contained soley for there manuer making purposes, they have great uses these animals just takes a smart herder/cowboy to let the animals do there job

animals dont mind labor as long as they have grass to eat and that we dont abuse them, they will be happy. and we can rest easier at night that we are not to blame for another sensless slaughtering

[The Ugly]

the thing is sometimes alot of the times its very debatable if that cow is more important than a person to be on this earth


an animal is innocent. just leave the animals alone , let them become more comfortable around humans and watch peace reign supreme.

Like how an innocent lion peacefully devours a gazelle's intestines?

You sound like a child.

[cephissus]

Like how an innocent lion peacefully devours a gazelle's intestines?

You sound like a child.

innocent means not guilty of a crime.  the truth is, everyone is innocent.

[The Ugly]

the truth is, everyone is innocent.

No one is innocent, but people are simply more important than animals.

Are we really arguing this?

[Marty Champions]

Like how an innocent lion peacefully devours a gazelle's intestines?

You sound like a child.

that is in there nature to do that. it is not your instinct to devour bodyparts. its much more sensible to grow the food you eat rather than make a bloody mess

do you want to be thought of as a wild animal or a humain human?

i like to think of myself as atleast a middle class person not some low class scum sociopath with zero compassion.

[The Ugly]

that is in there nature to do that. it is not your instinct to devour bodyparts. its much more sensible to grow the food you eat rather than make a bloody mess

do you want to be thought of as a wild animal or a humain human?

i like to think of myself as atleast a middle class person not some low class scum sociopath with zero compassion.

It's not our nature to eat meat? This must be why the ancients drew pictures of plants on cave walls.

[cephissus]

No one is innocent, but people are simply more important than animals.

Are we really arguing this?

to say someone is "guilty of a crime" is simply to condemn his actions according to your whims (morals) and then pretend as if he had some sort of choice in the matter.

how do you come to the conclusion "people are simply more important than animals"?  If you answer honestly, you'll see this is just another one of your prejudices.  The world has no value in it; value exists inside your head and is as empty as anything else.

[The Ugly]

how do you come to the conclusion "people are simply more important than animals"?  

I really can't debate this. It's not a rational discussion.

[Marty Champions]

It's not our nature to eat meat? This must be why the ancients drew pictures of plants on cave walls.

the brain signals hunger from low blood sugar levels. humans crave sugars because this fixes the hungry feeling

meat was a necessity in those days but now it is FAR from being a necessity for survival

[cephissus]

You are absolutely correct.  No attempt to justify one's prejudices can be called "rational."

[Marty Champions]

the ugly is not a rationally thinking person

[The Ugly]

the ugly is not a rationally thinking person

Are you familiar with irony, Johnny?

[Princess L]

These disgusting excuses for humans deserve nothing less than a long, tortured and painful death.
 

Professional Laboratory and Research Services Undercover Investigation
    
 



http://www.peta.org/features/professional-laboratory-and-research-services.aspx


Update: In a landmark move, a North Carolina grand jury has indicted four individuals who worked at PLRS, including a supervisor, on 14 felony cruelty-to-animals charges. This case marks the first time in U.S. history that laboratory workers have faced felony cruelty charges for their abuse and neglect of animals in a laboratory. And it marks the second criminal prosecution of cruelty to animals used in experimentation. The first prosecution stemmed from PETA's very first undercover investigation, the groundbreaking 1981 Silver Spring monkeys case.

For nine months, a PETA investigator worked undercover inside the filthy, deafeningly loud kennels of PLRS. Inconspicuously tucked away in rural North Carolina, PLRS took money from huge pharmaceutical companies to test insecticides and other chemicals used in companion-animal products. Bayer, Eli Lilly, Novartis, Schering-Plough (now Merck), Sergeant's, Wellmark, and Merial, the maker of Frontline flea and tick products, are some of the corporations that have paid PLRS to force-feed experimental compounds to dogs and cats and smear chemicals onto the animals' skin.

During this investigation, PETA's investigator found that toxicity tests were just part of what the animals endured. Laboratory workers appeared to despise the animals in their care—they yelled and cursed at cowering dogs and cats, calling them "asshole," "motherfuckers," and "bitch"; used pressure hoses to spray water (as well as bleach and other harsh chemicals) on them; and dragged dogs who were too frightened to walk through the facility.

Video evidence shows that terrified cats were pulled from cages by the scruff of the neck while workers screamed in their faces and that a cat was viciously slammed into the metal door of a cage. One worker grabbed a cat and pushed him against a chain-link fence. When the cat fearfully clutched at the fencing with his claws, the worker jerked him off the fencing, saying that she hoped that the cat's nails had been ripped out.


Dogs at PLRS spent years in cages, either to be used repeatedly in tests or to be kept infested with worms for some future study. They are just like the dogs we share our homes with, but they lived day in and day out without exercise or enrichment, companionship, a scratch behind the ears, or even a kind word from the only people they ever saw.

Many dogs had raw, oozing sores from being forced to live constantly on wet concrete, often in pools of their own urine and waste. Workers didn't even move the dogs when they pressure-sprayed the runs, frightening the animals; soaking them with water, bleach, and soap; and exposing already painful sores to harsh, irritating chemicals.

PLRS didn't bother to keep a veterinarian on staff. Instead, it chose to bring its primary veterinarian in for only one hour most weeks. Animals endured bloody feces, worm infestations, oozing sores, abscessed teeth, hematomas, and pus- and blood-filled infections without receiving adequate veterinary examinations and treatment. Sometimes, the conditions were ineffectively handled by workers who had no credentials or veterinary training.

After a supervisor gave one dog an anesthetic that was past its expiration date (and likely administered too little of it), the supervisor pulled out one of the animal's teeth with a pair of pliers. The dog trembled and twitched in apparent pain, and the supervisor continued with the procedure despite the dog's obvious reaction. Workers repeatedly cut into one dog's tender, blood-filled ear, draining blood and pus but never treating the underlying cause of the dog's suffering and apparently causing the ear to become infected.

Dogs were intentionally subjected to worm infestations for tests, but conditions were so sloppy that dogs who weren't supposed to be part of the study also became infested and were then left untreated.

In one test commissioned by a corporation whose products are sold in grocery stores and drugstores nationwide, a chemical was applied to the necks of 57 cats. The cats immediately suffered seizures, foamed at the mouth, lost vision, and bled from their noses. Despite this, the substance was put on the cats a second time the very same day.

To cut costs, PLRS killed nearly 100 cats, rabbits, and dogs. The company had decided that some of these animals' six daily cups of food were too expensive.

Federal oversight of horrendous facilities such as PLRS is virtually non-existent. In preparation for a U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) inspector's annual visit, which PLRS staff knew to expect in June or July, PLRS employees painted over the rusty surfaces that the USDA had warned them about the previous year and reported that ailing animals had conditions that might merit veterinary care—which the facility's attending veterinarian reportedly advised she would not provide—so that PLRS staff would be "covered" from blame should the inspector inquire about the animals' condition. The inspector's 2010 visit to PLRS, which housed approximately 400 animals at the time, lasted two hours and 15 minutes.

Just one week after PETA released the results of its shocking undercover investigation of PLRS and filed a complaint with the USDA—which resulted in citations against PLRS for dozens of violations of federal animal welfare laws—the North Carolina–based contract animal testing facility surrendered nearly 200 dogs and more than 50 cats and shut its doors. This is a monumental victory and the second time in U.S. history that a laboratory has been forced to surrender animals and close under pressure on the heels of a PETA investigation and while facing a formal USDA investigation. The first time was PETA's landmark Silver Spring monkeys case.

[ManBearPig...]

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/

[Marty Champions]

Are you familiar with irony, Johnny?

no im just a silly guy, you are the one who avoids a rational argument pal

[Rami]

eating meat is a huge mistake imo, this conclusion probably comes to most people sooner or later if they only live long enough. there are even added health benefits, and spiritually to not kill.

we are not even naturally adjusted to be predators. was just a short desperation maneuver used to survive in history when necessary and out of natural habitat. that time is over and works against us now.

unlike a real predator, most people doesn't enjoy and don't feel any natural satisfaction in killing an animal with physical force up close, even with tools. only in defending our self.

because we don't get hungry when seeing a living bird or bull, or a carcass. not even intellectually because we know we don't depend on it,  and not physically because it never became our nature.

it also causes wide spread starvation of fellow humans around the world,

for example Britain lacks areas to grow sufficient animal feed to supply all their slaughter animals. so Britain buys up cheap crop elsewhere to feed slaughter animals with it instead of people,

huge areas of surface are wasted to grow crops for slaughter animals, and the calorie waste of growing meat is in the 100.000 thousands of calories per animal.

[Marty Champions]

eating meat is a huge mistake imo, this conclusion probably comes to most people sooner or later if they only live long enough. there are even added health benefits, and spiritually to not kill.

we are not even naturally adjusted to be predators. was just a short desperation maneuver used to survive in history when necessary and out of natural habitat. that time is over and works against us now.

unlike a real predator, most people doesn't enjoy and don't feel any natural satisfaction in killing an animal with physical force up close, even with tools. only in defending our self.

because we don't get hungry when seeing a living bird or bull, or a carcass. not even intellectually because we know we don't depend on it,  and not physically because it never became our nature.

it also causes wide spread starvation of fellow humans around the world,

for example Britain lacks areas to grow sufficient animal feed to supply all their slaughter animals. so Britain buys up cheap crop elsewhere to feed slaughter animals with it instead of people,

huge areas of surface are wasted to grow crops for slaughter animals, and the calorie waste of growing meat is in the 100.000 thousands of calories per animal.

the whole tooth thing is shot out of proportion when people say we are meant to eat but in more intelligent words we are simply able to eat meat

i found the other day a deers jaw bone that had to be a years old. i saw it a while ago but didnt pick it up. then after some months passed by i picked it up. to much my suprise every tooth was securly lodged in the jaw bone i couldnt even pull a tooth out. the teeth only wiggled slightly proving that a vegetarian diet is superior to bone health. the deer was most likely shot by a local hunter

[Rami]

the whole tooth thing is shot out of proportion when people say we are meant to eat but in more intelligent words we are simply able to eat meat

i found the other day a deers jaw bone that had to be a years old. i saw it a while ago but didnt pick it up. then after some months passed by i picked it up. to much my suprise every tooth was securly lodged in the jaw bone i couldnt even pull a tooth out. the teeth only wiggled slightly proving that a vegetarian diet is superior to bone health. the deer was most likely shot by a local hunter

seen the exact same phenomenon, the acid buildup from digesting all that meat takes calcium from the body to neutralize it

[The True Adonis]

No one is innocent, but people are simply more important than animals.

Are we really arguing this?

The Universe is apathetic to the notion of importance, therefore a human is not more important than anything else contained therein.  Furthermore, a human is an animal, a homo sapien, the fifith ape to be exact, so your conjecture is not only redundant in the least sense, it is also nonsensical in the greater.

Your own pathetic human conceit and anthropocentric prejudice is your yardstick by which you measure greater or lesser than.  It is nobody elses. 

Now listen to Carl Sagan:

[PJim]

The Universe is apathetic to the notion of importance, therefore a human is not more important than anything else contained therein.  Furthermore, a human is an animal, a homo sapien, the fifith ape to be exact, so your conjecture is not only redundant in the least sense, it is also nonsensical in the greater.

Your own pathetic human conceit and anthropocentric prejudice is your yardstick by which you measure greater or lesser than.  It is nobody elses. 

Now listen to Carl Sagan:

I was more or less tempted to post a very similar post myself. When I first heard the Pale Blue Dot speech, I was brought to tears. That, I will readily admit.

[Marty Champions]

seen the exact same phenomenon, the acid buildup from digesting all that meat takes calcium from the body to neutralize it

yeah, it was just really shocking to still be intact with no missing teeth after death lol and there are alot of minority humans with missing teeth from either crack or too much meat

[The Showstoppa]

yeah, it was just really shocking to still be intact with no missing teeth after death lol and there are alot of minority humans with missing teeth from either crack or too much meat

or purple drank...

[Marty Champions]

or purple drank...

the sugar with the meat is bad

but the sugar dranks in a healthy body that isnt plagued by meat will meat good bone health from what ive seen

[chunkramwell]

I've not eaten dairy products intentionally in years.  I see this as key to maintaining a healthy work ethic.