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Re: Birth Control Without Copays Could Become Mandatory
« Reply #25 on: July 25, 2011, 03:30:28 PM »
how are you a moderator? coming from a fellow moderator, you should be able to form cogent arguments and admit when you are wrong. You should also be accountable for false information.

how doesn't it make sense?

What board do you moderate?  

Did you actually read the thread?  I pointed out pretty clearly why I think his 14.9 percent analysis doesn't make any sense:

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It makes zero sense, because you're pulling statistics out of your rear end.  What percentage of kids are born to women who get pregnant solely because they cannot afford birth control?  And how many of those kids are born into "poverty"?  I'm fairly certain you don't know the answer.  (I don't either.)  

And what percentage of those in poverty are of child bearing years?  How many are post-menopausal women?  How many are infertile?  

So no, neither your 14.9 percent figure, nor your 50 percent figure make any sense.  

Do you want to address them, or are you just being a troll?  

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Re: Birth Control Without Copays Could Become Mandatory
« Reply #26 on: July 25, 2011, 03:46:34 PM »
Yeah, in a technical sense Beach is right, I just took Tu to mean the overall picture that most unwanted pregnancies come from the poor.

I'm thinking the opposite though.  Most unwanted pregnancies are those middle-class kids and up that don't want mommy, daddy, neighbors, etc., knowing about it. 

If they're truly poor, more kids could mean more money and wanting more kids.

Who knows though, I haven't actually looked at any stats myself.

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Re: Birth Control Without Copays Could Become Mandatory
« Reply #27 on: July 25, 2011, 03:49:24 PM »
Yeah, in a technical sense Beach is right, I just took Tu to mean the overall picture that most unwanted pregnancies come from the poor.

I'm thinking the opposite though.  Most unwanted pregnancies are those middle-class kids and up that don't want mommy, daddy, neighbors, etc., knowing about it. 

If they're truly poor, more kids could mean more money and wanting more kids.

Who knows though, I haven't actually looked at any stats myself.

Correct.  I haven't looked at the stats either, but it's a pretty big assumption to say that all kids born into poverty are from unwanted pregnancies, where the only reason the woman had the baby was because she couldn't afford birth control. 

I think someone posted stats once (might have tony or even me) about the abortion demographic.  It's not just, or even primarily, poor women from what I recall. 

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Re: Birth Control Without Copays Could Become Mandatory
« Reply #28 on: July 25, 2011, 04:03:53 PM »
Correct.  I haven't looked at the stats either, but it's a pretty big assumption to say that all kids born into poverty are from unwanted pregnancies, where the only reason the woman had the baby was because she couldn't afford birth control. 

I think someone posted stats once (might have tony or even me) about the abortion demographic.  It's not just, or even primarily, poor women from what I recall. 

Of course it's not poor people... Poor people can't afford the abortions.

It still costs money.