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Re: Health Care Premiuims Skyrocketing - Thank you Obama you POFS!!!!
« Reply #25 on: September 27, 2011, 01:08:46 PM »
again from your article:

"There are people who blame everything on the Affordable Care Act, including the weather," he told POLITICO in an interview. "The big increase we see this year is not an increase of the Affordable Care Act.” In fact, he added the health reform legislation contains tools that could restrain cost growth in the future.


Yeah ok - sure going to come down when MILLIONS are put on to Medicaid and State taxes are skyrocketed to pay for this nonsense.

but keep up your bullshit straw  - when obama and his merry band of marxists are sent packing you can sit for 4 years wondering why.     


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Re: Health Care Premiuims Skyrocketing - Thank you Obama you POFS!!!!
« Reply #26 on: September 27, 2011, 01:11:32 PM »
Yeah ok - sure going to come down when MILLIONS are put on to Medicaid and State taxes are skyrocketed to pay for this nonsense.

but keep up your bullshit straw  - when obama and his merry band of marxists are sent packing you can sit for 4 years wondering why.     

I'm quoting the article you posted

if you think it's bullshit then blame yourself

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Re: Health Care Premiuims Skyrocketing - Thank you Obama you POFS!!!!
« Reply #27 on: September 28, 2011, 05:05:06 AM »
I'm quoting the article you posted

if you think it's bullshit then blame yourself

"In a world where some blame almost everything on what they call ObamaCare -- I certainly blame the collapse of my Red Sox on Obamacare -- one thing we can say about the premium increase this year is that it is not because of the Affordable Care Act," Altman told reporters in a conference call on Tuesday.

However, he continued, “Our analysis is that the Affordable Care Act [ObamaCare] could have been responsible for about one-and-a-half percentage points – we say 1 to 2 percentage points – of the increase that we’re documenting this year,” he said.


Which is it? Did ObamaCare not spike up prices at all, or did it spike the prices 1-2%?

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obamacare-has-increased-cost-health-insurance-says-kaiser-foundation

Either way, it's a FLOP, because ObamaCare was supposed to LOWER healthcare premiums.

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Re: Health Care Premiuims Skyrocketing - Thank you Obama you POFS!!!!
« Reply #28 on: September 28, 2011, 05:17:23 AM »
ObamaCare is the reason he is going to get landslided next year and sent packing - no matter who is the nominee. 

He is a disgusting pofs who has put his own cronies and ridiculous ego over the nation. 

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Re: Health Care Premiuims Skyrocketing - Thank you Obama you POFS!!!!
« Reply #29 on: September 28, 2011, 06:39:33 AM »
ObamaCare is the reason he is going to get landslided next year and sent packing - no matter who is the nominee. 

He is a disgusting pofs who has put his own cronies and ridiculous ego over the nation. 

ObamaCare is ONE of the reasons, he's in big, BIG trouble.

He said it would LOWER premiums, not keep them the same or increase them. So, I don't get Straw's complaint.

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« Reply #30 on: September 28, 2011, 06:44:04 AM »
ObamaCare is ONE of the reasons, he's in big, BIG trouble.

He said it would LOWER premiums, not keep them the same or increase them. So, I don't get Straw's complaint.

Straw has nothing but semantics at this point.   

Obama's daily fail machine is so vast and all encompassing its not funny. 

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Re: Health Care Premiuims Skyrocketing - Thank you Obama you POFS!!!!
« Reply #31 on: September 28, 2011, 07:53:01 AM »
Straw has nothing but semantics at this point.   

Obama's daily fail machine is so vast and all encompassing its not funny. 

I posted an article on G&O, because our resident coward is up to his old tricks.

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Re: Health Care Premiuims Skyrocketing - Thank you Obama you POFS!!!!
« Reply #32 on: September 28, 2011, 08:07:03 AM »

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/b649007e-e92e-11e0-af7b-00144feab49a.html#axzz1ZGB2SPzi


Health insurance costs deal blow to Obama
By Alan Rappeport in New York




The cost of health insurance has surged in the US this year, according to a survey of employers, dealing a blow to claims by the Obama administration that healthcare legislation introduced last year would curb costs.

Insurance premiums for family health benefits in 2011 jumped 9 per cent from a year ago to $15,073, according to a study released on Tuesday by the Kaiser Family Foundation. That represented a sharp acceleration from 2010, when premiums rose by a modest 3 per cent, and easily outpaced a 2 per cent rise in wages.

“This year’s 9 per cent increase in premiums is especially painful for workers and employers struggling through a weak recovery,” said Drew Altman, Kaiser’s chief executive.

Health insurance premiums have more than doubled during the past decade and, although the survey reveals some of the early impact of the law, it does not provide reasons for the increase.

Kaiser said that it was beginning to see changes in preventative care benefits and many companies were enrolling young adults into corporate health plans plans because of the law. However, it said that most workers that were already enrolled in company plans are exempt from the law’s provisions.

Matthew Borsch, healthcare analyst at Goldman Sachs, said the increase could be due to the high rate of increase in family coverage, due to a new provision allowing people up to the age of 26 to join their parents’ plan, creating additional costs. He also noted that some measures in the law that were intended to contain costs were watered down.

Critics of the legislation latched on to the report as evidence that the law was failing.

“Policymakers in Washington and the states need to focus on all of the factors that are driving premium increases: soaring prices for medical services, changes in the covered population that has resulted in an older and sicker risk pool, and new benefit and coverage mandates that add to the cost of insurance,” said Karen Ignagni, chief executive of America’s Health Insurance Plans, an industry group.

Critics of the industry argue that insurers should not be raising premiums because they have benefited from low medical utilisation rates due to the prolonged economic downturn deterring people from procedures that are not essential.

The Obama administration offered a rebuttal of the study, arguing that premiums were set last year when insurers anticipated higher medical costs and that premium prices would decline as more provisions in the law were rolled out. Nancy-Ann DeParle, who is President Barack Obama’s deputy chief of staff, said that other measures showed healthcare costs declining and called out insurers for raking in profits.

“The Kaiser report is informative but it’s a look backwards,” Ms DeParle said. “When we look to the future, we know that the Affordable Care Act will help make insurance more affordable for families and businesses across the country


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Re: Health Care Premiuims Skyrocketing - Thank you Obama you POFS!!!!
« Reply #33 on: September 28, 2011, 08:13:48 AM »
And, as stated earlier, he's' aiming for military retirees as well with a proposed increase in price to $520/year for their Tricare Prime benefits.

Keep in mind that Tricare Prime is only, to quote USA Today, "too sweet a deal", if you live in a military city with miltary hospitals or clinics, which you have to use first and foremost. You can't just roll up to any medical center and use it.

Even then, it's on a space-available basis. You take a backseat to active-duty servicemen and their families. If you go a civilian hospital or clinic, you pay out-of-pocket. And, if you got out of network, you pay IN FULL.


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Re: Health Care Premiuims Skyrocketing - Thank you Obama you POFS!!!!
« Reply #34 on: September 30, 2011, 06:06:10 PM »
WOLF: Bending Obamacare’s honesty curve downward (Lies)
The Washington Times ^ | September 30, 2011 | Dr. Milton R. Wolf
Posted on September 30, 2011 8:09:56 PM EDT by jazusamo

Growing list of health care lies plagues president’s overhaul

The Obamacare house of cards is crumbling before our eyes. The Obama administration’s signature piece of legislation brings a sixth of the U.S. economy under federal control, and the writing is on the wall: Obamacare will collapse under the weight of its own false promises. The only mystery left is whether we will allow America to go down with it.

Remember when President Obama claimed over and over again that his health care plan would “bend the cost curve downward”? He even declared resolutely that he would not otherwise sign the bill. Well, add that to the growing list of Obamacare lies.

This is going to be a bumpy flight.

The nonprofit and nonpartisan Kaiser Family Foundation recently released the results of a survey that shakes the president’s health care law right down to its core. Health insurance premiums rose in 2011 to more than $15,000 per family for the first time in American history. Not surprisingly, Obamacare itself is to blame for much of the increase. The forced requirement to include adult “children” on their parents’ insurance up to the age of 26, as just one example, contributed to 20 percent of the increase.

Before Obamacare, the federal Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) projected annual health care spending would increase an average of 6.1 percent per year over the next decade. Despite the promises, after Obamacare passed, CMS recalculated its projections upward to 6.3 percent. Huh? Now the Kaiser survey shows that the actual results for the first year amounted to a 9 percent increase. Mr. Obama bent the cost curve all right - upward.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...