Was Bachmann right about the HPV Vaccine?

[Hugo Chavez]

She's being called out in the media today for talking about a girl who became brain damaged after the vaccine.  Everyone of course calling BS to that.  But wait a second, when I looked this up, this is what I found.

Severe Side Effects
Some people who receive Gardasil may have severe side effects that require medical attention. For example, an allergic reaction to the vaccine can occur. Signs of an allergic reaction include hives, wheezing, problems breathing, itching and a skin rash. Kristi Monson, Pharm.D., and Arthur Schoenstadt, M.D., authors of the eMedTV article "Gardasil Side Effects," note that some people may show symptoms of Guillain-Barré, a disorder that affects the peripheral nervous system, which includes the nerves outside the brain and spinal cord. Symptoms of Guillain-Barré include tingling, weakness and paralysis. A very high fever is another severe side effect of Gardasil.

It's well known that a high fever can cause brain damage.

Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/187789-are-there-any-side-effects-to-gardasil/#ixzz1XtOKpmaf

[240 is Back]

some dangerous shit right there.   FUck you if you tried to make my offspring take it.

but but but wait, you can 'opt out' is their best defense?

Dude, both the repub AND dems in texas legislature were against this foced vaccination.  Perry abused his power and his chief of staff (and now PAC boss) got freaking rich off it - AND merek donated to Perry's campaign.   Fookin blimey.

[Hugo Chavez]

People have died from this vaccine and the CDC and media out there today calling BS on Bachmann for her retardation comment?  LOL, I think dead is worse than brain damage.  They list "high fever" as a possible side effect.  How the hell can CDC and Media say there is no evidense it can damage the brain when "very high fever" is a noted side effect?  Pathetic....  Bachmann did good bringing this up.

[Freeborn126]

The state controlled media is all over Perry's nuts.  He can do no wrong now since he is the chosen one.  Who cares if he used an executive order to force girls to take a dangerous vaccine.  He is still a conservative is the media says he is.

The bilderberg group chose him as the repub. nominee this past june so don't be surprised when he gets it, even though he is one of the most progressive/big government candidates.   

[Soul Crusher]

Bachmann and Paul are still my two top picks in this. 

[Purge_WTF]

The bilderberg group chose him as the repub. nominee this past june so don't be surprised when he gets it, even though he is one of the most progressive/big government candidates.

  That's why I'm not gonna vote for him.

  And forced vaccinations is definitely a no-no. No parental consent, no vaccine.

[kcballer]

Where is the proof she it was a fever caused by the HPV Vaccine that killed her?

Best thing perry ever did. 

[Hugo Chavez]

Where is the proof she it was a fever caused by the HPV Vaccine that killed her?

Best thing perry ever did. 

until the woman comes forward and the story can be looked at there's no proof, but what's the point of crying about proof of that case when there's known cases of death caused by the vaccine.  That's a tad worse than a damaging high fever.  It doesn't get worse than dead does it?

[OzmO]

How about the undead Birther thread?

[The True Adonis]

until the woman comes forward and the story can be looked at there's no proof, but what's the point of crying about proof of that case when there's known cases of death caused by the vaccine.  That's a tad worse than a damaging high fever.  It doesn't get worse than dead does it?

Aspirin is more harmful than the HPV vaccine there genius.

I swear people are getting dumber and dumber and are willing to believe any bullshit conspiracy theory.  Either that or they are just so fucking stupid that they can`t understand what probability means.

[The True Adonis]

Oh brother what are we to do about the Aspirin Crisis?  This is some really dangerous stuff.  Its well known that this can cause Brain Damage.  

http://www.webmd.com/drugs/mono-3-ASPIRIN+-+ORAL.aspx?drugid=1082&drugname=Aspirin+Oral&pagenumber=6

Common side effects of aspirin Oral:
Conditions of Excess Stomach Acid Secretion   Less Severe
Irritation of the Stomach or Intestines   Less Severe
Feel Like Throwing Up   Less Severe
Throwing Up   Less Severe
Heartburn   Less Severe
Stomach Cramps   Less Severe

Rare side effects of aspirin Oral:
Ringing in the Ears   Severe
Hemorrhage Within the Skull   Severe
Bronchospasm   Severe
Stomach or Intestinal Ulcer   Severe
Blood coming from Anus   Severe
Hepatitis caused by Drugs   Severe
Bleeding of the Stomach or Intestines   Severe
Interstitial Nephritis   Severe
Inflammation of Skin caused by an Allergy   Severe
Redness of Skin   Severe
Itching   Severe
Hives   Severe
Drowsiness   Severe
Seizures   Severe
Rash   Severe
Wheezing   Severe
Trouble Breathing   Severe
Life Threatening Allergic Reaction   Severe
Giant Hives   Severe
Reaction due to an Allergy   Severe
A Rupture in the Wall of the Stomach or Intestine   Severe
Hemolytic Anemia   Severe
Anemia   Severe
Large Purple or Brown Skin Blotches   Severe
Decreased Blood Platelets   Severe
Decreased White Blood Cells   Severe
Burning Stomach   Less Severe
Indigestion   Less Severe
Loss of Appetite   Less Severe
Abnormal Liver Function Tests   Less Severe
Collection of Clotted Blood in an Organ, Space or Tissue   Less Severe

[The True Adonis]

 

[Hugo Chavez]

Oh brother what are we to do about the Aspirin Crisis?  This is some really dangerous stuff.  Its well known that this can cause Brain Damage.  

I was unaware that Aspirin had been forced on a population via executive order... Oh wait, it never has been...  People are free to use aspirin or not, it's up to them to know the dangers, when to use it and not to use it.  Nothing wrong with that.  Everything wrong with Perry's forced hpv vaccine.  The only person getting dumber is you.

[The True Adonis]

I was unaware that Aspirin had been forced on a population via executive order... Oh wait, it never has been...  People are free to use aspirin or not, it's up to them to know the dangers, when to use it and not to use it.  Nothing wrong with that.  Everything wrong with Perry's forced hpv vaccine.  The only person getting dumber is you.

Uh, Rick Perry signed an executive order allowing to opt out.  Furthermore, it is required in 20 states (should be all 50) for enrollment in school, just as ALL 50 States require basic Immunizations.

You and the conspiracy know nothings are schmucks who do nothing but spread myths because you believe such hogwash.

[Hugo Chavez]

Uh, Rick Perry signed an executive order allowing to opt out.  Furthermore, it is required in 20 states (should be all 50) for enrollment in school, just as ALL 50 States require basic Immunizations.

You and the conspiracy know nothings are schmucks who do nothing but spread myths because you believe such hogwash.

how many states require you to take aspirin since you're the one who brought that up for analogy   How many states went through a legislative process vs. executive order with HPV?  And yes, we already knew about the opt out.  Many states have opt out options in this area but it still puts the onus on the taxpayer to go through the process which isn't always easy.  That issue has also been raised.

[The True Adonis]

how many states require you to take aspirin since you're the one who brought that up for analogy   How many states went through a legislative process vs. executive order with HPV?  And yes, we already knew about the opt out.  Many states have opt out options in this area but it still puts the onus on the taxpayer to go through the process which isn't always easy.  That issue has also been raised.

What are you even arguing about at this point?

I will summarize:

1. The HPV Vaccine is completely safe, saves lives and offers permanent protection for a variety of cancers.
2. The HPV Vaccine when compared to Aspirin, is much safer.
3. Rick Perry allowed an opt out for the Vaccine.

[240 is Back]

3. Rick Perry allowed an opt out for the Vaccine.

Completely removing the merits of the vaccination - there is no doubt that it violates the republican tenet of less govt involvement in our lives.

The fact a governor would use an executive order to force a bill thru both dems and repubs that would have denied it...
The fact it cost $350 a pop
The fact only 1 company offered this untested drug
The fact his chief of staff was a lobbyist for the company, got rich, and now runs his bid for president..

No matter how you feel about the hpv shot - You have to agree Perry DOES NOT fit the republican ideals of small govt, fighting corruption, less spending, etc.

[Hugo Chavez]

What are you even arguing about at this point?

I will summarize:

1. The HPV Vaccine is completely safe, saves lives and offers permanent protection for a variety of cancers.
2. The HPV Vaccine when compared to Aspirin, is much safer.
3. Rick Perry allowed an opt out for the Vaccine.

nice dodge... The issue was about Perry using an executive order to mandate a vaccine that does have side effects up to and including death.  You compared this to aspirin being dangerous... I'll ask again, what states require aspirin use lol...  You're the one that used it as an analogy, not me.  I addressed the opt out, we already knew about that.  It shouldn't be up to the taxpayer to go through an often complicated process to opt out.  It should be opt in on something like this, not opt out.  Opt outs are almost never given as an option, you have to know to ask for it, it's not usually advertised and most of the time you have to have specific reasons like religious shit to back up your opt out.

and why in the hell do you keep bringing up conspiracy theories for this, what does this have to do with conspiracy?