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Wiggs

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Will Mr. O ever be won again without the aide of a "guru"?
« on: September 23, 2011, 11:19:38 AM »
I think not...  :(
Sadly because of the complexity of chemical warfare, i dont see Mr. O or any IFBB show being won without a guru anymore.
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makaveli25

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Re: Will Mr. O ever be won again without the aide of a "guru"?
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2011, 11:20:20 AM »
Didn't yates do it on his own? Smart white man.
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Re: Will Mr. O ever be won again without the aide of a "guru"?
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2011, 11:21:26 AM »
who needs a guru when all the informations are on the internets (gh15 post history)
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Wiggs

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Re: Will Mr. O ever be won again without the aide of a "guru"?
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2011, 11:22:29 AM »
Quote from: makaveli25 on September 23, 2011, 11:20:20 AM
Didn't yates do it on his own? Smart white man.

Last Mr. O with no guru.
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Dr Dutch

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Re: Will Mr. O ever be won again without the aide of a "guru"?
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2011, 11:24:32 AM »
What is the difference between guru and drugs dealer in this context ?
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Re: Will Mr. O ever be won again without the aide of a "guru"?
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2011, 11:25:36 AM »
Quote from: makaveli25 on September 23, 2011, 11:20:20 AM
Didn't yates do it on his own? Smart white man.
He had a guru, called paul borrenson
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Re: Will Mr. O ever be won again without the aide of a "guru"?
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2011, 11:26:10 AM »
Dorian had a guru. Where do you think he learned to use te right stuff at right times etc etc..

Either he heard mixed opinions and did his own or he had a guru behind him.
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Re: Will Mr. O ever be won again without the aide of a "guru"?
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2011, 11:26:45 AM »
Quote from: dutchguy on September 23, 2011, 11:24:32 AM
What is the difference between guru and drugs dealer in this context ?

Drug dealer you buy your drus from and guru tells you how to use them...sometimes one in the same.
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Re: Will Mr. O ever be won again without the aide of a "guru"?
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2011, 11:28:31 AM »
Well lets say guru as in what one entails today..i.e. rambod, Farrah...
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Dr Dutch

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Re: Will Mr. O ever be won again without the aide of a "guru"?
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2011, 11:29:59 AM »
Quote from: Wiggs on September 23, 2011, 11:28:31 AM
Well lets say guru as in what one entails today..i.e. rambod, Farrah...
Guys that pretend training a certain way can make a big difference.... 8) 8)
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Re: Will Mr. O ever be won again without the aide of a "guru"?
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2011, 11:30:17 AM »
yes the white man doesnt need a guru
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Re: Will Mr. O ever be won again without the aide of a "guru"?
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2011, 11:31:00 AM »
Gurus should be honored on stage with the winner, its almost like they are the head coaches
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Re: Will Mr. O ever be won again without the aide of a "guru"?
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2011, 11:35:30 AM »
Quote from: Nails on September 23, 2011, 11:31:00 AM
Gurus should be honored on stage with the winner, its almost like they are the head coaches

Pretty much...
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Dr Dutch

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Re: Will Mr. O ever be won again without the aide of a "guru"?
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2011, 11:37:44 AM »
Quote from: Nails on September 23, 2011, 11:31:00 AM
Gurus should be honored on stage with the winner, its almost like they are the head coaches
Yeah and the head drug dealers as well, that would be funny... 8)
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Re: Will Mr. O ever be won again without the aide of a "guru"?
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2011, 11:42:36 AM »
my dad said "why don't they advertise hormones and sell them instead of bogus supplements? that way everybody wins, more gains for gymrats, more dollars for drug companies, more business for doctors and undertakers/funeral homes"
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Re: Will Mr. O ever be won again without the aide of a "guru"?
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2011, 12:05:03 PM »
Who was Arnold or Frank's "guru"??
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Re: Will Mr. O ever be won again without the aide of a "guru"?
« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2011, 12:09:22 PM »
Quote from: musclecenter on September 23, 2011, 12:05:03 PM
Who was Arnold or Frank's "guru"??

Weider ----> Arnold -----> Frank
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Re: Will Mr. O ever be won again without the aide of a "guru"?
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2011, 12:10:20 PM »
I thought all the advices were in the Arnold Encyclopedia?
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Dr Dutch

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Re: Will Mr. O ever be won again without the aide of a "guru"?
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2011, 12:43:42 PM »
Quote from: musclecenter on September 23, 2011, 12:05:03 PM
Who was Arnold or Frank's "guru"??
Arnold was his own guru....
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Re: Will Mr. O ever be won again without the aide of a "guru"?
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2011, 04:31:07 PM »
Quote from: tracks on September 23, 2011, 04:29:12 PM
Centopani said he did his own prep for his shows this year from memory

And gh has him pegged for the big one down the track so you never know...

Yeah but Even usually works with Oscar...good point though, forgot about him.
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Re: Will Mr. O ever be won again without the aide of a "guru"?
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2011, 04:48:02 PM »
not 100% sure about borrenson being yates guru,i used to think that but have seen people on here post that he wasnt,that being said either dorian or lee haney were the last win the o. without a guru.
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Re: Will Mr. O ever be won again without the aide of a "guru"?
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2011, 07:02:56 PM »
gurus are not needed, the top guys say they "work with" so-and-so in exchange for cash, gear, sponsorhsip. its basically like an endorsement deal. the bottom feeders get sucked into thinking said guru has some magic potion, end up shelling out a few grand and after a year or two and then after realizing their body hasnt changed they go back to doing things on their own and finally make some improvements.
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Re: Will Mr. O ever be won again without the aide of a "guru"?
« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2011, 07:06:17 PM »
Quote from: Wiggs on September 23, 2011, 11:19:38 AM
I think not...  :(
Sadly because of the complexity of chemical warfare, i dont see Mr. O or any IFBB show being won without a guru anymore.

Wiggs are you implying that some of the Mr. O competitors need to hire Vince Goodrum as their guru?  :P :P :-\ :-\
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Re: Will Mr. O ever be won again without the aide of a "guru"?
« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2011, 07:25:32 PM »
Quote from: Wiggs on September 23, 2011, 11:19:38 AM
I think not...  :(
Sadly because of the complexity of chemical warfare, i dont see Mr. O or any IFBB show being won without a guru anymore.

how much do these guys charge?

also, after you pay once why do you need him again? why not just follow the same protocol and tweak it as needed
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Re: Will Mr. O ever be won again without the aide of a "guru"?
« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2011, 02:09:38 AM »
Quote from: tbombz on September 23, 2011, 07:02:56 PM
gurus are not needed, the top guys say they "work with" so-and-so in exchange for cash, gear, sponsorhsip. its basically like an endorsement deal. the bottom feeders get sucked into thinking said guru has some magic potion, end up shelling out a few grand and after a year or two and then after realizing their body hasnt changed they go back to doing things on their own and finally make some improvements.

"gurus are not needed"...1000% Correct !!
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