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I don't use steroids or anything but this forum seems the most closely related. Finasteride for slowing down hairloss. Is it worth the risk? Side effects include impotence, penis shrinkage, gynecomastia, prostate cancer, and whatnot

BUT

supposedly these only happen in 2% of people using it

so theoretically there is a 98% chance not to get side effects and 90% chance of success with saving your hair

what does getbig say?

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Re: finasteride side effects: are they really 2% risk only or much higher?
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2011, 05:53:07 PM »
Do you know HOW high 2% is in medical studies??

RARE side effects are considered to be less than 1 in 100.000.

2 in 100, that's a lot.

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Re: finasteride side effects: are they really 2% risk only or much higher?
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2011, 12:21:56 AM »
Do you know HOW high 2% is in medical studies??



no i don't

thanks for the heads up

i will probably stick to minoxidil then  :-\

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Re: finasteride side effects: are they really 2% risk only or much higher?
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2011, 07:44:35 AM »
I like this question. Very easy google finasteride or proscar and side effects. You will find more than 1 forum dedicated to the side effects of it alone. And many men claiming like a steroid cycle being  shut down after. Ur inhibit ur dht which is a huge part of dick function and manly effects. And you stop it ull still be inhibited for long time. Some guys say they took it a decade ago and never recovered.

there's other routes.

topical spironlactone inhibits dht topicially and promates oestrogen topicailly whichh is needed for hair regrowrh

azelaic acid inhibits dht topicially again but by 100 percent.

zinc cream again like the above

emu oil crazy studies proven to re awaken dormant hair cells also blocks dht.

nizoral shampoo twice a week gets rid of sebum which builds in ur hair folical and head which ur body makes and creates dht itself.

those are some big players. Add any of those are ull be fine.

also herbal saw palmetto small doses for some dht

evening prime rose oil to.

I myself do the spironlactone emu oil and nizoral with saw palmetto for great success. Also sometimes break up a zinc or saw palmetto pill to mix with the emu oil for my head before shower or bed. Emu oil is one of the only oils that can naturally penetrate all layers of skin bringing whatever with it down as well so for instance zinc n saw palmetto. Amazing cream look up on it.

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Re: finasteride side effects: are they really 2% risk only or much higher?
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2011, 10:14:26 AM »
It's going to lower you natural testosterone production and on that basis I don't like it.

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Re: finasteride side effects: are they really 2% risk only or much higher?
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2011, 10:46:15 AM »
apparently studies showed it increased testostwrone. A reason being the conversion to dht was blocked so there is more testosterone left that is not being converted a few studies showed this. But obv test isn't the only mechanism for sexual function muscle growth and repair and manly side effects. Since you have little to no dht dht is a huge factor a androgen and is ur mainy hormone over testosterone for male effects like body hair growth masucline side effects and penis function. Even dht plays  a big role in muscle repair and muscle hardness. So you may have higher testoersone lvls if you got em checked but low dht. Kinda like taking hgh but taking a drug to block igf 1 conversion from the hgh lol

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Re: finasteride side effects: are they really 2% risk only or much higher?
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2011, 01:48:21 PM »
apparently studies showed it increased testostwrone. A reason being the conversion to dht was blocked so there is more testosterone left that is not being converted a few studies showed this. But obv test isn't the only mechanism for sexual function muscle growth and repair and manly side effects. Since you have little to no dht dht is a huge factor a androgen and is ur mainy hormone over testosterone for male effects like body hair growth masucline side effects and penis function. Even dht plays  a big role in muscle repair and muscle hardness. So you may have higher testoersone lvls if you got em checked but low dht. Kinda like taking hgh but taking a drug to block igf 1 conversion from the hgh lol

Yes, I don't think Arnold is right here. It inhibits Test from converting to DHT so you'll have more free Test. Also, it's original intent is to treat the prostrate. The lowered sex drive is due to the lowered DHT.

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Re: finasteride side effects: are they really 2% risk only or much higher?
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2011, 02:16:12 PM »
Let me rephrase.

Finasteride is an adrogen suppressor therefore it can hinder all things in-which androgens are responsible for.


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Re: finasteride side effects: are they really 2% risk only or much higher?
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2011, 03:31:16 PM »
I like this question. Very easy google finasteride or proscar and side effects. You will find more than 1 forum dedicated to the side effects of it alone. And many men claiming like a steroid cycle being  shut down after. Ur inhibit ur dht which is a huge part of dick function and manly effects. And you stop it ull still be inhibited for long time. Some guys say they took it a decade ago and never recovered.

there's other routes.

topical spironlactone inhibits dht topicially and promates oestrogen topicailly whichh is needed for hair regrowrh

azelaic acid inhibits dht topicially again but by 100 percent.

zinc cream again like the above

emu oil crazy studies proven to re awaken dormant hair cells also blocks dht.

nizoral shampoo twice a week gets rid of sebum which builds in ur hair folical and head which ur body makes and creates dht itself.

those are some big players. Add any of those are ull be fine.

also herbal saw palmetto small doses for some dht

evening prime rose oil to.

I myself do the spironlactone emu oil and nizoral with saw palmetto for great success. Also sometimes break up a zinc or saw palmetto pill to mix with the emu oil for my head before shower or bed. Emu oil is one of the only oils that can naturally penetrate all layers of skin bringing whatever with it down as well so for instance zinc n saw palmetto. Amazing cream look up on it.

a steroid warrior online posted about this, he checked his hormone levels and they were affected by topical spironolactone


the studies said it didnt give systemic effects, but supposedly the study was flawed because it was too short to take effect systemically

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Re: finasteride side effects: are they really 2% risk only or much higher?
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2011, 03:55:58 PM »
Let me rephrase.

Finasteride is an adrogen suppressor therefore it can hinder all things in-which androgens are responsible for.



Again, as I understand it, it inhibits the conversion of testosterone to DHT. I guess we can google it to be sure.