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Pigs get charged for the murder of Kelly Thomas....
« on: September 22, 2011, 04:15:20 PM »
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Fullerton police officers charged in death of Kelly Thomas have made their first court appearance. Cpl. Jay Cicinelli pleaded not guilty today to charges of involuntary manslaughter and use of excessive force. He was released on $25,000 bail and is due back in court November 4. Arraignment for Fullerton Officer Manuel Ramos was continued until Monday. He's being held on $1 million bail.

Thomas' father asked that bail not be reduced based on the "horrific way my son was murdered."

Both officers have been ordered by the court not to be in possession of firearms.

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SANTA ANA, Calif. (AP) Two police officers were charged Wednesday in the death of a mentally ill homeless man in Southern California who was beaten and repeatedly shocked with a stun gun during his arrest, authorities said.

Officer Manuel Ramos was charged with one count each of second-degree murder and involuntary manslaughter in the death of 37-year-old Kelly Thomas after a violent confrontation on July 5 with officers, Orange County District Attorney Tony Rackauckas said at a news conference.

Police Cpl. Jay Cicinelli was charged with one count each of involuntary manslaughter and excessive force, he said.

Rackauckas said a review of the evidence showed Thomas was acting ``in self-defense, in pain and in a state of panic.''

``His numerous pleas of `I'm sorry,' `I can't breathe,' `Help Dad' (were) all to no avail. Screams, loud screams, didn't help,'' the prosecutor said.

The prosecutor said police officers have a right to use reasonable force in the performance of a lawful duty but citizens have a right to self-defense, even against the police.

Lorie Fridell, an associate professor of criminology at the University of South Florida, said it is highly unusual for a police officer to be charged with murder.

``It is quite appropriate in such cases to hold officers to account,'' Fridell said. ``Often, however prosecutors will give officers the benefit of the doubt.''

Ron Thomas, Kelly Thomas' father, said he was pleased with the charges but still suffers every day as a result of his son's death.

``That's exactly what I hoped for,'' Ron Thomas said of the charges.. ``It makes me feel fantastic that this is happening, it's the justice we need.''

Bill Hadden, an attorney representing Cincinelli, didn't immediately return a call for comment. A call to a home number for Ramos rang unanswered.

Arraignment was scheduled later Wednesday.

Six officers were placed on paid administrative leave after the incident that occurred while police were investigating reported vehicle break-ins at a transit hub.

Thomas suffered severe head and neck injuries and was taken off life support five days later.

Thomas suffered from schizophrenia and lived on the streets even though he received support from family and friends.

Police said Thomas ran when officers tried to search his bag. A struggle followed when they tried to arrest him for investigation of possession of stolen goods.

Video from a bystander's cell phone taken from a distance showed parts of the bloody encounter in which Thomas can be heard screaming for his father.

Surveillance video aboard a bus showed agitated passengers telling the driver that officers beat and repeatedly used a stun gun during the arrest.

After the incident, the police chief went on medical leave and the embattled City Council hired a law enforcement expert to investigate Police Department practices.

Incensed community members held demonstrations and started an effort to recall the mayor and two councilmembers over the incident.

Ron Thomas, the father of the dead man, filed a claim seeking damages from the city.

He has previously released his son's medical records showing Thomas suffered broken bones in his face, choked on his own blood and was repeatedly shocked with two stun guns.

News reports show Cincinelli left the Los Angeles Police Department after losing an eye in 1996 while working as a probationary officer.

Cincinelli, who was 25 at the time, was shot during an on-duty gunfight during a traffic stop less than three weeks after graduating from the Police Academy, according to news accounts.









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Re: Pigs get charged for the murder of Kelly Thomas....
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2011, 04:18:26 PM »
Ramos made a show of putting on Latex gloves before ordering him to put his hands on his knees.

"He made two fists with his gloves on, two fists. He lifted his fists in front of Kelly Thomas so he could see them and he said, 'Now see my fists? They are getting ready to FUCK YOU UP,'" Rackauckas said. "That's when it went from a fairly routine investigation, a fairly routine police detention, to an impending beating by an angry police officer."



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Re: Pigs get charged for the murder of Kelly Thomas....
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2011, 04:19:12 PM »
1. these "dudes" are fuckchops and truely deserve the worst in life

2. where was Lady Gaga when this bullying was happening?

3. 2nd degree murder is a gross overcharging and will NEVER stick.

4. a fat mexican and the monster from The Goonies? Orange Counties finest  ::)

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Re: Pigs get charged for the murder of Kelly Thomas....
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2011, 04:19:33 PM »
Can you even imagine being a cop in So Cal?


There is much more to this story than is being published.

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Re: Pigs get charged for the murder of Kelly Thomas....
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2011, 04:21:26 PM »


There is much more to this story than is being published.

go on.......

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Re: Pigs get charged for the murder of Kelly Thomas....
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2011, 04:27:26 PM »
These guys are gonna get it in prison...i cant wait.
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Re: Pigs get charged for the murder of Kelly Thomas....
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2011, 04:29:09 PM »
so far news is kelly wasn't doing anything, they "GOT A CALL " ::)  that he was breaking into cars, which was not true not one car was broken into

After they killed him they found legal papers in his bagpack that belonged to a lawyer, the lawyer said that he threw those papers in the trash, and the lawyer said he felt like he was getting muscled by the detectives to say that kelly took them out of his car, Lawyer to this day says he tossed those papers in the trash.

the cop with the glass eyes was shot in the face Los Angeles a few years back when he work for LAPD as a rookie, he couldnt pass his physical so they let him go with like 80% of his pension if he retired at 60 or some shit like that, yet Orange County hired him, WHO Would hire a cop shot in the face  ??? this dude would have a serious hard-on for criminals and jay walkers




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Re: Pigs get charged for the murder of Kelly Thomas....
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2011, 04:30:07 PM »
These guys are gonna get it in prison...i cant wait.

yes, they will but it wont be for "murder."

my crystal ball sez somehing like 8 years for Assault Under Color of Authority....Involuntary Manslaughter maybe

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Re: Pigs get charged for the murder of Kelly Thomas....
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2011, 04:31:24 PM »
These two policemen look a bit deranged.

Why did they feel the need to have to do this?

They could easily have handled it in a better way than to beat someone to a pulp.

Just put handcuffs on the man.

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Re: Pigs get charged for the murder of Kelly Thomas....
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2011, 04:49:53 PM »
"That's exactly what I hoped for,'' Ron Thomas said of the charges. "It makes me feel fantastic that this is happening, it's the justice we need.''

"Kelly Thomas suffered from schizophrenia and lived on the streets even though he received support from family and friends."

I'm not saying the police didn't do anything wrong here, but where in the hell were the family before all of this? I mean, your 37 year old son lives on the streets, is obviously mentally handicapped to some degree, and you're okay with giving him some "support"?

Something's not kosher here.....