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[Vince G, CSN MFT]

 

[garebear]

Nice read here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_performance-enhancing_drugs_in_sport

Texts going back to antiquity suggest that men have always tried to work harder or at least suffer less as they were doing so. When the fittest of a nation were selected as athletes or combatants, they were fed diets and given treatments considered beneficial. For instance, Scandinavian mythology says Berserkers could drink a mixture called "butotens", perhaps prepared from the Amanita muscaria mushroom, to increase their physical power a dozen times at the risk of insanity.[5] In more recent times, the German missionary and doctor Albert Schweitzer wrote of Gabon in the early 19th century: "The people of the country can, having eaten certain leaves or roots, toil [pagayer] vigorously all day without feeling hungry, thirsty or tired and all the time showing a happiness and gaiety."[6]

A participant in an endurance walking race in Britain, Abraham Wood, said in 1807 that he had used laudanum, or opium, to keep him awake for 24 hours while competing against Robert Barclay Allardyce.[7] By April 1877, walking races had stretched to 500 miles and the following year, also at the Agricultural Hall in Islington, London, to 520 miles. The Illustrated London News chided:
It may be an advantage to know that a man can travel 520 miles in 138 hours, and manage to live through a week with an infinitesimal amount of rest, though we fail to perceive that anyone could possibly be placed in a position where his ability in this respect would be of any use to him [and] what is to be gained by a constant repetition of the fact.[8]

You sound a wee bit rabid on the subject.

[DK II]

You sound a wee bit rabid on the subject.

LOL, don't know, have always been interested in the history and usage of drugs and medicine.

Basically EVERYONE is doping, and if it's the coffee in the morning or the glass of wine to relax before bed. Drug usage and restriction is also in larger terms a cultural and political thing, some things are good to go in some cultures and a big taboo in others.

Somehow this whole "anti-doping" thing has become big with modern sports after the 1960s, it will vanish again some day.

Also "natural" bodybuilding is fairly new.

[garebear]

Steroids et al. don't bother me perse. ESPECIALLY in bodybuilding. In fact, it seems like that's where they belong the most.

It does piss me off when people lie about PEDs. Barry Bonds, for instance, I find especially irritating. Hank Aaron didn't have the same advantages. It's fine if that's what Bonds wants to do, but don't be a weasel and lie about it. The records are not really comparable. That's not to say that new records can't be established, but let's just be honest about what's happening.

As for legality in general, I think steroids (and related substances) should be 100 percent legal to private citizens. Obviously the risk, at least when used responsibly, has been way overblown. Arnold admitted to using them and he is old enough to collect social security.

I'm not sure how legal HRT is now, but I hope that when I am old enough to need it, it is OTC. I will definitely use it, if possible. I would like to see it available for my dad now, if it would benefit him.

[DK II]

Steroids et al. don't bother me perse. ESPECIALLY in bodybuilding. In fact, it seems like that's where they belong the most.

It does piss me off when people lie about PEDs. Barry Bonds, for instance, I find especially irritating. Hank Aaron didn't have the same advantages. It's fine if that's what Bonds wants to do, but don't be a weasel and lie about it. The records are not really comparable. That's not to say that new records can't be established, but let's just be honest about what's happening.

As for legality in general, I think steroids (and related substances) should be 100 percent legal to private citizens. Obviously the risk, at least when used responsibly, has been way overblown. Arnold admitted to using them and he is old enough to collect social security.

I'm not sure how legal HRT is now, but I hope that when I am old enough to need it, it is OTC. I will definitely use it, if possible. I would like to see it available for my dad now, if it would benefit him.

Totally agree with this, and, as i have stated before: Any 12 year old girl can go on hormones for the major part of her life, with a brief interlude in her 30s to get kids, but as a male it's impossible.

[Sherief Shalaby]

offcourse. but we have better supplements and food too.

+ better machines and other gym facilities...