Author Topic: Cutting down in your 50s- vs just going for it. (Read 8005 times)

njflex · « **Reply #50 on:** July 06, 2012, 07:22:25 PM »

Quote from: intenceman on July 06, 2012, 07:11:34 PM

. Off for 4 months.

Anyway, back to the point- great feedback- I like the go for it, but thoughtful approach. I haven't run anything in 4 months, but once I do, it would be something like test/equipoise 350/300 for the first run, just to get in better shape, then a more hardcore bulk cycle 2 gr total- test, deca, anadrol, cruise for 8 weeks on HRT and PCT then a 2 gram total cutting cycle - test, anavar, tren, eq. I think all that with a strict high protein - carb cycling diet combined with some hard ass training would put me decent shape by next summer. Any tweaks?

good wheels ,,,

bighead · « **Reply #51 on:** July 06, 2012, 07:27:54 PM »

man I would be carefull where you take these pics in public..did you inform the neighbourhood your a sexual predator? lol..

njflex · « **Reply #52 on:** July 06, 2012, 07:31:49 PM »

Quote from: bighead on July 06, 2012, 07:27:54 PM

man I would be carefull where you take these pics in public..did you inform the neighbourhood your a sexual predator? lol..

well if he had a piece of candy or icecream cone in hand then maybe,,

Viking11 · « **Reply #53 on:** July 06, 2012, 07:36:23 PM »

Was that too immodest? So hard to take a decent leg pic!

no one · « **Reply #54 on:** July 08, 2012, 01:49:55 PM »

Quote from: intenceman on July 06, 2012, 07:11:34 PM

. Off for 4 months.

Anyway, back to the point- great feedback- I like the go for it, but thoughtful approach. I haven't run anything in 4 months, but once I do, it would be something like test/equipoise 350/300 for the first run, just to get in better shape, then a more hardcore bulk cycle 2 gr total- test, deca, anadrol, cruise for 8 weeks on HRT and PCT then a 2 gram total cutting cycle - test, anavar, tren, eq. I think all that with a strict high protein - carb cycling diet combined with some hard ass training would put me decent shape by next summer. Any tweaks?

tweaks? ya- throw the whole fucking plan in the garbage.

this whole post make absolutely no sense to me. start at 600. jump 3.5x time to 2G go off for 8 weeks. then jump to 2G again. and in there manage to use every single compound you can get your hands on it seems.

your over 50, right? you've been doing this (using anabolics) a long time i presume, correct?

what test works best for you- ie what ester (ie my body prefers prop or sustanon- i say prefer as i hold less water on these compounds). take the ester and run that shit year round. period. run it at the same dose your going to run it in your heavy cycle. me, i dont see the need to use more than 500-700mg a week of test in my runs. next- what compounds do you react best to? eq? tren? winny? what the fuck is this 20 compound run for? take the compounds your body responds best to and add those in with the test. then, pick a dose ceiling and run it year round. why the up down up down up down., what a fucking waste.

you'll get better results running the compounds your body responds best to running them year round at say 1/2 the dose of the 2 g mark with a little gh then you will putting your body through all that up down up down up down cycle pct up down bullshit. forget this whole diet at this time of year bullshit too- carb cycle in spring , bulking in fall blah blah blah- the 80's called the want their diet back. give your body the cals it needs to grow lean tissue every day. do a little cardio to keep lean. thats it. what the fuck is it with all the unnecessary rocket science?

its easier on your body, less complicated and the gains will be more solid imo.

good luck.

no one · « **Reply #55 on:** July 08, 2012, 02:11:03 PM »

btw the value of that post is that it's a template you can use to look great for the rest of your life- day in and day out, not just for a few weeks of the year and then end up back at square one.

arce1988 · « **Reply #56 on:** July 08, 2012, 02:41:23 PM »

go for it

Nomad · « **Reply #57 on:** July 08, 2012, 04:39:47 PM »

Quote from: Groink on July 06, 2012, 12:01:51 AM

I just turned 47 last week, and have no intentions of slowing down. I don't bang out 4-6 reps bone crushing sets like i used to...but i don't have to....years of doing that have given me thickness that never seems to go away. Now it's 12-8 reps, just as intense, but with a different goal..it's all bout refinement...like no one said. i look better now than I did at 30.

still run a measly 350 mgs of tren a week, period. thinking of throwing some test prop in the mix.

what the fuck China has to do with my physique, and the whopping 5 hours a week i'm at the gym, i guess only YAGR knows.

bullshit

Quote

epic gh bloatface of peace.

jk bro, you look late 30s at best, the drugs are doing miracles for your aging.

wes · « **Reply #58 on:** July 08, 2012, 04:41:26 PM »

Quote from: no one on July 08, 2012, 01:49:55 PM

tweaks? ya- throw the whole fucking plan in the garbage.

LOL

no one · « **Reply #59 on:** July 08, 2012, 04:49:42 PM »

Quote from: wes on July 08, 2012, 04:41:26 PM

LOL

lol in my haste to help someone I sometimes get a little over passionate.

was at the gym the other day- there was this 13 year old or so kid there doing seated chest press. had the seat way down so the whole movement he's pushing w his delts. I walked by him and didn't say anything, got a drink out of the water fountain came back and said 'get up'. lol he looks at me and jumps out of the machine looking at me like he doesn't know what's going on. I say 'raise the seat up. handles level with your lower chest. all your doing is working your delts' and walked away. poor kid I think I scared the shit out of him. but my heart was in the right place.

ChristopherA · « **Reply #60 on:** July 08, 2012, 05:03:11 PM »

Quote from: no one on July 08, 2012, 04:49:42 PM

lol in my haste to help someone I sometimes get a little over passionate.

was at the gym the other day- there was this 13 year old or so kid there doing seated chest press. had the seat way down so the whole movement he's pushing w his delts. I walked by him and didn't say anything, got a drink out of the water fountain came back and said 'get up'. lol he looks at me and jumps out of the machine looking at me like he doesn't know what's going on. I say 'raise the seat up. handles level with your lower chest. all your doing is working your delts' and walked away. poor kid I think I scared the shit out of him. but my heart was in the right place.

LMFAO!!

wes · « **Reply #61 on:** July 08, 2012, 06:10:33 PM »

Quote from: no one on July 08, 2012, 04:49:42 PM

lol in my haste to help someone I sometimes get a little over passionate.

was at the gym the other day- there was this 13 year old or so kid there doing seated chest press. had the seat way down so the whole movement he's pushing w his delts. I walked by him and didn't say anything, got a drink out of the water fountain came back and said 'get up'. lol he looks at me and jumps out of the machine looking at me like he doesn't know what's going on. I say 'raise the seat up. handles level with your lower chest. all your doing is working your delts' and walked away. poor kid I think I scared the shit out of him. but my heart was in the right place.

Kids probably gonna` be traumatized for life,but he`ll have a thick set of pecs!!

War-Horse · « **Reply #62 on:** July 08, 2012, 06:34:20 PM »

47 yrs. The joints hurt from powerlifting/bodybuilding. Got the mass but not the cuts. Won titles as a teen, in my 20's and 30's....drug free.
But now i cant cut w/out losing alot of muscle, tried all kinds of plans over 10 yrs.
Decided to use some gear to help. low dose test enth 250mg with tren enth 150mg a week....3 weeks in on a 16 week cycle. Im not getting flat and stringy as i diet now and the pump is crazy even on low carbs. Im sold, it was the right time for me

Viking11 · « **Reply #63 on:** July 08, 2012, 07:22:28 PM »

Quote from: War-Horse on July 08, 2012, 06:34:20 PM

47 yrs. The joints hurt from powerlifting/bodybuilding. Got the mass but not the cuts. Won titles as a teen, in my 20's and 30's....drug free.
But now i cant cut w/out losing alot of muscle, tried all kinds of plans over 10 yrs.
Decided to use some gear to help. low dose test enth 250mg with tren enth 150mg a week....3 weeks in on a 16 week cycle. Im not getting flat and stringy as i diet now and the pump is crazy even on low carbs. Im sold, it was the right time for me

Deca really helps with the joint issues. I know that not being on it, my shoulder bothers me exponentially more. I'd add that if you can.

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #64 on:** July 08, 2012, 10:08:13 PM »

Quote from: Your Average GymRat on July 05, 2012, 04:49:37 PM

This is America today: 50+ adolescents who refuse to grow up.

....and that's why we'll out live the ones who act their age. I always laugh at people when they tell me to "act your age". WTF is that supposed to mean?

da_vinci · « **Reply #65 on:** July 09, 2012, 01:48:28 AM »

Quote from: The Coach on July 08, 2012, 10:08:13 PM

....and that's why we'll out live the ones who act their age. I always laugh at people when they tell me to "act your age". WTF is that supposed to mean?

Truth.

wes · « **Reply #66 on:** July 09, 2012, 03:08:29 AM »

Quote from: The Coach on July 08, 2012, 10:08:13 PM

....and that's why we'll out live the ones who act their age. I always laugh at people when they tell me to "act your age". WTF is that supposed to mean?

THIS

phreak · « **Reply #67 on:** July 09, 2012, 04:33:00 AM »

Quote from: The Coach on July 08, 2012, 10:08:13 PM

....and that's why we'll out live the ones who act their age.

This. I'm going to be outLIVING my peers. I have no interest in simply outEXISTING them.

RS · « **Reply #68 on:** July 09, 2012, 05:57:53 AM »

Quote from: intenceman on July 04, 2012, 02:44:20 PM

If you're under 40 this thread is probably irrelevant and won't resonate with you, but for anyone who had competed, juiced or just trained with suicidal intensity in the past. If you had ok potential, a lot of strength and drive even while off, but could possibly blow up and do some interesting things if you "upped the dose" or started slamming down a gram or two a day of various goodies. Would you? Not interested in the it will shorten your life/ yeah it could but you lose the worst years. At 52, every year pretty much sucks worse than the one before. 2000 was the peak. Looking at having some fun before the whole shitty thing goes South. Some will get this, some won't, I fully realize.

intenceman - I say go for it.

I have a personal experience that relates to this interesting scenario you are spelling out here. I'm 44 and have gone under the knife 11 times in the last 12 years for shoulder and knee surgeries - most recently 2 shoulder surgeries in 13 months - those 2 shoulder surgeries happened when I was 42-43. Anyway my recovery was not going so well so I suggested to the dr that maybe I have low test or something. I actually did and I went on same of that shity androgel - and I stacked it with some anavar (some UGL product). Now keep in mind I've lifted since I was 14 and used to compete in my late teens and early 20's but never touched any juice. Well with the addition of the var and the androgel I gained about 25 lbs of muscle and am seeing definition I never saw while dieting naturally for competitions. After this I started thinking along the same lines you are - even thinking if I would have gone on back in the day I may not have even ended up with these injuries to my knee and shoulder and I may have been able to avoid all the surgeries (all the result of judo injuries that occurred in my 30's- judo is a young mans sport - ) all together - back then I was ignorant - I thought I could train clean and still do it all just like the guys who had some help.

So now I'm thinking of the same options you are outlining here. I want to go on something serious - test E / prop /deca stack and see what happens with the limited training I can still do - I'm ready for a knee replacement and I have some restriction with the active ROM in the repaired shoulder. I say go for it -- like other have said here - in your 60's your body really goes down hill and then you are really out of time. I hate feeling like I'm out of time but I have been feeling like that lately with many things.

Something else that really urks me. Why the fu&* does the government give a sh^& who takes steroids and why do people just those who decide to take? All we are doing is giving our bodied more of what we naturally produce. Currently I'm going to a Dr to try to get test injections and he's giving me a hard time with it. While on 4 pumps a day of the andro 1.62 my test is only @ 167 as of 3 weeks ago. He says TRT is highly monitored by the gov't especially in NJ. I'm just about to say f--it with trying to get the pharm grade stuff and just go hit an UGL for what I need.

Let me know how it goes and what you decide. I think there are a lot of people here in the same boat.

da_vinci · « **Reply #69 on:** July 12, 2012, 04:35:58 AM »

AN update pic of Strydom:

beast mode.

njflex · « **Reply #70 on:** July 12, 2012, 06:46:11 AM »

Quote from: da_vinci on July 12, 2012, 04:35:58 AM

AN update pic of Strydom:

beast mode.

DUDE IS UNREAL...LONG TIME

oldtimer1 · « **Reply #71 on:** July 12, 2012, 06:58:06 AM »

Lifting weight and doing cardio is important for health in you 50's.

What I normally see in the weight room is the pudgy bench guy who loves benches and curls. The guy who is still delusional about his physique being a permabulker who lifts heavy but couldn't run around a block without passing out. Then there's the guy that uses all types of drugs but somehow still manages to look like crap and no one would ever accuse him of even using steroids.

What a lot of guys forget and don't even realize they don't have is conditioning. You can have 400 horse power body but if you have a small gas tank you are going to gas. I use to box back in the day. It was always amusing when the muscle head came in and wanted to spar. Seeing the body beautiful in the ring with the string bean boxer was almost hard to watch his destruction.

michael arvilla · « **Reply #72 on:** July 12, 2012, 07:38:11 AM »

It's better to burn out than fade away