Why Ron Paul has a better chance to win against Obama.

[Fury]

Ron Paul proposes, among other things, cutting $1 trillion in spending and rolling back the regulations and disasters pushed by the Downgrade regime in order to fix our economy.

Downgrade has.......after two and a half years......proposes spending $500 billion on the same shit the first $800 billion went to. It didn't fix anything then and a smaller amount won't fix anything now.


There, I just summed up why Ron Paul should beat Downgrade in two sentences.

[Hugo Chavez]

IF PAUL WON THE NOMINATION.  He would be the only republican who could actually snag a significant portion of the leftwing progressive vote.  The republicans will vote for Paul over Obama.  If Paul is able to snag the anti-war and civil liberty vote from the left, it's done in the bank.  If Paul wins the nomination, he can publically move center to get those votes.  If you think he won't, he's already giving indications that he will.  He's already let people know that he won't go after ending programs people depend on.  That's a signal that he will move to capture the vote after the nomination.

[Fury]

IF PAUL WON THE NOMINATION.  He would be the only republican who could actually snag a significant portion of the leftwing progressive vote.  The republicans will vote for Paul over Obama.  If Paul is able to snag the anti-war and civil liberty vote from the left, it's done in the bank.  If Paul wins the nomination, he can publically move center to get those votes.  If you think he won't, he's already giving indications that he will.  He's already let people know that he won't go after ending programs people depend on.  That's a signal that he will move to capture the vote after the nomination.

The Republican doesn't need the leftwing progressive vote. They are insignifcant. The Repub nom needs the independents, which Paul will get.

Obama's numbers are abysmal with independents right now and that's what's going to cost him reelection.

[Hugo Chavez]

The Republican doesn't need the leftwing progressive vote. They are insignifcant. The Repub nom needs the independents, which Paul will get.

Obama's numbers are abysmal with independents right now and that's what's going to cost him reelection.

it doesn't hurt one bit to note that Ron Paul WILL snag many progressive anti-war and pro civil liberty votes where the other republican candidates won't in the general election...  I don't doubt one second this can become a close election come election day 2012...  Come the general election with what will be unleashed, don't take shit for granted, it can and will become a fight.  If Paul can score some on the left where the others could not, he's even better for the choice IMO...

[240 is Back]

NO republican is going to stay home and let obama win becuase they disagree with a lot of what ron paul says.
I highly doubt beach bum votes dem in 2012 because obama likes war more than ron paul.


but a SHITLOAD of libs and moderates will vote ron paul.  I know a lot of people who are liberals, and they LOVED ron paul in 08.

[Bindare_Dundat]

Ron Paul Will Beat Obama in 2012

Wow. Powerfull video. I wish I could download this into everyone`s brain.

[Bindare_Dundat]

If all things were equal and the media treated Paul as the serious contender his straw poll numbers (with voter support from both sides) show he deserves to be, he would very likely win the 2012 presidential election.  Even better, in a scenario where the number of Americans who actually show up and VOTE for Ron Paul compared to the number of Americans who SAY they would vote him is in a percentage range comparable to the average "actually do vote for" to "say will vote for" percentage range of top candidates over the last half dozen presidential elections, Ron Paul would likely win by a landslide.

However, for some reason or another, you still see so many Ron Paul "supporters" claim that they want him to win.....but won't vote for him because they don't believe he can win...which is likely due (at least in part) to the high number of "18-25 year age bracket" internet slackers who, as the first generation to be entrenched since birth in the "everyone gets a trophy, every child is a gifted genius, etc.," pussification of America, having never nurtured their inherent competitive drive are self-defeating by default and preach to each other their belief (thus making it a self-fulfilling prophecy) of how their vote doesn't matter and of how the Illuminati/NWO type "elite" run the world and decide Presidential election results, will convince themselves and anyone that will listen that Ron Paul can't win, so there's no reason to stop bitching about the government and playing video games to hike their jobless asses to the voting booth and actually register an official vote for Ron Paul as their choice for President.  

I'm still holding out hope that some kind of "word-of-mouth" movement gets going where people begin lose the idea that Ron Paul isn't electable and realize that the only reason Ron Paul is unelectable is because his supporters are the people most vocal about insisting it.  

I'd like to see Ron Paul win the GOP nomination, but if he doesn't and the GOP doesn't nominate a legitimate fiscal conservative in his place, I'm voting Ron Paul in 2012 even if I have to carve his name into the electronic voting machine's screen.

Well said.

[Soul Crusher]

after a lot of internal debate, I have decided to go for RP regardless of the situation.   

RP is closest to my belief system and who cares who else is running?   

[Hugo Chavez]

after a lot of internal debate, I have decided to go for RP regardless of the situation.   

RP is closest to my belief system and who cares who else is running?   

beautiful words to my ears... nothing else to say but Welcome Home...

[George Whorewell]

RP or Cain> Only guys I have any respect for.

Romney is nothing more than an establishment pick who will be less damaging than Osama, but just as inept. Perry is a hot head hick, but he will be better than Osama.

I don't care who the nominee is from the GOP. They can all win. Just imagine an actual presidential debate between Osama and Cain. Osama and Romney. Osama and Newt> Osama would get his ass handed to him. Obama can't run on his record folks. Sooner or later he has to explain himself; When the time comes, he will be toast. Mark my words.

[Dos Equis]

I don't care who the nominee is from the GOP. They can all win. Just imagine an actual presidential debate between Osama and Cain. Osama and Romney. Osama and Newt> Osama would get his ass handed to him. Obama can't run on his record folks. Sooner or later he has to explain himself; When the time comes, he will be toast. Mark my words.

I agree.  The only concern I have is whether Obama will actually be forced to answer tough questions about his record.  I hope there is a debate format (townhall?) that requires him to answer specific questions, with follow-up. 

[George Whorewell]

I agree.  The only concern I have is whether Obama will actually be forced to answer tough questions about his record.  I hope there is a debate format (townhall?) that requires him to answer specific questions, with follow-up. 

I hear ya-- But regardless; I think that you and I could formulate a brutally destructive anti Obama campaign ad that uses Obama's own words to bury himself. You have to believe the GOP has a whole highlight reel of damaging footage Obama can't run or hide from. Everything from him saying he would be a one termer if unemployment didn't shrink, the shovel ready jobs flub, the lie about Osamacare reducing costs and allowing everyone to keep their coverage, Not regretting the Solyndra loan, promising Gitmo would be closed, and on and on and on-- You could fill an encyclopedia with that shit. I mean, if any GOP candidate had the mindset to win the election, he could humiliate Osama without doing anything more than a video editing hit job.

[Dos Equis]

I hear ya-- But regardless; I think that you and I could formulate a brutally destructive anti Obama campaign ad that uses Obama's own words to bury himself. You have to believe the GOP has a whole highlight reel of damaging footage Obama can't run or hide from. Everything from him saying he would be a one termer if unemployment didn't shrink, the shovel ready jobs flub, the lie about Osamacare reducing costs and allowing everyone to keep their coverage, Not regretting the Solyndra loan, promising Gitmo would be closed, and on and on and on-- You could fill an encyclopedia with that shit. I mean, if any GOP candidate had the mindset to win the election, he could humiliate Osama without doing anything more than a video editing hit job.

True.  His own words and his record will be devastating. 

[Freeborn126]

The majority of people on this board, liberal and conservatives support Ron Paul.  More so than any other candidate.  So that says a lot right there.

[Dos Equis]

The majority of people on this board, liberal and conservatives support Ron Paul.  More so than any other candidate.  So that says a lot right there.

lol.  No it doesn't.  lol . . . .

[Bindare_Dundat]

lol.  No it doesn't.  lol . . . .

BB, always the stick in the mud.

[Dos Equis]

BB, always the stick in the mud.

Always mentioning the facts that CT nuts hate to deal with.    

[George Whorewell]

First off, the "liberals" that support Ron Paul on here will not vote for him- they are a bunch of flip flopping pussies with their noses up Barak Husseins ass.
Secondly, while most republicans here support Paul, he is unlikely to get the nomination so it is a moot point. I can tell you this much, if he does not get the nomination, there is no shot in hell I am voting for him as a third party candidate.

Barak Hussein Osama must be stopped. People cannot lose sight of that. I am not going to squander my vote and guarantee Osama is re-elected by voting for Paul as an independent.

[Dos Equis]

First off, the "liberals" that support Ron Paul on here will not vote for him- they are a bunch of flip flopping pussies with their noses up Barak Husseins ass.
Secondly, while most republicans here support Paul, he is unlikely to get the nomination so it is a moot point. I can tell you this much, if he does not get the nomination, there is no shot in hell I am voting for him as a third party candidate.

Barak Hussein Osama must be stopped. People cannot lose sight of that. I am not going to squander my vote and guarantee Osama is re-elected by voting for Paul as an independent.

Well said.